Claw/Bow Hybrid! Rate Por Favor!

WaffleChan - Sanctuary
WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Archer
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=90ebce903d6ef2a7 <-bow
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=52df68c8a1037dc6 <- claw

it doesnt lose much damage compared to other builds, and gives a little diversity to gameplay. whatcha think :P?
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  • IKnowRight - Harshlands
    IKnowRight - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Heavy armor..?
  • lawlage
    lawlage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Most Claw archers i know dont wear heavy armour, and instead use hh99 LA (Derp attack speed increase). But hey its PWi what can you expect.
  • IKnowRight - Harshlands
    IKnowRight - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    With my cape bonus and necklace i use the 70 mold fists to lol at some people.. other than that why do u want claws lol
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    those particular claws have a sharpened tooth arrow effect, AND -.1 interval. whats not to want about them?
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • IKnowRight - Harshlands
    IKnowRight - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    You are an idiot. If u want to use claws roll a bm. Whats the point of using an ea and make it use wr weapons when u have almost no skill to use.. Or u going to pk and grind using wingspan all the time?
  • Falcondance - Heavens Tear
    Falcondance - Heavens Tear Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    IKnowRight - Harshlands wrote: »
    You are an idiot. If u want to use claws roll a bm. Whats the point of using an ea and make it use wr weapons when u have almost no skill to use.. Or u going to pk and grind using wingspan all the time?

    Posting on alts so you can try to be anonymous is not cool. In addition, quit bashing the hell out of Waffle when something was actually done right with this build...

    That said, I would use reset notes to bring Vit and Mag down to 3 since you left them at base anyway Waffle, that's another 4 Dex. Also I would replace the TT90 gold legs with HA ones because they're the least impressive out of your TT90 gold set and you don't lose interval.
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I didnt use TT90 gold legs, those are 99 HA O_o;. but yeah thanks for reminding me about that restat.
    You are an idiot. If u want to use claws roll a bm. Whats the point of using an ea and make it use wr weapons when u have almost no skill to use.. Or u going to pk and grind using wingspan all the time?
    and you, senor smart aleck, is a BOW/CLAW HYBRID, you can use freakin bow for skills... the claws are just for fun, and could be helpful in some situations.

    BMs dont really use any fists skills anyways, theyre just aiming to get 3x spark all the time...
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • IKnowRight - Harshlands
    IKnowRight - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Falcondance - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Posting on alts so you can try to be anonymous is not cool. In addition, quit bashing the hell out of Waffle when something was actually done right with this build...

    My forum acc is banned lolz.. I need alt to post get it?
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I didnt use TT90 gold legs, those are 99 HA O_o;. but yeah thanks for reminding me about that restat.


    and you, senor smart aleck, is a BOW/CLAW HYBRID, you can use freakin bow for skills... the claws are just for fun, and could be helpful in some situations.

    BMs dont really use any fists skills anyways, theyre just aiming to get 3x spark all the time...

    Nice.. i will use a bow while wearing HA and i will do very very low dmg.. makes sense, i'am not a DD or anything lol
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    wrong. some fist BMs have enough dex for TT70 bows and can kill plenty well with them. if you need some range, demon spark + bow and youll hit pretty hard.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • The_Mexican - Dreamweaver
    The_Mexican - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    What the hell do you think you're doing, claw archer?!?! If archers actually had some fist skills to use then this would be ownage but of course they dont so a normal shot with a bow owns a normal hit with a fist. Going melee with archers defeats the purpose of an archer (ever thought of what knockback is used for?) I can kindof see how this might be OK at PvE but otherwise this is just plain stupid, if you want to use fists, make a BM.
  • IKnowRight - Harshlands
    IKnowRight - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Makes sense. All i need is get range, waste 3 sparks and i will hit hard.. and hey - inver will be ever so usefull vs wr's and wb's in pvp :) Fist then to dead RAWR
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    the mdef leaves much to be desired...i think it's better to go light armor for more -interval as well as more mdef. you're realistically not going to fight heavies with fists anyway imo

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  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lvl 60 fists + -.15 inveral in total + demon spark = more DD than a lvl 90 archer. Course once said archer hits 95 only a fist BM will out DD :p
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  • Kireina - Dreamweaver
    Kireina - Dreamweaver Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    those particular claws have a sharpened tooth arrow effect, AND -.1 interval. whats not to want about them?

    The decrease HP is less than Sharpened Tooth Arrow, so you'd still want a bow for that effect. Also, what's not to want is the lack of damage, as you're sticking to as little STR as needed to wear them.

    In this case hybrid means good at neither. Over a 100 points lacking in DEX for using a Bow and way too much DEX for Claw usage. I don't know why anyone would build their character with such endgame gear to be lacking in 2 departments and not particularly strong in any.

    @ PWcalc setups. Do you actually own that gear or is it all bs? Anyone can make a decent character in theory with a less powerful weapon if they slap Lunar glade +8 **** and whatnot on it. If you went that far then where is the -interval cape and tome? lol. And what you basically built is a BM without masteries and low STR.
    Ussichu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lvl 60 fists + -.15 inveral in total + demon spark = more DD than a lvl 90 archer. Course once said archer hits 95 only a fist BM will out DD :p

    A 90 Archer can get more interval than that lol. I've used the Lv60 Annhilator of Souls and the damage is too low compared to bow usage. Unless you're using a really ****ty bow.

    TT90 G Bracers + Assassin Armor and you're already at that interval. Slap on a CH:S or WatC and you have yourself -0.2 or -0.25 interval. Since we're using Demon skills, we slap Demon QS and Spark on there to finish the job. Unless you put +12 on that Lv60 fist I don't see it out-DDing an archer using it's native gear.
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Perma-demon sparking reduces the worry of having lower strength, as strength will make up a smaller factor in determining over-all damage. BM with demon mastery would have roughly 8.75 multiplier with 3 str per lvl, compared to an archer with 6.66 doing 1 str per lvl. For legging, go for TT99 LA and upgrade them to the expansion version that has another -.05 int bonus on them. Can pretty much skip worrying about slotting for HA TT99 with that alone.

    With just claws and TT99 LA gold, you'll have -.25, -.3 when leggings are upgraded. With just a -.05 add from rank chest armor, you just need either a lunar cape or a tome to hit perma-spark and max attacks with fists.

    Though it is funny seeing you have to deal with other archers that had your same lack of understanding of how fists, spark coverage, speed buffs, and -interval works, Waffle. b:laugh
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  • Kasumi - Dreamweaver
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    The_Mexican - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What the hell do you think you're doing, claw archer?!?! If archers actually had some fist skills to use then this would be ownage but of course they dont so a normal shot with a bow owns a normal hit with a fist. Going melee with archers defeats the purpose of an archer (ever thought of what knockback is used for?) I can kindof see how this might be OK at PvE but otherwise this is just plain stupid, if you want to use fists, make a BM.

    I restatted and got lunar claws for fun, have you ever seen a claw archer? I can kill 95+ barbs and bm faster than an archer can with bow. I hit 4/sec normally or 5/sec with spark, and I hit them about 800 per hit, or 2.5k hits with bm dragons b:chuckle. It adds up, you can kill anyone quickly, and if they run then i can just switch to bow and attack. of course i'll hit weaker now with bow but oh well, this game's a joke now, I'm just having fun b:pleased
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  • Shish - Lost City
    Shish - Lost City Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    err it's either an archer with a crappy crit rate, a bm with no skills and more dex than they need, or an assassin that's going to come out wednesday. eureka.
  • Chezedude - Dreamweaver
    Chezedude - Dreamweaver Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    got my +10 lunar claws. much better dps than any bow or sling even when i'm still missing 3 pieces of -interval gear.
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  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    And thus PWI finally learns the glory of the Lunar Claws. b:cute
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  • Sheets - Sanctuary
    Sheets - Sanctuary Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    IKnowRight - Harshlands wrote: »
    My forum acc is banned lolz.. I need alt to post get it?

    I am tired and i am semi..ah heck i am drunk b:shutup but isnt this against some rule or sumthin?

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  • BadBoii - Lost City
    BadBoii - Lost City Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=90ebce903d6ef2a7 <-bow
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=52df68c8a1037dc6 <- claw

    it doesnt lose much damage compared to other builds, and gives a little diversity to gameplay. whatcha think :P?

    Why dont ya just go for Min Str required for Claw = 146.

    U dont need to wear those Wrist or boots or pants or helmet...

    I would change those 3 n get LA armor. Specially 95 Boots so yar bow is not that weak. N ya get sum dex back that ur loosing for using those claws.
    I see this for a fun Build. But it probably fail.

    Just go LA.. For more mdef..
    Dude ya got no mdef at all.. Clerics/venos n wizards gonna **** ya..

    Keep yar addorns for pdef.
  • DaBoZZ - Lost City
    DaBoZZ - Lost City Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    use the event cape and the tome with interval - and get 2 pieces of hh 99 gold LA to get 5.0 attackrate with hellspark b:laugh


    if u have enough money get rank8 chest...if u have it u can get 5 attackrate without spark

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=7e2309db6c4d1f9c

    btw i was to lazy to refine the gear ^_^
  • screwnickslol
    screwnickslol Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    archers using claws/fists is old news... it's only truly useful in PK, but damn if it isnt strong as hell

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