...."PvPvE"...?!

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
edited December 2009 in General Discussion
does anyone here have a definition for this? i've heard players refering to this, seen it listed in descriptions of other games, but when i tried to look it up online, i couldnt see that it was any different than PvP. in PvP, you have to protect yourself against players and environment, so what is the "vE' part about?
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  • The_Forgoten - Lost City
    The_Forgoten - Lost City Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    PvPvE is a scam. It is just a marketing tool. The vE part is supposed to be PvP while doing PvE. So, basically its is ganking ppl who are grinding.
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    does anyone here have a definition for this? i've heard players refering to this, seen it listed in descriptions of other games, but when i tried to look it up online, i couldnt see that it was any different than PvP. in PvP, you have to protect yourself against players and environment, so what is the "vE' part about?

    Hmmm, I dunno, I would consider doing world bosses a place to potentially use that term. Since I know it's not a rare occurrence that you're killing a WB and get attacked by PKers
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  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    now im really confused! why would anyone refer to PWI in this way is a mystery.

    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    Hmmm, I dunno, I would consider doing world bosses a place to potentially use that term. Since I know it's not a rare occurrence that you're killing a WB and get attacked by PKers

    marketing? how would it sell anything?
    The_Forgoten PvPvE is a scam. It is just a marketing tool. The vE part is supposed to be PvP while doing PvE. So, basically its is ganking ppl who are grinding.
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  • Xeian - Dreamweaver
    Xeian - Dreamweaver Posts: 720 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I feel sorry for PvP servrs doing WBs, I can see what peopel would want to lure them to a safezone lol
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  • Showboat - Dreamweaver
    Showboat - Dreamweaver Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I believe that it specifically refers to a server with areas of safe PVE content and areas with no PVE content where PVP is enabled. Unlike here, where you can be pked while grinding, PvPvE has different zones, making grinding safe from PKers. This is most common in games with only one server or multiple identical servers.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Sounds like a buzzword without much meaning. I think I've heard it used to refer to MMOs that have PVE content that is similar to the PVP content (like fighting mobs feels similar to fighting other players).
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  • Absoluth - Heavens Tear
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    Hmmm, I dunno, I would consider doing world bosses a place to potentially use that term. Since I know it's not a rare occurrence that you're killing a WB and get attacked by PKers
    Other day some friends went to smack a WB and when it was like 5~10% some high lv venos sent their bugged phoenixes to steal agro and the loot. 2 questions:
    1 - Is this kind of harrasment (considering the time everyone wasted) allowed, aswell as pk'ing those in PvP servers, or do people get banned for it?
    2 - When is the veno pet damage gonna be fixed?
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Other day some friends went to smack a WB and when it was like 5~10% some high lv venos sent their bugged phoenixes to steal agro and the loot. 2 questions:
    1 - Is this kind of harrasment (considering the time everyone wasted) allowed, aswell as pk'ing those in PvP servers, or do people get banned for it?
    2 - When is the veno pet damage gonna be fixed?

    It shouldnt be possible to KS if the other squad has already done greater than 50% damage.
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  • eternalnab
    eternalnab Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Other day some friends went to smack a WB and when it was like 5~10% some high lv venos sent their bugged phoenixes to steal agro and the loot. 2 questions:
    1 - Is this kind of harrasment (considering the time everyone wasted) allowed, aswell as pk'ing those in PvP servers, or do people get banned for it?
    2 - When is the veno pet damage gonna be fixed?

    stop saying bugged pets or Xasth will slap u :P
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Other day some friends went to smack a WB and when it was like 5~10% some high lv venos sent their bugged phoenixes to steal agro and the loot.

    If you've done 90-95% damage, then unless those are super-powered fully epic Nixes [more epic than normal] then I don't see how they steal aggro off you. Really. If a barb does 90-95% damage on a mob the best archer in the world isn't likely to be able to steal from all the hate that builds up. So! Unless you were swapping aggro around yourself between people [hey, could be if you're fighting a WB] then I don't see how the nixes stole.
    Also, if you were in a squad, drops would have been yours to pick up and not theirs because you did the greater amount of damage. Or at least, this is what I have come to assume from my time being in a squad and having people try steal loot from mobs my squad kills - don't quote me if I'm wrong.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Absoluth
    lol???
    b:sweat

    also PvPvE is more like....PvP server with...extended safe zones.

    sort of like RvR (realm vs realm) like [giant 3 letter word acronym] game.
    Can't really kill your own "realm" but is free to wander around and kill those of the other realm.
    (me actually went in a PvP server in there as well.....more fun.) xD
    only part me didn't like was the no communication thingy between factions (realms).
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  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    PvPvE is just what Fox described & what we call PvP servers. It is simply to differentiate the game from many FPS shooter types, or RTS online types, where there isnt any "vE" aspect at all, the game is pure PvP, the Environment never fights back. Using that definition, we dont have any true "PvP" servers, but rather "PvE" servers & "PvPvE" servers.
  • Absoluth - Heavens Tear
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If you've done 90-95% damage, then unless those are super-powered fully epic Nixes [more epic than normal] then I don't see how they steal aggro off you. Really. If a barb does 90-95% damage on a mob the best archer in the world isn't likely to be able to steal from all the hate that builds up. So! Unless you were swapping aggro around yourself between people [hey, could be if you're fighting a WB] then I don't see how the nixes stole.
    Also, if you were in a squad, drops would have been yours to pick up and not theirs because you did the greater amount of damage. Or at least, this is what I have come to assume from my time being in a squad and having people try steal loot from mobs my squad kills - don't quote me if I'm wrong.
    First, i said 'some friends'. I wasnt there. Second, as far as i know, agro isnt purely about dmg. They could've spammed those genie agro skills or something. I myself dont understand how they did it, but they managed to take loot. Maybe they didnt even take agro and simply took the last hit on boss and drops went to them. Not sure how ks wars work in this game, but i believe whoever gets last hit gets drop, no?

    How they got the drop, im not sure. What i do know is they got it. What i want to know is, is this a bannable offense?
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    PvP- Player versus player.
    PvE- Player versus environment.

    Am I right?b:thanks
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    First, i said 'some friends'. I wasnt there. Second, as far as i know, agro isnt purely about dmg. They could've spammed those genie agro skills or something. I myself dont understand how they did it, but they managed to take loot. Maybe they didnt even take agro and simply took the last hit on boss and drops went to them. Not sure how ks wars work in this game, but i believe whoever gets last hit gets drop, no?

    How they got the drop, im not sure. What i do know is they got it. What i want to know is, is this a bannable offense?

    Your friends aren't telling you something. Loot goes to people who get >50% of the damage on the mob.
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  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If a Nix stole aggro on a WB wouldn't it get killed in one hit?
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  • Axel - Harshlands
    Axel - Harshlands Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    PvPvE = Absolute line of **** used as a marketing strategy because it was a something different from just saying RvR or just plain PvP.
    For some reason, I post more now then I did when I actually played this game...does that make me a troll?
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  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Axel - Harshlands wrote: »
    PvPvE = Absolute line of **** used as a marketing strategy because it was a something different from just saying RvR or just plain PvP.

    Marketting Strategy? - Yes
    line of ****? - No

    PvPvE is different from PvP games in that there is an Environment that will fight back. Go play an FPS or RTS only game where the ONLY goal is killing or beating other players & you'll see that PvP is different from PvPvE. If this game had a pure PvP server, you'd buy all your equipment (ok, Anni packs made that a little too 'real') and then just duke it out with other players all day long, no TT, no dailies, no Rebirth, no... you get the point.

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