Some questions for the higher ups

Alantor - Dreamweaver · November 2009

Hi all,

I got some questions for the more experienced clerics out here. By those i mean lvl 85+ at least.

1. Are the lvl 79 skills worth taking as soon as possible or can i wait with those ? So far, i don't see any need for them, and i'm in no rush to finish my SP cult. (i didn't do the very last part of cult at altar).

2. I'm wearing the lvl 77 Legendary armor (arcane) refined, and so far they have flawless citrines in them. Should i start thinking about placing Pdef shards or just keep it this way ? Base hp is 3.2K+ unbuffed. (wanted enough for RB & stuff).

3.is it worthwile to upgrade my TT80 weapon (above+3) ? I think i will be in the 80 to 90 range for a long time, and a better refined weapon would help me with my regular questing & grinding (a bit) i think.

4. Can anyone tell me at what lvl in the 80+ it is worth it to AoE and on what mobs? I was thinking mothran dazzlewings (butterfly's) , but are there any others that are good ?

Thx for any help.

Sevas - Heavens Tear · November 2009

Alantor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hi all,

I got some questions for the more experienced clerics out here. By those i mean lvl 85+ at least.

1. Are the lvl 79 skills worth taking as soon as possible or can i wait with those ? So far, i don't see any need for them, and i'm in no rush to finish my SP cult. (i didn't do the very last part of cult at altar).
I like Wings of Protection. Clerics often put it on me or other squad members when it looks like we'll do something stupid. I plan on getting it for my cleric.

2. I'm wearing the lvl 77 Legendary armor (arcane) refined, and so far they have flawless citrines in them. Should i start thinking about placing Pdef shards or just keep it this way ? Base hp is 3.2K+ unbuffed. (wanted enough for RB & stuff).
I prefer Citrines, but that's up to you. I don't plan on glowing red with my cleric (even if I make her go demon).

3.is it worthwile to upgrade my TT80 weapon (above+3) ? I think i will be in the 80 to 90 range for a long time, and a better refined weapon would help me with my regular questing & grinding (a bit) i think.
If you're going to be there a while, definitely. Which weapon are you getting?

4. Can anyone tell me at what lvl in the 80+ it is worth it to AoE and on what mobs? I was thinking mothran dazzlewings (butterfly's) , but are there any others that are good ?
The Malicious Cadevil near 1k are good. Poison DoT.

Thx for any help.

Anytime, I try. b:thanks Good luck.

Alantor - Dreamweaver · November 2009

As for weapon : i had a glaive of divinity +2 but switched to Endless Ambi which i refined to +3/2 immas on it.

The Glaive had more Max Matk but less min Matk, but since i don't want my heals to go down i decided to go with TT80. (heals based on base Matk)

As for people doing something stupid, there is something called : "revive".
They probably won't be stupid again after dying.

Do the cadevils do a lot more DoT poison then the dazzlewings ? I believe they're lvl 85 versus lvl 80 butterflies.

Ussichu - Sanctuary · December 2009

Alantor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hi all,

I got some questions for the more experienced clerics out here. By those i mean lvl 85+ at least.

1. Are the lvl 79 skills worth taking as soon as possible or can i wait with those ? So far, i don't see any need for them, and i'm in no rush to finish my SP cult. (i didn't do the very last part of cult at altar).

2. I'm wearing the lvl 77 Legendary armor (arcane) refined, and so far they have flawless citrines in them. Should i start thinking about placing Pdef shards or just keep it this way ? Base hp is 3.2K+ unbuffed. (wanted enough for RB & stuff).

3.is it worthwile to upgrade my TT80 weapon (above+3) ? I think i will be in the 80 to 90 range for a long time, and a better refined weapon would help me with my regular questing & grinding (a bit) i think.

4. Can anyone tell me at what lvl in the 80+ it is worth it to AoE and on what mobs? I was thinking mothran dazzlewings (butterfly's) , but are there any others that are good ?

Thx for any help.

Well here's what i think:

1. Wings of Protection is GREAT! The best part about Wings of protection is that IT DOESN'T DRAW AGGRO. See the barb/BM taking too much damage but they don't have aggro completely for you to heal? WoP!

Guardian's light is more for surviving in a pinch. Has its uses, its more a personal experience to scope the skill.

2. RB just needs a good barb. The worse the barb the better your HP/pdef has to be. Its fine like that IMO, my wife had the same HP. Only eighth and final boss would one shot her if BB/plume shell wasn't up.

3. My wife did fine with the glaive. Its your choice in the end.

4. Gamma gamma gamma till 86! but if you lack the time can't help you here, that's all my wife and I did at 80-85

rst777 · December 2009

Alantor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

They probably won't be stupid again after dying.

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aaaahhh that is about the funniest thing i have read on here in a loooong time.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · December 2009

1. Are the lvl 79 skills worth taking as soon as possible or can i wait with those ? So far, i don't see any need for them, and i'm in no rush to finish my SP cult. (i didn't do the very last part of cult at altar).
Id prio personally
1-Wings of protection (usable you or another person, lasts decently)
2-Guardian light (self buff, only 10sec seems shorter...)

2. I'm wearing the lvl 77 Legendary armor (arcane) refined, and so far they have flawless citrines in them. Should i start thinking about placing Pdef shards or just keep it this way ? Base hp is 3.2K+ unbuffed. (wanted enough for RB & stuff).
I have been saying for a while, and still will say, that HP clerics are squishy as ****. High hp is good if you are going VS magic opponents, but you also want to be balanced. Redsrose recently also changed to pdef shards so she'll probably pop up sooner or later here.
I wont say full pdef shards. Maybe some extra citrine on 2 gears and rest pdef, at least thats my build. I went pdef from start to finish. Rose went from HP to pdef so she might have a broader perspective on the lv usage.

3.is it worthwile to upgrade my TT80 weapon (above+3) ? I think i will be in the 80 to 90 range for a long time, and a better refined weapon would help me with my regular questing & grinding (a bit) i think.
If your planning on doing gamma then you can keep it at +3.(fast lvling)
If not, indulge yourself.

4. Can anyone tell me at what lvl in the 80+ it is worth it to AoE and on what mobs? I was thinking mothran dazzlewings (butterfly's) , but are there any others that are good ?
fishes up north??

Quilue - Sanctuary · December 2009

Mothrans don't even DoT, clerics AoE them because they're wood and Lake of Woe has them in dense packs. fish is good but they're lvl 88.

Cadevils are lvl 85 i think, they kind of suck cuz they drain mana but i guess you can get rid of that too.

RedsRose - Lost City · December 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

2. I'm wearing the lvl 77 Legendary armor (arcane) refined, and so far they have flawless citrines in them. Should i start thinking about placing Pdef shards or just keep it this way ? Base hp is 3.2K+ unbuffed. (wanted enough for RB & stuff).
I have been saying for a while, and still will say, that HP clerics are squishy as ****. High hp is good if you are going VS magic opponents, but you also want to be balanced. Redsrose recently also changed to pdef shards so she'll probably pop up sooner or later here.
I wont say full pdef shards. Maybe some extra citrine on 2 gears and rest pdef, at least thats my build. I went pdef from start to finish. Rose went from HP to pdef so she might have a broader perspective on the lv usage.[/COLOR

b:cute Here......

HP versus Pdef is a tough one.....I myself was full HP sharded until level 100 when I got my "endgame" gear. I have noticed a HUGE difference in survivability since switching to Pdef...I was for a long time an advocate of HP thinking that it would make more of a difference but I now think that pdef is the way to go.

However, I do not think that I would recommend full Pdef until after level 90. The best case would be (imo) stay with HP through your 8x, then at 90 do a combination of HP and Pdef. Once you get your 99 armor (event gear if you can) then switch to Pdef.

I know some who have HP just in their cape and helm with all Pdef everywhere else, but I chose to go all Pdef since you can get your HP through refining.

Full Buffed - My Build at level 84

Full Buffed - My Current Build

Also you can look at our responses in This Thread.

Basically...now I have more Pdef then HP when fully buffed...lol...but I was amazed at how much lower pys attacks hit me. And there is always Plume shell and of course Defense Charms (EPICNESS) in a pinch!!

(keep in mind I am a vit build for TW but will be restating back to full int once I get another refine in...so I might put HP in my Cape to off set the loss in vit hp)

Just my opinion b:cute

PS ---> Poison mobs BEST to aoe on (spiders, Cadevils) but once I reached 80 I was at the fish spot

Ewings - Heavens Tear · December 2009

I got some questions for the more experienced clerics out here. By those i mean lvl 85+ at least.

1. Are the lvl 79 skills worth taking as soon as possible or can i wait with those ? So far, i don't see any need for them, and i'm in no rush to finish my SP cult. (i didn't do the very last part of cult at altar).

Wings of protection - extremely long range skill (havent tested how far) allows you to extend ur or others life prevent charm tick on barbs or save lives, very useful due to low chi usage.

Guardian light- Awesome skill for pressure situation with this you turn into a Herc itself, its very good for tough rushes and in PVP when u have one spark and u r getting uber ganked.

2. I'm wearing the lvl 77 Legendary armor (arcane) refined, and so far they have flawless citrines in them. Should i start thinking about placing Pdef shards or just keep it this way ? Base hp is 3.2K+ unbuffed. (wanted enough for RB & stuff).
HP and Pdef ou wanna balance both have a decent Pdef and good hp you can increase ny based on what kinda challenges u face mostly and also how much you have put on ur vit.

3.is it worthwile to upgrade my TT80 weapon (above+3) ? I think i will be in the 80 to 90 range for a long time, and a better refined weapon would help me with my regular questing & grinding (a bit) i think.

If you think you will outgrow it in a month or 2 then take it max to max upto 4 otherwise go for 5.

4. Can anyone tell me at what lvl in the 80+ it is worth it to AoE and on what mobs? I was thinking mothran dazzlewings (butterfly's) , but are there any others that are good ?

Dazzlewings are good till 81 i think then you can go for phoenixes near Immolation camp and then move to cadevils around 1K. Also you can do fish parties and Do your dailies and RB upto 86. Also dont forget Forgotten frostland, superb EXP with 2x or with Esoterica.

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