Big chicken pet

Each FB dungeon has a drunk swordsman guy at the start, who will, in exchange for wine, kill off most of the monsters inside the dungeon. This, obviously, makes the run easier for you.

The wine is crafted from wood, coal, steel etc. at a guy in Arch - the exact materials, and the number of wines you need, depend on the level of the dungeon.

As Tweakz says, this is a HUGE waste of materials for FB59 and below - it's a huge relief in FB69 (which is far far too crowded to be sane, and even if you don't wine it you can't get the quest-monsters in a single run-through)

Personally, I'd say 79 shouldn't be wined either - there's not that many mobs - but they are irritating archers so you may want to.

Can't comment on 89 and above, yet. But I think it's worth running each dungeon unwined at least once.



And yeah - the chicken is probably a sower of the flame. Although there are a couple of variants in the database.

And for not being able to find the pet - you can rename your pet (with a collar, bought in Archosaur for 10k, don't be ripped off by unscrupulous catshops!) - take it to a pet tamer and you can give your pet any name you like (well, any name 8 or fewer letters long)

FB59 bounty hunting.
The first two mobs are unavoidable, the second two you CAN avoid, but it's safer to just take them out. The next two you have to take out.
Then you need to take out the archer - you can skip the other two.

Now you're at the hub. You take out the unavoidable one there.

Worst case seems to be the water route. Need to take out two and at least one wanderer at the entrance, safer to take out all four.
Then two wanderers, usually take those out too.
Cactus and two undines are in the way - need to take out two, usually take out all three.

The next room you can cross without any killing, though if I've got squishies with me I usually take out the cactus and the turtle.

Four wanderers at the token-lake, you can skip them all - it's often as easy to kill some of them though.

Then two pairs of antelope - you CAN skip one pair, but I don't recommend trying.

And finally the boss.


A wined run you still have one pair of antelope, two wanderers round the token-lake and two at the start room.

There's really not much in it. Fire has even fewer monsters.

I've only been on one BH59 that was wined. Most FB59s I've been on have been wined, but I'm willing to do them either way (some people don't think unwined FB59s are worth the time.)

Some people are dumb. Whether that's the people that only run unwined things, or the people like me that happily run FB's/BH's unwined is up to you to decide. The time an unwined run of anything takes is significantly exaggerated though.

The other day I was running 89 for Phlebo. I ended up timing my run off of my blessings expiration timer. It took me 52 minutes to reach Phlebo solo, including stopping off at TYS for some free loot. A full squad could have done it in 20 minutes easily, or just under 9 minutes if time taken would scale down by a simple 52/6. The whole thing including Phlebo took about an hour and 10 minutes (Phlebo is a really slow kill for me). What's funny is, a friend of mine wanted Phlebo too but refused to help on the clear unless it was unwined. It sucks for him that I forgot to tell him when I got to Phlebo until it had 5% hp left.

Rainbowvidel - Sanctuary wrote: »

Perhaps the squad is only interested in getting to the bosses for a quick bounty hunter or two. Ever thought of that? Oh wait.... obviously not.

Tweakz already said it but when using wine there's additional time costs to take into consideration. There's finding wine mats for sale, dealing with people paying, deciding who's going to make wines, and so on... it can basically be summed up as the time it takes to make the coin to pay your share or the time it takes to farm the mats to pay your share (and with tokens, even at 25k each, you can't really go the mat route for 89 without paying more). Most squads won't do it but it's really not any additional time to just clear rather than wine, and it's certainly more cost effective.

Take my previous example of Eden, I picked up 400k in drops from the clear. If a squad would have cleared it would have meant 9 minutes longer to pick up a little more exp and get about 62k more coin each. Compared with a standard wine share of around 85k and not getting any coin drops. You're effectively paying 147k to save 9 minutes with a decent squad. Not very effective is it?

Oh, here's an example of what happened to me in a 69 BH once, I was level 85 at the time or so. The squad was looking for mats and couldn't find any, and was trying to decide who would buy wine, and so on. I ended up teleporting in at the start and clearing. By the time the squad was there to wine it I had cleared to Noxtouch, killed serpentrex, and had just about cleared to hornshell. Needless to say, I wasn't amused when I still had to pay my wine share. And that was me solo clearing, just think how much sooner we would have been done if the squad didn't bother with the wine.

This has gone SO off topic

But I'd say it takes more than 15 minutes for your average BH squad to actually get off their **** and form a squad and get to the dungeon.

By that time - I've cleared everything and am most of the way through the boss.

I love being able to do that. I'd love always having a full squad more (and the one time in... maybe ten? that I'm the last one invited to the squad it is indeed nice and smooth)

But yeah, I'd never wine 59. Clearing 69... I think that's sufficiently painful that I'd wine it. The lack of darkness stamps is probably the deciding factor, for me.

Seventy nine... Yeah. Archers aint fun.
I cleared it up to the first boss at level 65 though, so it's easily do-able. Slow, boring and not particularly rewarding, but do-able.

I ran with a full squad on a friends unwined full FB79. Only one of us was above 80, and it did indeed take hours.

But then, we killed everything because we wanted the monster count at the same time.

69 in 20 minutes? Well, you do have, what, twenty levels on me. So I won't say it's impossible.
I will say I sure as heck aint doing it for BH-pyro (I just skip that BH completely unless I can help a squad doing the full run)

And yes - 59 in 20 minutes is pretty easy. It's astounding! I've seen BMs actually pass up the opportunity to aggro stuff There's a whole pile of people learning to do it unwined a couple of times a day. Quianji + Drake fits nicely into a lunch break.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

69 in 20 minutes? Well, you do have, what, twenty levels on me. So I won't say it's impossible.
I will say I sure as heck aint doing it for BH-pyro (I just skip that BH completely unless I can help a squad doing the full run)

I've got 18 levels on you now, but I only had 6 or 8 on you at the time I was doing that for BH runs in 69.[/QUOTE]

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Has anyone figured out what controls the doors in 79? I've tried every combo I could with the guards at the beginning and it doesn't seem to make a different. It seems to be completely random. If you're lucky you'll get a relatively short path to the room with Linus. If you're unlucky you'll get a long, winding path which forces you through all those runewolfs and takes you on a tour of 3/4ths of the dungeon. You'll be wishing you'd wined it.

They're completely random. If you wine it you'll only be forced to kill one mob (two if you aggro the roamer) before the Hooli/Stygean door. That doesn't really leave any room for an npc based trigger for the doors. Given how few mobs actually have to be killed to reach the doors after Hooli and the towerling/linus door, I don't think there's a way to determine the state of the door (other than hooli/stygean opening eachothers, and the towerling opening one) that players can control.

on topic: the blue chicken is a roamer in the fire section, you can get to it pretty easily if you dont wine, just have to get past 6 exploding reverexes, they are in the entrance to the token area of fire, though if you are gonna get a chicken, the dodon laronist is all around a better pick, iirc they have better stats and higher initial skills, and there is one left even if you do wine, its behind the rock where the fire token is.

on the off-topic: on one of my last BH69 runs 5 of us where waiting for the barb to show up with the wine, by the time he got there, an infuriating hour and a half later, we had cleared the entire dungeon, taking the shortcut path, killed pyro, and had cleared all the mobs in the turtle room, so when he finally did show up and made sure everyone had the money for wine, we told him to keep it for his next run. the only reason we kept him at all was becuase we didnt have a proper tank for pole.

This is my Dodon laronist. comes at level 63. Bash level 3, Fireball level 3, and Howl level 2. Pretty decent pet, I love grinding with him! Named him RRROASTED lol

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