[Help] Wiz or Cleric ???

As wiz in PvP, you'll be the pushing bag of everyone (mostly archers), and won't stand a chance until later (endgame wizzies rock)
For PvE, pritty easy if you know how to play (still a challange though, can't be compared to veno), but skils are damn expencive. Though with smart use of water shield, self heal, ect, you won't need alot of pots.

I don't know so much about cleric, but here is what I do know:
Clerics are easy solo class cause of self heals (though still don't compare to 'send out the pet and heal it till mob is dead'), though you have to know what you do, just like with wiz. Clerics are also terribly expencive, cause of skils, and if you are going TT's ect, you will burn mp like crazy, so you'll need to buy alot of pots (though you get second pick in return, as wiz I hardly even need pots in TT)

Taranta - Dreamweaver wrote: »

My personal observations on the two classes:

Wizard: Ignored until endgame. Most people will go for a higher spike damage/less squishy class like a BM or Archer for squads. Once you start maxing skills, that's when you get brought along for things. Might be used as a spare DD in TT instead of bringing along a veno. (Don't know pricing for skills)

My best example: if you have enough spirit, you have no coins. If you have enough coins, you have no spirit.
You'll be pumping all your coins and spirit (whatever you have more of, at low lvl you'll be low on spirit, at higher lvls you'll be low on coins) into skils you need to max, cause without up to date skils, you're wizzie is useless

i'm a level 80 cleric and i can solo many of my quests, as long as they don't involve a boss. then again, its hard for any class to solo a boss of their level.

so to answer your question, yes clerics can do well in solo, especially if you know when to time your heals.

kajieshiro wrote: »

Hi, I'm currently playing a veno as my main, and deciding on what to make as my alt char.
Between the two, Wiz or Cleric.
Note:
I'm more of a solo person, if ever in group, i wanna be useful.
PVP - careless if expensive, but must be dam good at it.
PVE - MUST be cheap to level and pve.

And base on the fact that i'm playing a veno, what's more preferred as my alt?

thanks

cheap to level.....neither wizzy or clerics. b:shocked they both dam expensive. sounds like what you be describing... IS A VENO! b:chuckle
expensive but dam good at PvP = Nix
PvE = cheap to level = veno just use your pets to tank everything, all while soloing, etc, etc.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wizzy's can solo just as fine.
With good use of knockbacks, I can kill any melee mob before it reaches me, and magic mobs hardly hurt. With kite skils and knockbacks, I can solo mini bosses without getting hit.

Wizzies also have a heal, it's good to heal yourself during fights, as the long channel prevents you from using it during the fight

your post....it confooses me. b:surrender
good to heal during a fight....while the long channeling prevents you from using it???
me only use me heal in squads mostly during boss fights.

er when alone....it's best to heal after a fight. b:chuckle

If you had to heal in a fight (And I forgot pots again) then Force of Will gives enough time to cast Morning Dew then knockback the mob on their return trip.

For the wiz/cleric question. Just stick with your veno. Neither fills the requirements. Cleric has high mp costs, wiz's spell costs are the second highest in the game, and since packs came out you have to spend alot to compete with CSer using any class.

As veno youdon't need up to date gear because you have a personal tank. As wiz and veno, YES, you need proper defences.

Not sure how you mean one time problem?
However, cleric NEEDS cleric availeble for it's tasks (healing, you need to keep the tank alive or squad is dead. Wiz doesn't NEED to keep attacking during the whole boss fight, even though the squad won't be happy if you go meditating during a TT boss, you could without causing a squad wipe)

PvP wise. Classes are ballanced, every class can pwn every other class if you know how to. With some classes it's jut easyer to pwn than with others (archers mid lvl = auto attack and it's dead, while wiz needs to know what skils to use when).

Either class is great although clerics are in greater demand both can be used solo and as I say no class is any higher than the other if you are prepared to work hard for them, but which ever you choose go for the full mage build you will enjoy the final results. b:victory

kajieshiro wrote: »

Hi, I'm currently playing a veno as my main, and deciding on what to make as my alt char.
Between the two, Wiz or Cleric.
Note:
I'm more of a solo person, if ever in group, i wanna be useful.
PVP - careless if expensive, but must be dam good at it.
PVE - MUST be cheap to level and pve.

And base on the fact that i'm playing a veno, what's more preferred as my alt?

thanks

It really depends how you want to play the game.

Like I personally have my cleric and other alts that include two wizards. Its fun playing a wizard because you get to see really nice spells and of course if you make it and get ice dragon, you'll be a wizard for life.

For a cleric.....

Its a hard life but its rewarding in the end. Maybe not in riches, but in friendship and feeling part of a group b:cute

So yeah, I think that either way you'll love them both lol

I'm biased. I love wizard. There's nothing more enjoyable to me than seeing my weakest attacks dealing over seven thousand damage and decimating entire crowds of enemies in seconds. I love being strong enough to tank many elemental bosses with my high resistance and barriers (all Lvl 10 now that I've seen the benefits of them, previously only Stone Barrier was). What can I say? I love my job.

The downside are you're very brittle, its very easy to steal the monsters off tanks and soloing can be a pain until Force of Will and Will of the Phoenix, and even then it can still be tricky without a guardian charm or lots of medicines.

That being said, Clerics get invites like crazy. Every team is going to need one, so there's always room for you. Wizards are an optional choice unless you need some elemental tanking, so we're more niceties than necessity. We can put out a lot of damage, but we do so slowly and in large chunks whereas other damage dealers, like archers, do so quickly and rack up the damage over time.

That being said, I also have a Cleric character. Theres no hard rule to say you can't have the best of both worlds. Being able to effectively heal a team of players, buff them and keep them safe is, for me, a very rewarding task. You'll be thanked profusely for ressurecting some poor unfortunate out in the wild, and you're no slouch when it comes to damage and survivability yourself. Though not as flashy as a wizard, they can pull off some impressive hits and they have defensive spells that make other classes green with envy.

Only thing I'm gonna say about Clerics.. Is be prepared to pay a lot of coins. :P