Not your typical build!~

Akiri - Raging Tide
Akiri - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Psychic
having watched my Korean roommate play her Venomancer and a couple trial characters, i noticed something...

despite having high damage, what would happen if she would critical hit the magic skills and start dosing double damage

after a lot of thought i have come up with this new build for Arcane Characters

^*^Critical Arcanist^*^

even:
0 Vit//Mag 2
1 Str//Dex 2

odd:
0 Vit//Mag 3
0 Str//Dex 2
=====^*^=====
equals:
0 Vit//Mag 5
1 Str//Dex 4
^*^

I love the idea, myself!! I partially got the idea from also remembering Ariel in Kingdom Hearts & Kingdom Hearts 2--> buffed up SPELLS!~

the focus is crit, not really eva, which is the lowest in the game (i think)

every 2 levels gives 4

every 10 levels gives 20 a.k.a the all~powerful +1 critical hit
[And that includes MAGIC!!]

plus the Soulforce being a ranged weapon would help with acc a smidge... give or take!~

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I love Mag Crit!! I ~<3 my Psychic!~ Critical Arcanist [DOUBLE THE FUN]
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  • Avaricious - Dreamweaver
    Avaricious - Dreamweaver Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It'd be nice, but you have to realize that compared to the Pure Arcane build, which is 9 Mag, 1 Str every 2 Levels, it's severely weakened. Every 10 levels of that is 20 Dex, 25 Mag, and 5 Str, right? The Pure Arcane Build would be 45 Mag, 5 Str. You're throwing away alot of firepower in the long run with this build.
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  • Akiri - Raging Tide
    Akiri - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    seriously,

    it doesn't take much to realize that some people are so hardcore on the play style of Purist, that they don't seem to realize that not everyone is going to play the same way

    ^*^

    hmm, what part of double damage, is there that isn't FUN!~ b:heart ;D

    ^*^

    i need an Archer or Assassin to explain this

    ^*^

    except, they don't get double crit on magic skills, since they have none *shrug*

    DOUBLE your pleasure DOUBLE your fun

    with Akiri's Critical Arcanist Psychic

    *just hear the Wrigely's tune in your head as you read this* ;P

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    b:sweat.......
    um....don't think it would work out too well....
    b:sweat

    but...who knows it might work.
    good luck end game though. b:chuckle
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  • Raviste - Heavens Tear
    Raviste - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If you're going to add all those dex, might as well go for a LA build. Why waste so much dex? The dex is not going to increase your crit rate by much, your magic attack will be weakened, and your physical defense will still be low.

    Also, archers do have magic skills--the skills with the lightnings. Archers, however, have a legitimate reason to go pure dex, since dex is the base of their damage. Why not just find +%crit ornaments instead of wasting precious points on a stat you don't need?
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  • Akiri - Raging Tide
    Akiri - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    with people assuming they know only 1 & only one way to play a game

    this is why i prefer individuality!~

    where's the FUN *?*

    a game isn't a game without FUN!~

    ^*^

    when i think of a mermaid, i envision a spell being buffed

    the only way to really get that effect is Dex

    hence,

    Critical Arcanist

    ^*^
    ~and after Kindergarten your mom might let you eat some milk & cookies if you take a nap... :P

    you remind me of a grade school kid who can only repeat one phrase

    guess someone needs to see the speech therapist

    so they learn to stop stuttering!~
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    might as well go light armor...
    your going to deal less damage which probably means your going to get hit more.
    b:shocked
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  • LillyLane - Sanctuary
    LillyLane - Sanctuary Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    many different ways to play the game, yes.
    However the builds most veterans suggest are proven to be winners.

    Personally i wouldnt go arcane build and put dex.
  • Xprestigex - Harshlands
    Xprestigex - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    whats the point of posting your build in the forums if u insult anyone who dosn't agree with you? you should just keep this build to youself if u are going to do that
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  • Hisuna - Sanctuary
    Hisuna - Sanctuary Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    whats the point of posting your build in the forums if u insult anyone who dosn't agree with you? you should just keep this build to youself if u are going to do that

    Agreed. It's not bad to be unique, and it's perfectly fine and acceptable to try out something new and see how it goes. However, you're not the first to test out experimental builds, and you are not above and beyond players who choose a proven build. The individuality you are rambling about is something I would rather find in a person than a build.

    Right now you appear to be a stereotypical brat who has decided what it wants and that means everyone should agree.

    I also have a sneaking feeling that we are all being trolled, but eh.
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  • Raviste - Heavens Tear
    Raviste - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Going by Akiri's logic, she must be a kindergartener.
    Have fun playing your "critical arcanist." Just please gtfo the forums if you get so defensive so easily. :)
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  • The_Forgoten - Lost City
    The_Forgoten - Lost City Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    having watched my Korean roommate play her Venomancer and a couple trial characters, i noticed something...

    despite having high damage, what would happen if she would critical hit the magic skills and start dosing double damage

    after a lot of thought i have come up with this new build for Arcane Characters

    ^*^Critical Arcanist^*^

    even:
    0 Vit//Mag 2
    1 Str//Dex 2

    odd:
    0 Vit//Mag 3
    0 Str//Dex 2
    =====^*^=====
    equals:
    0 Vit//Mag 5
    1 Str//Dex 4
    ^*^

    I love the idea, myself!! I partially got the idea from also remembering Ariel in Kingdom Hearts & Kingdom Hearts 2--> buffed up SPELLS!~

    the focus is crit, not really eva, which is the lowest in the game (i think)

    every 2 levels gives 4

    every 10 levels gives 20 a.k.a the all~powerful +1 critical hit
    [And that includes MAGIC!!]

    plus the Soulforce being a ranged weapon would help with acc a smidge... give or take!~

    ~i don't mind going out onto a limb here, that & i b:heart Mermaids!! ;D

    goodluckwiththat
  • Inxii - Heavens Tear
    Inxii - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If you're dead set on getting a higher crit rate, I'd suggest just going LA or using +dex/+crit% equips. Crits won't do you much good if you don't have the attack power to back it up.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If you want critical rate, just put 5 points into dex every level. You sure will be "unique".
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  • Kalorianna - Lost City
    Kalorianna - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lol you're the one who keeps repeating fun and individuality,
    but i agree that the pure arcane is better.
    9 mag 1 str every two lvls would tweak my buttons about equality,
    so i go by


    even:
    3 mag
    1 dex
    1 vit

    odd:
    3 mag
    1 dex
    1 str
  • Hyden_Brook - Heavens Tear
    Hyden_Brook - Heavens Tear Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    with people assuming they know only 1 & only one way to play a game

    this is why i prefer individuality!~

    where's the FUN *?*

    a game isn't a game without FUN!~

    ^*^

    when i think of a mermaid, i envision a spell being buffed

    the only way to really get that effect is Dex

    hence,

    Critical Arcanist

    ^*^
    ~and after Kindergarten your mom might let you eat some milk & cookies if you take a nap... :P

    you remind me of a grade school kid who can only repeat one phrase

    guess someone needs to see the speech therapist

    so they learn to stop stuttering!~

    Seriously, you sound like building sandcastles in the air.

    There are always break points for everything.

    You have mentioned of increasing critical for your psychic, but on the expense of lowering down your MAG and physical and magical def.

    Is it worth it to get one-shotted by mobs at your later levels?

    1. You might critical more often than others.
    2. Critical often enough on the boss and you will die often

    If you do happen to wipe the squad often on BH runs, rest assured that no one else is gonna ask you to be in their squad.

    Balance is about knowing your limits.
  • Akiri - Raging Tide
    Akiri - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    that a little thing called manufacturing exists,

    my build is to ensure the +crit!!

    the manufactured items are going to have +Mag

    and especially buffed rings

    when i find rings i like (3~star; 3 sockets) i'll refine those for Soulforce

    ^*^

    what i like about Psychic is that Pure build is thrown out the window for that little thing that they can be used in multiple ways

    unlike the other classes

    they are the most diverse, not in element, but in potential based on your playing style

    the nice thing having a high Soulforce completely changes the way you can play

    you can now have Dex and it not be weird, nyaah ;P

    so there!! ^*^

    glad & thankful i'm not forgetful :P

    SOULFORCE ALL THE WAY!!~
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  • Hyden_Brook - Heavens Tear
    Hyden_Brook - Heavens Tear Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    that a little thing called manufacturing exists,

    my build is to ensure the +crit!!

    the manufactured items are going to have +Mag

    and especially buffed rings

    when i find rings i like (3~star; 3 sockets) i'll refine those for Soulforce

    ^*^

    what i like about Psychic is that Pure build is thrown out the window for that little thing that they can be used in multiple ways

    unlike the other classes

    they are the most diverse, not in element, but in potential based on your playing style

    the nice thing having a high Soulforce completely changes the way you can play

    you can now have Dex and it not be weird, nyaah ;P

    so there!! ^*^

    glad & thankful i'm not forgetful :P

    SOULFORCE ALL THE WAY!!~

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    If it still doesn't get through to you, when you crit high and often, it will result in a squad wipe with players among your level range.

    With reputations of wiping squads from BH 29 onwards, you will be shunned at for later instances during higher levels.
  • Mistyjane - Lost City
    Mistyjane - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    May the Force be with you b:chuckle
  • Hyden_Brook - Heavens Tear
    Hyden_Brook - Heavens Tear Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    May the Force be with you b:chuckle

    I would say "rest in pieces on the plate" is more appropriate b:chuckle
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    @ Akiri...

    Oooh I love this, sounds perfectly doable, getting crit from stats and adding MAG in bonus. I know I'm going to try it: I just love it!

    @ general...

    I wonder tho, how the Tideborns having been out only 2 days, why everyone is so darn set that a pure MAG psychic is the only way to successful endgame. Are you talking from experience? That could hardly be the case... Mathematics or theories is NOT everything, and I don't think there's only one way to play a character.

    So instead of bashing the OP, why not encourage him/her to go further?

    I know I will.


    b:pleased
  • IDaun - Raging Tide
    IDaun - Raging Tide Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If you're planning on using stuff with added bonuses-- go +dex gear and do 3 magic a level. It's not that hard to find some gear with +dex in the AH-- I find Arcane gear with +str all the time.

    If you go looking for +magic, you're gonna fail. 5 magic every two levels=~12 below req at level 35, more in later levels (judging from the magic req of soulorbs at the blacksmith).

    Look for +crit and +dex gear. NOT +magic gear. Magic you need-- dex is just an option.

    Try the Skysunder Amulet and Demon Panther Ring if you are willing to fork out some money.
  • Organism - Lost City
    Organism - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    You're right, individuality is awesome!

    Your crits will be hitting the same as what your spells would hit had you gone pure arcane, AWESOME!

    Your def will be somewhat better wearing light armor, but in the end, you're still relying on crits to do your damage, which by 9x you'll have ~9% crit chance! That's 1/3rd what an archer has by endgame, so their crits will always be way higher, completely blowing your idea out of the water, BUT YOU'RE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LOVES TO BE DIFFERENT! GO AHEAD!

    If you weren't SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL, i'd mention maybe reading your skills and seeing how most all rely on your base magic attack, which comes from mag, not dex, BUT WHY SHOULD YOU HAVE TO READ! THE MAN CAN'T BRING YOU DOWNNNNNNN b:laugh

    At the end of the day, your invdividuality will likely find you sprawled on the ground, but maybe that's what you're going for anways! Some people just like the abuse. b:nosebleed
    @ Akiri...

    Oooh I love this, sounds perfectly doable, getting crit from stats and adding MAG in bonus. I know I'm going to try it: I just love it!

    @ general...

    I wonder tho, how the Tideborns having been out only 2 days, why everyone is so darn set that a pure MAG psychic is the only way to successful endgame. Are you talking from experience? That could hardly be the case... Mathematics or theories is NOT everything, and I don't think there's only one way to play a character.So instead of bashing the OP, why not encourage him/her to go further?

    I know I will.


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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Crit arcane would have to be 3dex 1 str 6 mag every 2 levels, which means 1 extra crit every 40 levels, so at level 80 you'd have a whopping 2% extra crit over a light build. The double damage on the crit would be far lower than the crit on a purist (though purist isn't neccessary).

    1: you sacrifice one benefit of a light build (pdef) to add 1/2 increase over the light build in crit, a whopping 6% additional at level 80 over arcane.

    So, stay squishy, hit weaker (greater than 6% weaker) and don't reap the benefits in survivability... Try again.
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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Crit arcane would have to be 3dex 1 str 6 mag every 2 levels, which means 1 extra crit every 40 levels, so at level 80 you'd have a whopping 2% extra crit over a light build. The double damage on the crit would be far lower than the crit on a purist (though purist isn't neccessary).

    1: you sacrifice one benefit of a light build (pdef) to add 1/2 increase over the light build in crit, a whopping 6% additional at level 80 over arcane.

    So, stay squishy, hit weaker (greater than 6% weaker) and don't reap the benefits in survivability... Try again.
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  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    this must be the worst build i've ever heard
    Aneurysmal said the most of it, no need to say more
  • Rainesierr - Lost City
    Rainesierr - Lost City Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    now, i think that this particular build wont work, but the OP brings up an interesting point about soulforce, which i think is based on lvl and refines? anyway theres a good deal of skills based on soulforce i think. so you could theoretically make a build based more on reflects and other soulforce bonuses. now, as to how this would work or what armor it would use i have no idea. also, whether this would fail as hard as a Vit HA Wiz that relies on emberstorm i dont know b:chuckle but its an idea xD and hey if those people that have money and time to oracle to 80 in two days they could probably afford some resets to **** with stats :P

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  • Kawakami - Dreamweaver
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Err, do you get soulforce from refined rings ? Refining rings only adds resistance, and since when do rings come with sockets ? Your build is only somewhat unique, but from what I've seen you mentioned you don't seem to have a lot of experience. Good luck with it, but don't act like you know it at all, a true master wouldn't claim mastery ( unless they need their ego massaged )

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Mathematics or theories is NOT everything, .[/COLOR]

    b:pleased

    b:sweat
    ......
    mathematics and theories be....everything....
    b:surrender
    this entire game be based on a series of mathematical algorithmic equations
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  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Crit arcane would have to be 3dex 1 str 6 mag every 2 levels, which means 1 extra crit every 40 levels, so at level 80 you'd have a whopping 2% extra crit over a light build. The double damage on the crit would be far lower than the crit on a purist (though purist isn't neccessary).

    1: you sacrifice one benefit of a light build (pdef) to add 1/2 increase over the light build in crit, a whopping 6% additional at level 80 over arcane.

    So, stay squishy, hit weaker (greater than 6% weaker) and don't reap the benefits in survivability... Try again.

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  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    hmmm... made it to level 20 so far, and have followed OP's build suggestion... really not so bad.

    Maths & theories being everything to certain peeps, there is also the player's gamestyle and well, so far, it works.

    Worse that can happen is I might have to restat a bit later on but so far so good :)

    And geez do i need sleep b:tired