Fist/Axe blademaster... no vit =O

Mavado - Harshlands
Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Blademaster
So i'm wanting to make an axe/fist blademaster b:victory


with 6 str and 4 dex every 2 levels i could do that right? The only downside is less hp......... mhhh... that could be a problem... b:surrender

Do you guys/girls think this could work?
>_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    4k hp with gears atm most vit's my lvl have 5k

    you'll be fine
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • dededeet
    dededeet Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    A fist bm u should go 5 str 4 dex 1 vit every 2 levels. Before lvl 20 u should use dual swords though. I made that mistake and died a lot. But since u complained about the hp loss u could do 4 str 4 dex and 2 vit. I prefer the first build i said though. HIGH CRIT CHANCE RULES ON FIST. REALLY MAKES UP FOR THE LOWISH DAMAGE. PLUS HOW FAST YOU ATTACK. PFFT GOOD LUCK PEOPLE
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Dededeet... completely unhelpful =P

    I wasn't complaining about no vit, just wondering how much of a difference it would make and if anyone had done it and had it work. Such as Joshcja, whom i thank for commenting.
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    actually fists do the same damage as my calams on normal attacls (or close to it)

    crit is a nice bonus from all that dex but its relly just ther for acc and fist req str is what does damage

    5/4/1 is the pole sword fist build he wants axe fist
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    actually fists do the same damage as my calams on normal attacls (or close to it)

    crit is a nice bonus from all that dex but its relly just ther for acc and fist req str is what does damage

    5/4/1 is the pole sword fist build he wants axe fist

    Exactly, thanks XD
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • Melack - Harshlands
    Melack - Harshlands Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    1. JOSH start lvling NOW! b:chuckle

    2. vit = overated (start flaming now!) vit build = ultra failed barb, some extra vit is nice for tws tho

    3. u can do all the weapons but u will need to be rich, its damn expensive! n u ill die a lot ull **** barbs and archers (if u stunlock them) for sure, a good veno or cleric jum = problems

    4. is damn fun! multipath FTW!
  • Echelon - Heavens Tear
    Echelon - Heavens Tear Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    This topic confuses me......

    Vit is important no matter how you look at it. It adds HP, Def, mag def, and HP regen. So A no vit build is really risking it survival wise.

    As for a Fist/Axe, from what I figured out it a constant 3 str 2dex to be able to perfectly maintain a Axe Fist build. As an example.....let's use lvl 60 weapons.


    Skeleton Axes 182 Str. 182/3 =60.6......even with this you'll need to wait til 61 or have +str gear....

    Annihilator of Souls 120 Dex 120/2 = 60.......prefect for that lvl.

    This build is very hard to pull off and requires alot of Vit Gear and/or HP shards to make up for Health. Otherwise the AoE grinding and stuff the Axes are intended for really won't work out as well as you hoped...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    yes all weapon bm like AA HA venos is a build that will streach your stats to the breaking point (not QUITE as bad lol but +ing and sharding high lvl gear and getting sp for skills is a pain)

    HA refines for a rediculous amount of hp

    i aoe grind with my measly hp and 1/2 LA having pole and axe skills make the damage you take a joke once you learn to controll your little flock of cash filed lambs as you slaughter them

    yes like all builds the all weapon bm has drawbacks ours is about 2k hp at edgame less than a vit build for the ability to efectivly deal wit almost any situation and oponnent

    in short we are a little easier to kill but only a little 9k hp - 2k is still 7k
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Made it to lvl 91 so far with a 0 vit build, never really had troubles PvE wise. I can tank the bosses in BH so far, cubed every 10 level range and succeeded, breezed through gamma, even when having to tank the whole double waves (barb died while luring from stun + mana drain) multiple times.

    High health is for spike, not survival. Your defense and cleric's healing is what counts for survival. And when solo, sutra heals fine if using fists, charm/genie heals fine for AoE with axes.

    PvP is where you'll want the extra health, but at the point it really matters (9X and up) you'll be getting health from your gear. And since we should be stunlocking to get the kills, health isn't as much an issue.

    TW is an entirely different matter, but you have a good chance of dieing either way you stat. At least 3 - 2 you hit, and you hit hard.

    NOTE: Yes, I know, my avatar displays the wrong level. Been aware of that the past 13 levels.
    Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura

    Get a High lvl Fist warrior use it, Restat to axes. GG - complexx

    :NOTE: These signatures are to forever immortalize, how stupid people can be.
  • KiraHaven - Heavens Tear
    KiraHaven - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I know I haven't contributed anything to this before, but this has really helped me out. I was thinking about making a Fist build before, because I'm just drawn to that sort of thing... it also seems a very rare path to choose, but I heard from a friend that it's well worth the trouble of finding the "guides" for it, since there really aren't any (that I've seen), if there are I'd love the link. ^_^
    Anyway, I was wondering what the best build was, and I have yet to decide whether or not I'm gonna do a PvE or PvP server yet.
    Looking at this it seems that Fists are an "All path" kind of BM, is that right? Or is it just a "multi-path"? Anyway, getting to the point, I was wondering which path/sets of paths is the best to choose from, which skills are the best to level up, and should I use something other than fists before level 20 (I saw that in an earlier post), or does it actually matter?
  • AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear
    AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,413 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Up to level 30 it doesn't matter what weapon you use.
    Retired

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • kamikaze101
    kamikaze101 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    KiraHaven - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I know I haven't contributed anything to this before, but this has really helped me out. I was thinking about making a Fist build before, because I'm just drawn to that sort of thing... it also seems a very rare path to choose, but I heard from a friend that it's well worth the trouble of finding the "guides" for it, since there really aren't any (that I've seen), if there are I'd love the link. ^_^
    Anyway, I was wondering what the best build was, and I have yet to decide whether or not I'm gonna do a PvE or PvP server yet.
    Looking at this it seems that Fists are an "All path" kind of BM, is that right? Or is it just a "multi-path"? Anyway, getting to the point, I was wondering which path/sets of paths is the best to choose from, which skills are the best to level up, and should I use something other than fists before level 20 (I saw that in an earlier post), or does it actually matter?

    if you want kick **** damage and accuracy/evasion the "All weapon" Build is TEH **** >->;;...6 str, 4 dex every 2 levels ;o
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I don't see why you wouldn't add any vit, considering it helps quite a lot. My BM is almost Lv70, and will be able to use both 70 axes and fists with 45 base vit.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • kamikaze101
    kamikaze101 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It comes down to play style I guess ;s....0 vit is good for me =3
  • Divine_Death - Harshlands
    Divine_Death - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I was going to go 3-2, but then chickened out. b:sadb:surrender
  • kamikaze101
    kamikaze101 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    ;p, play with the build that you feel most comfortable...most safe with ;p,,,though if youre on a pvp server I advise you not to go for a vit axe build D=
  • Divine_Death - Harshlands
    Divine_Death - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    kamikaze101 wrote: »
    ;p, play with the build that you feel most comfortable...most safe with ;p,,,though if youre on a pvp server I advise you not to go for a vit axe build D=

    Going 1 VIT, 3 STR and 1 DEX for now. Capping VIT at 50.

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