Psychics Potential

gstatus00
gstatus00 Posts: 3 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Psychic
So I've been snooping around before update, and people are saying Psychics are going to be the new face of magic. Meaning clerics and wizs are outta the picture.

So now that update is out, and our new characters have come to play, what is your opinion?

Will Psychics dominate our former magic classes? Or will they be equal?
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  • Nexina - Lost City
    Nexina - Lost City Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    There is no way in Hell that Psychics will make the Cleric obsolete. >.>


    That being said, these new classes won't make or break the games' group dynamic, just add to it. They will be equal in the sense that they will add their own element to the game, without destroying the other classes' possible input into the group.
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  • gstatus00
    gstatus00 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Nexina - Lost City wrote: »
    There is no way in Hell that Psychics will make the Cleric obsolete. >.>


    That being said, these new classes won't make or break the games' group dynamic, just add to it. They will be equal in the sense that they will add their own element to the game, without destroying the other classes' possible input into the group.

    Good, because I hate it when games add new characters to game and the other characters become useless.

    I was doubting that Psychic would replace the Cleric, since Cleric is basically a squads only hope of survival, but the Wiz, I was thinking about it.

    I can't wait to come back from school, I wanna try the Psychic :)
  • Raminas - Raging Tide
    Raminas - Raging Tide Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    gstatus00 wrote: »
    Good, because I hate it when games add new characters to game and the other characters become useless.

    I was doubting that Psychic would replace the Cleric, since Cleric is basically a squads only hope of survival, but the Wiz, I was thinking about it.

    I can't wait to come back from school, I wanna try the Psychic :)

    Clerics will never EVER be obsolete but Wizard vs. Psy
    1. Psy's have fast casting time meaning a Wiz without Sutra is probably going to have to come up with new tactics against the Psy
    2. Psy's and Wizzies have EXCELLENT range making them and the archers are ranged beasts
    3. A cleric teamed up with a psychic= White Voodoo and high lvl Vanguard. Party is pretty much EXCELLENT
    4. The nuking of the Wizard+ Psy's easily known slowing skills = heaven for a party
    Hey that's me and what I think
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    wiz is the game glass canon no other class can out dmg a wiz if a wiz isnt the top dd then there is no point of being a wiz and the creater of this game or gms or w/e wouldnt do it since it would make faw ppl very angry

    i think psyc is gonna be a good dd + a decent healer + a decent buffer not a best dd + healer + buffer cuz that will be a bit 2 much dont you think
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/DarkSol01/Critproc.jpg


    dont think psyc will be able to do stuff like that
  • Fermirotica - Heavens Tear
    Fermirotica - Heavens Tear Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Psychic is a support / DPS class ... they can throw out some damage but its not the best.. they have some buffs and they can heal but this heal isn't the greatest..


    Also have some really great debuffs i'm interested to see how the HP charm debuff will effect TW :D
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  • Nexina - Lost City
    Nexina - Lost City Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I'm assuming that the venos' purge will be an overly used counter for the Psychic's hp debuff. And the hp buff for that matter.


    D:
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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Fermirotica - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Psychic is a support / DPS class ... they can throw out some damage but its not the best.. they have some buffs and they can heal but this heal isn't the greatest..


    Also have some really great debuffs i'm interested to see how the HP charm debuff will effect TW :D
    exactly b:thanks
  • JaneGray - Lost City
    JaneGray - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I really hope psychics aren't more powerful wizard wise, otherwise a lot of people would stop playing, including me.

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    Psychic comes out and is more powerful.

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  • Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear
    Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lol form what i see, it looks like the py have higher damage at low levels than wiz. not sure if the gap will be bridged at high levels.
  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    JaneGray - Lost City wrote: »
    I really hope psychics aren't more powerful wizard wise, otherwise a lot of people would stop playing, including me.

    <----Plays 3 months on wiz.

    Psychic comes out and is more powerful.

    <----WTF?

    u got nothing to worry about
  • Wokan - Harshlands
    Wokan - Harshlands Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I look forward to PvP :D. Psychics are proving to be good so far, very versatile in PvE and apparently PvP.
  • Xegeth - Dreamweaver
    Xegeth - Dreamweaver Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol form what i see, it looks like the py have higher damage at low levels than wiz. not sure if the gap will be bridged at high levels.

    Lol, because it is so hard to outdamage a wiz at lower lvls. x) Just look at the picture posted at the first page. b:laugh
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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Xegeth - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Lol, because it is so hard to outdamage a wiz at lower lvls. x) Just look at the picture posted at the first page. b:laugh
    yep even a veno at lower lvls hit more then wiz


    but a high lvl wiz thats diff :P like the pic i putedo n the first page that i took from the wiz section a high lvl wiz casting sage BID on group of ppl criting almost evrey1 killed almost evrey1 with 1 shot doing 14k 11k 10k crits i really really doubt a psyc will be able to do stuff like that
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Psychic is a magic buff/debuffer class. The most effective way of countering it is to have another on your side. This has always been the case. Have your debuffer debuff the enemy debuffer (love repetition) and then take him/her out.

    Enemy Psy: Casts debuff
    Friendly Psy: Cast buff to neutralize debuff
    and goes on and on and on

    b:victory

    I believe they have a skill to debuff charm ticks as well buff em up :D

    Well I would love the debuffs a Psy could provide during instances and TWs to make killing a lot easier or a lot harded in the latter.

    BTW are the attack and defense level buffs castable on others? I havent yet started playing so just wanted to know.
  • iam007
    iam007 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/DarkSol01/Critproc.jpg


    dont think psyc will be able to do stuff like that

    Lol, that is a sage BIDS crit from a rank 8 +10 weapon.. i'm pretty sure that a psychic with a similar weapon and a ulti proc crit could do similar damage
  • Nami - Raging Tide
    Nami - Raging Tide Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    what about skills?

    we have water and earth, its a long time i dont play
    you guys think we can max both? or should concetrate in one tipe? at least in the begining
  • FitHitDShan - Sanctuary
    FitHitDShan - Sanctuary Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Does psyhcic strike anyone else as the caster equivalent of a BM - good at everything and very flexible, but not likely to be the best for any single purpose?
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    FitHitDShan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Does psyhcic strike anyone else as the caster equivalent of a BM - good at everything and very flexible, but not likely to be the best for any single purpose?

    ...I just realized the pronunciation of your username.

    Just sayin'.
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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    iam007 wrote: »
    Lol, that is a sage BIDS crit from a rank 8 +10 weapon.. i'm pretty sure that a psychic with a similar weapon and a ulti proc crit could do similar damage

    doubt it. and he wouldnt be about to crit so many ppl at once and he wouldnt be able to crit for so high all of the group
  • Sakiara - Harshlands
    Sakiara - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    doubt it. and he wouldnt be about to crit so many ppl at once and he wouldnt be able to crit for so high all of the group

    lol, how can u say that already? u don't even know the sage/demon skills for psychics yet...or the rank8 weapon. Imo psychics seem pretty strong, but i gotta agree with u that it wouldn't make sense if the psy's dmg would be higher than the mage's...but u never know what pwi comes up with :P b:surrender
  • Lunarii - Lost City
    Lunarii - Lost City Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I feel like psychics are a mix of all 3 mage types.
    It's got water and earth spells from the wizards and healing from clerics. Then there's the debuffs and that one reflect damage thing from venos...
    It's depressing :(
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lunarii - Lost City wrote: »
    I feel like psychics are a mix of all 3 mage types.
    It's got water and earth spells from the wizards and healing from clerics. Then there's the debuffs and that one reflect damage thing from venos...
    It's depressing :(

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    A "Jack of all Trades", but a Master of none.

    shhh you going to upset teh BM community.
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    they be masters of stuns me suppose.
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  • Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear
    Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lunarii - Lost City wrote: »
    I feel like psychics are a mix of all 3 mage types.
    It's got water and earth spells from the wizards and healing from clerics. Then there's the debuffs and that one reflect damage thing from venos...
    It's depressing :(

    Not really, I think it's a good way to make things balanced. So far, each class has one big thing it does for the most part. In general, Barbs are tanks, Wizards and Archers deal damage, Clerics heal, Venos lure and deal damage, and Blademasters deal damage and do some tanking. The Psychic, though, does not seem to specialize in anything, so it cannot really replace a class but can help overcome some shortcoming in a party. For example, if your main DD is a bit low level-wise, a good psychic can help balance the party. Or if your cleric keeps getting hit with AOE's the psychic can help the cleric as necessary instead of having a Wizard stop dd-ing to help the cleric (This has happened to me quite a bit).
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    shhh you going to upset teh BM community.
    b:quiet
    jk jk
    they be masters of stuns me suppose.
    ^.^

    Hehe, I suppose. The one combo I'm really looking forward to in TW later on is the Psychic/Wizard duo.

    Psychic debuffs opponent and buffs himself for attack level and whatnot, then DD's.

    Wizard Undines and Sutras/Blade Tempest/whatevers.

    b:sin

    I say Wizards shouldn't be afraid of being replaced by the Psychics, but rather seek them out, team up with them, and absolutely RAEPFACE!!
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  • Exsaga - Lost City
    Exsaga - Lost City Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Physics are really support spells to decrease bosses speed, defense, hp, and so on, they are not DD's they are only supporters
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Exsaga - Lost City wrote: »
    Physics are really support spells to decrease bosses speed, defense, hp, and so on, they are not DD's they are only supporters

    I wouldn't say ONLY...I mean, that Attack Level Buff is pretty sweet, and will probably put their damage fairly high up there.

    Not to mention their SoulForce, which grows higher with refining gear...so you can bet those who can afford it will be a fairly good mix of Healer/DD/Debuffer.

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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Sakiara - Harshlands wrote: »
    lol, how can u say that already? u don't even know the sage/demon skills for psychics yet...or the rank8 weapon. Imo psychics seem pretty strong, but i gotta agree with u that it wouldn't make sense if the psy's dmg would be higher than the mage's...but u never know what pwi comes up with :P b:surrender

    im saying that cuz its just un real for them to have more dmg then wiz if pwi will really do that its gonna make so many ppl very angry and im sure they dont want that a char that can debuff with stuff like reflecting dmg add attk lvl add deff lvl heal w/e and also do the best dmg ingame? thats unreal so im posstive that wiz will stay #1 dmg wise
  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    +50 attack level (so the maxed buff gives I believe) is no laughing matter :S

    I'm just speculating but i'm going psychic will be better than wiz single target DD but Wizzies win for AoE DD since their dragon breath doesn't go down.
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