Cleric DD/PVP

yeah what he said, but if it's pvp don't do full mag. go vit AA. i think thats like 3 vit 1 str 6 mag every 2 lvls. then cap at 50-100 vit. full mag just has too low hp and defences to pvp very well(though the dmg can be worth it).

wolfen42 wrote: »

Dude I'm totally new to PWI and even I know that FAC is the only way to go. Just refine for HP/Phy.D and your good. That much Vit would take away much needed Mag.A

Unless of course ur planning on being a slave to the masses. Healing instead of nuking the !@#$ out of MOBs, party'ing instead of solo'ing like a pro.

Im lvl 16 and can solo enemies 5+ lvls higher than me (wood of course) with just the starting heal and I'll learn a better one when i have the HP for it to make a difference.

I have a feeling you are going to make these Cleric forums a bit interesting.....

wolfen42 wrote: »

Well thanks. I plan on forum posting a lot. I came to PWI straight from Maplstory.

The games are totally different but after being an archer for a while I could see that the idea of "cleric" is still discribed as party slaveb:angry

A "party slave" in your mind.

I find that it is not so much true in this game.

RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »

A "party slave" in your mind.

I find that it is not so much true in this game.

Despite his time spent on this game, he is still correct mostly. If you say straight off the bat you are focused on offensive rather than healing the others and what not, you will very often not have the privilege of a warm welcome. Unless squads don't mind wasting their charm, you are sort of their slave, but you do have the opportunity to do whatever you want ( with all the consequences ) But yes, if you help the squad you help yourself and bla bla. Like the Barbarian or the Blademaster in case there isn't one, your squad will rely a lot on you depending on their levels/charms/carelessness.

Be prepared to have people taking your fun away by prejudice. Despite that, you still have to try to keep the squad alive in order to reach your goal of being in one. Our skills have decent offensive capabilities as well as defensive one's, and the latter is usually the primary focus in squads with the former as the secondary. Get used to it, or get used to a lot of people telling you how to be a Cleric depending on their views of one.

I am a Vit Arcane Cleric and only chose this path for some surviveability without spending a load of coins on refines and expensive shards. I got used to my role depending on the situation ( example : I don't expect to heal let's say a lvl 25 barb constantly in a FB19 ) If I could afford it I would try the pure mage Cleric with offensive skills and my own surviveability as my priority. But yeah, despite all our skills, it's the majority of players that decided what we should do with it, and the minority ( depending on which support skills you leveled ) are usually despised.

As far as PvP goes an LA build is nice as has been mentioned, or just go full Arcane with a big MP pool which will prove very useful with plume shell up ( granted you may use pots or MP food )

wolfen42 wrote: »

Dude I'm totally new to PWI and even I know that FAC is the only way to go. Just refine for HP/Phy.D and your good. That much Vit would take away much needed Mag.A

Unless of course ur planning on being a slave to the masses. Healing instead of nuking the !@#$ out of MOBs, party'ing instead of solo'ing like a pro.

Im lvl 16 and can solo enemies 5+ lvls higher than me (wood of course) with just the starting heal and I'll learn a better one when i have the HP for it to make a difference.

ahem... FAC really is... well lets clear the air, I'm full mag build and love it. but I don't pvp and so far neither have you. I also have a LA cleric on LC that works out ok. The problem with full mag build is that you you don't have the survivability (when I first started the game and went full mag build I thought ppl were crazy thinking there wasn't enough survivability because I survived fine). But once you start pvp which I don't do on my full mag build anymore, you will understand why you full mag build doesn't have the survivability. Thats why imo if you want to pvp with a cleric you should go LA or vit. AA.

Then on another note, when you said that much vit would take away from much needed mag a. though yes it will take away from mag att. and though this does disapoint me in this game. but your mag. doesn't have that much sway on your mag att. (don't believe me check it out for your self) The much bigger factor is your weapon. putting 50 points into vit, not refining all your gear which gets really expensive and refining your weapon instead is cheaper can will give you a better outcome. but this gets alot into how much do you want to spend on this game.

Also another note, most the preset adds on armor (TT, Lunar, Legendary) don't cater to well to full mag build. which can make it hard to find really good armor because you want to look at regular armor which has +hp or vit, its alot more hassle, and a good likely hood you won't get something nearly as good as you would have wanted (though another note regular armor at higher lvls can be alot cheaper then TT since most ppl are using TT gear).

k, so I probably forgot something in here but I think i got most of what I was trying to say down.

RezzErection - Harshlands wrote: »

extreme posion > b:dirty you will almost 1hit bms if you combine with elemtal seal/spark

It would let you hit a BM for 8-9k with their magical marrow on?

Mrvate - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The problem with full mag build is that you you don't have the survivability (when I first started the game and went full mag build I thought ppl were crazy thinking there wasn't enough survivability because I survived fine). But once you start pvp which I don't do on my full mag build anymore, you will understand why you full mag build doesn't have the survivability. Thats why imo if you want to pvp with a cleric you should go LA or vit. AA.

Yes you do b:chuckle what most clerics make the mistake on is their shards. If you go HP your squishy as hell even with 10k hp

Chiv - Lost City wrote: »

Clerics are not party slaves! the party is the clerics slave!

I wish clerics start using leave squad option in slave driving squads xD

Black_lce - Heavens Tear wrote: »

they dont? o.o

i have leave squad on hotkeyb:pleased

<---making my envy face

T,..,T sumthing like this

What I dont get with any game where "healer/buffers" do exist is the lack of refinement in the sklls they learn.

Take our buffs. Great stuff to have but why do we the "masters" of those skills not get a better buff-feedback when cast upon ourselves?
Say we cleric get 5% extra to what a cast would be on others.

If indeed we get a better buff stat added to ourselves we might become less of a party-slave if you get what I am saying.

To a PvP cleric skills like party-buffs are completely useless not to mention that 1 skill we learn or can learn is resurrect. All fine for others but never for ourselves.

just my 2 cions here.

orangecrayon wrote: »

party buffs are uselss besides that they longer
and i hated lvling resurrect, everyone was saying " its your job you have to have it" no i dont, my job is to keep the squad alive, not to prepare for it to die. getting a higher ress benefits everyone but the cleric (even though its the clerics coin and spirit). to my ress is to get someone back in action on the spot, not fixing their mistakes.

i like the dont lvl ur rez people. i didnt lvl my rez til lvl 56 only cause it wasent priority for me. but it is lvl 10 now only bc i dont like to have my friends loose exp when they help me for bosses or my 20x3 etc. i dont randomly rez people or buff unless they fac mates or in my friends list. so if u dont wanna lvl ur rez dont worry about it, its ur cleric. o and the same goes for party buffs. casting all the single buffs on a squad of 6 costs 5,238 mp while useing squad buffs costs u 3,300 mp, see the difference. although iam assuming u have all ur buffs at lvl 10.

orangecrayon wrote: »

i am a support cleric so everything that would have to do with a squad is maxed
it just bothered me maxing ress, even though i has happy to have it in some cases. its just a benefit for others and none at all for me. but most cases was ressing bad party members.

i try to stay out of bad parties and like i said before i party with friends and fac mates so i dont mind rezzing them cause they dont die oftenb:victory

LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »

You are all inferior.... except maybe RedsRose....... but even then......

b:cryb:cry

LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »

I think I may have eaten to much Christmas food.

too many nubcakes b:cold