PvP?

Jibbe - Sanctuary
Jibbe - Sanctuary Posts: 35 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Venomancer
are venos good at it?
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Can't speak personally outside of a few duels - but the fact that our pets skills don't suffer the damage reduction properly gives us a major advantage.

    ur ability to purge and debuff is powerful.

    Offsetting this, we don't have the best attacks in the world, nor the best defences.

    And before someone else says it:
    "Depends. Do you have a phoenix?"
  • PequetteV - Lost City
    PequetteV - Lost City Posts: 1,202 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    without phoenix, that pet is overpowered in pvp because skill doesnt suffer pvp nerf, wf are almost nothing to worry about


    our only skill in pvp is
    -lucky scarab and stunning blow (both impairing movement)
    -amp,purge,hell para nova (they are debuff)
    -our dmg is not that big compare to other pvp class like bm,archer,wizard
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  • Lilxifire - Harshlands
    Lilxifire - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Venos can kill anyone PvP
  • Peritia - Lost City
    Peritia - Lost City Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    PequetteV - Lost City wrote: »
    without phoenix, that pet is overpowered in pvp because skill doesnt suffer pvp nerf, wf are almost nothing to worry about

    A bit misleading.

    Full explanation:

    There is nothing special about the Phoenix.

    The skill "Flesh Ream" (which any pet can learn) does not suffer the damage reduction other skills do in PVP. Whether it be on a Phoenix, Scorpion, Magmite, or Snow Hare, the skill will not suffer the usual damage reduction.

    This effect is simply more noticeable on the Phoenix, as it has the highest attack value out of all the pets.

    As for it being overpowered, that's a matter of opinion. So long as the person attacking the Veno+Nix combo has a strategy in mind, it's very possible to deal with. In my own opinion, flesh ream is no more "overpowered" than an archer or wizard's ability to oneshot many robes or heavy armour users, respectively.
    our dmg is not that big compare to other pvp class like bm,archer,wizard

    It could be argued that this is the reason Flesh Ream does not suffer the same damage reduction, however this is only speculation, as GMs have consistently declined to comment on the subject.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It's not speculation. I tested it on a pet that started with the skill when caught. It did more damage than my phoenixes normal hits per bleed. Level 93 phoenix vs level 80 some general pet?
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  • Peritia - Lost City
    Peritia - Lost City Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Zoe, you appear to have misunderstood my post.

    The speculation I was referring to was that our low damage output relative to other classes is the reason that flesh ream does not suffer a damage reduction in PVP.

    As mentioned previously, this has not been commented on either way by GMs, to the best of my knowledge.

    EDIT: To clarify, I mean that it's possible this inconsistency is intentional. Once again though, due to a lack of any commentary from GMs, this is speculation.
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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Yes, we're good at PvP. With. Or without. Nix. PERIOD. I, for one, don't have a nix, and I'm damn good at killing other people. It all comes down to what you know. My PK buddy is a Magmite. You know, the tank every Veno has? Pump him with enough attack skills, and you've got a constant barrage of pain. Top that with an Amp? Your opponent is dead. All you have to worry about is surviving the damage. And for that, I suggest pots, Leech, Soul Transfusion, Genies, Charms, ETC. It's really not that hard.
  • Poison - Heavens Tear
    Poison - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,444 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Go ask the lvl 101 archers I've killed 1v1, or any of the BM's, Barbs, Clerics, Wizards and other venos who have faced me if the veno class sucks at pvp. As for us not being able to deal as much damage as the other classes?

    While purging and amping...
    delta01.jpg
    After that...
    delta02.jpg
    Doesn't show pet damage but I walked away, he didn't and he had 8-9 levels on me at that point.
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  • Momento - Heavens Tear
    Momento - Heavens Tear Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Well legendary pets were initially introduced because venomancers were so weak at pvp. So yes, our magic attack is horrendous compared to other classes. And even though we can obtain the same amount of base magic attack, our skills have the lowest damage output in comparision to other magic classes.

    Venomancers are very good at pvp.

    Venomancers have 4 godly skills for pk:
    bramble hood
    parasitic nova
    soul transfusion
    purge


    However, on older servers, wizards and barbarians dominate end game as the nix becomes increasingly less effective. Although I have heard about a sage archer with a +12 bow that is just farming kills with his massive range. But yea... good luck killing a sage barb with 30k unbuffed hp b:surrender
  • Poison - Heavens Tear
    Poison - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,444 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Momento - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    a sage barb with 30k unbuffed hp b:surrender

    b:shocked yeah, that's one I wouldn't even bother with either.
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  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Momento - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    However, on older servers, wizards and barbarians dominate end game as the nix becomes increasingly less effective. Although I have heard about a sage archer with a +12 bow that is just farming kills with his massive range. But yea... good luck killing a sage barb with 30k unbuffed hp b:surrender
    her bow is golden TT99. i'd rather get rank8 weapon instead...
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  • Aniella - Harshlands
    Aniella - Harshlands Posts: 729 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    veno's sux **** in pvp..bc have **** low mag atk then other classes. and pet don't work most venos have low hp..and die **** fast...
    i have 4k hp i still HAVE low hp..and my mag is to high..:S
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  • Downed - Harshlands
    Downed - Harshlands Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Momento - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well legendary pets were initially introduced because venomancers were so weak at pvp. So yes, our magic attack is horrendous compared to other classes. And even though we can obtain the same amount of base magic attack, our skills have the lowest damage output in comparision to other magic classes.

    Venomancers are very good at pvp.

    Venomancers have 4 godly skills for pk:
    bramble hood
    parasitic nova
    soul transfusion
    purge
    amplify damage

    However, on older servers, wizards and barbarians dominate end game as the nix becomes increasingly less effective. Although I have heard about a sage archer with a +12 bow that is just farming kills with his massive range. But yea... good luck killing a sage barb with 30k unbuffed hp b:surrender

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  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    double facepalm at Aniella

    Also Poison - that damage Delta did to you was with Bramble hood up, does not count! >.>
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  • Nokova - Sanctuary
    Nokova - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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