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Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »Stop comparing this game with the RL world. You are just looking more silly with every statement you make.
its been proven before that in some instances players have taken games too seriously and have acted out what they have done in-game in RL with some serious consequences.
on another note: I would say that its fairly possible that some pkers go into the Cube game mainly to Pk other players and not to do the Cube. It's unfortunate but there it is, if you go to play the Cube then you will no doubt run into these sorts of players who will try to kill your character.0 -
RawrzWolf - Sanctuary wrote: »They should be banned because their actions caused my loss and trouble. In-game harrassment.
In real life, Everywhere is a "Pk" zone. You can be killed in your house, while you sleep. Or outside in the public. Anywhere.
True, I DO have the Hp to survive archer attacks, but the thing that happened was. Dead charm, and my HP doesnt last forever. Also archers have that pesky evasion which causes me to miss more than often. And they like to run..
Seriously, Do i need to explain this?
*Facepalm*
So does me being PKed while questing. Or getting PKed without my consent anywhere.
PK Zones = Able and allowed to PK
Life = Able but not allowed to PK
When people roll a PVP server and complain about being PKed, people tell them they should roll a PVE server. I guess it would be apt in your case to take the alternative option, which is just not do cube if you don't like being pked.
You can put in a suggestion polling for cube to be a safe zone, but banning PKers for PKing in a PK zone is a tad contradictory.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
My original point, the **** holes of PW. Dont give a damn about anyone else apart from themselves.XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver wrote: »The difference is that a PK zone is "Here you ARE permitted to kill people." It's risky, it's open PK, expect people to kill BECAUSE they can. They don't care if it's good/bad: they CAN kill, they will.Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »Stop comparing this game with the RL world. You are just looking more silly with every statement you make.
Its a freakin metaphor.
Careful.. I might bite.. *shows teeth* b:laughTatuaje - Lost City wrote: »RawrzWolf = Possilby the biggest puppie on PWI b:victory Grow some fangs and toughen up.
*no comment* b:shyTatuaje - Lost City wrote: »*squeezes Wolfies cheeks. You're such a cute little puppie wuppie dog.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Asperitas - Lost City wrote: »So does me being PKed while questing. Or getting PKed without my consent anywhere.
PK Zones = Able and allowed to PK
Life = Able but not allowed to PK
When people roll a PVP server and complain about being PKed, people tell them they should roll a PVE server. I guess it would be apt in your case to take the alternative option, which is just not do cube if you don't like being pked.
You can put in a suggestion polling for cube to be a safe zone, but banning PKers for PKing in a PK zone is a tad contradictory.
Im not saying anything about Pking on a PvP server. Thats what those servers are made for.. If it happens, It happens.
I'm on a PvE server, and Pking should not be happening anywhere it doesnt need to be. Like in Cube when i post no threat to other people.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
lmao at this threadb:chuckle. Dude Do-Alls ftwb:victory. Always expect to be pk'd in cube if u want to do it. ur lvl 92 barb though i wonder what lvl was the archer that killed u b:puzzled. Anyhow you have to be on your toes in certain rooms of cube so expect people to go out and pk you. That doesnt make them a jerk for doing so, thats just how some ppl play the game.I dont level Slow I just enjoy the game b:surrender0
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That doesn't take away from the fact that parts of cube is PVP enabled. This means that people are able and allowed to PK, and unless they are repeatedly following you around and griefing you, it doesnt make them any less decent or humane by utilizing an in-game function, clearly set in for people to use.
If your point is that since you're on a PVE server, cube should be PVE as well, then make that the thesis of your argument. That's what i pointed out above. But to ban players for PKing in a PK allowed area is ridiculous.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Legendadry - Harshlands wrote: »lmao at this threadb:chuckle. Dude Do-Alls ftw Always expect to be pk'd in cube if u want to do it. ur lvl 92 barb though i wonder what lvl was the archer that killed u. Anyhow you have to be on your toes in certain rooms of cube so expect people to go out and pk you. That doesnt make them a jerk for doing so, thats just how some ppl play the game.
I had Do-alls at the beginning. But I was unlucky, and hit those steadfast rooms
by the time I hit 47, I was fresh-out.
I said a little earlier that they were lvl 99 and 100 b:surrender I held them off for a while, but my HP doesnt last forever..
What makes them a Jerk is because they had absolutly no reason to kill =\ And I lost lots of coins, and my time getting to those rooms were wasted. They were completly inconsiderate.
I notice some people posting are from the PvP servers, so try and look at this from a PvE perspective. b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I've looked at this from a PvE perspective and I still think you're just a big cry-baby that needs to grow a pair. Those rooms are PK rooms which means you CAN PK in them. Get over your self.
If you played on my server I'd bur your charm up every chance I got. That's why I rolled on a PvP server. I love catching people hunting and hitting them with a stun then just letting the mob kill them. That way I don't get hours of infamy and the blacklist function keeps the QQing spam down.
Next time grow a pair and don't cry when you get PK'd in a PK enabled room.0 -
RobberHood - Lost City wrote: »I've looked at this from a PvE perspective and I still think you're just a big cry-baby that needs to grow a pair. Those rooms are PK rooms which means you CAN PK in them. Get over your self.
If you played on my server I'd bur your charm up every chance I got. That's why I rolled on a PvP server. I love catching people hunting and hitting them with a stun then just letting the mob kill them. That way I don't get hours of infamy and the blacklist function keeps the QQing spam down.
Next time grow a pair and don't cry when you get PK'd in a PK enabled room.
Blah blah blah blah, All i hear here is "TrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlameFlame"
You obviously dont get what I'm saying, and I'm not going to bother trying to explain it.b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
You are saying: "Hey! Why can I be PKed in there?"
And we are saying: "Because that's what it's like, it's (partially) PK enabled."
Then you say: "But that's wrong, PK costs me time and money"
and we say: "Yes, yes it does. That's the risk you take by going into the cube."
It's the (partial) replacement for the defunct arena. It's a place where us blue names can get some excitement.
And if that's not what you want to do, well, you can always avoid it.
GMs have gone as far as to clarify that some bits of the cube (such as the entry point) aren't meant to be PK enabled, and they'll issue warnings to people who PK there - but that the rest of it, yes, you're at risk of dying.
Same with, what's it called, the water event. Dragon Palace? That's PK too. If you don't want to get PKed, don't go to PK events. That includes (parts of) the cube.0 -
Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »You are saying: "Hey! Why can I be PKed in there?" No, I'm saying its Wrong to be able to Pk here.
And we are saying: "Because that's what it's like, it's (partially) PK enabled."
Then you say: "But that's wrong, PK costs me time and money" I say, Its unnecessary to PK in cube because there is No possible gain, or reason.
and we say: "Yes, yes it does. That's the risk you take by going into the cube."The risk I take by going into cube is rolling a 1 instead of 6, and Going from room 44 to 45.
It's the (partial) replacement for the defunct arena. It's a place where us blue names can get some excitement. If us Blue-named want excitement. We will either go into Pk mode, or do other things like FB's or whatever.
And if that's not what you want to do, well, you can always avoid it. I do it for the Exp, always for the exp.
GMs have gone as far as to clarify that some bits of the cube (such as the entry point) aren't meant to be PK enabled, and they'll issue warnings to people who PK there - but that the rest of it, yes, you're at risk of dying.
Same with, what's it called, the water event. Dragon Palace? That's PK too. If you don't want to get PKed, don't go to PK events. That includes (parts of) the cube. Dragon temple has no Exp reward similar to Cube, so its really only good for testing your Pk skills without any risk. Apart from charm use.
DT and Cube are very different.
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Yes it's unnecessary to PK in cube and yes there is no possible gain BUT you CAN do it and people WILL do it.0
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PartyAnimal - Harshlands wrote: »Yes it's unnecessary to PK in cube and yes there is no possible gain BUT you CAN do it and people WILL do it.
My original statement. Those people are pigs. *coughArcherscough*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Going to cube, along with some other events and instances like Vitenka said, carry a risk of getting PKed. You enter at your own risk, and if you get PKed, you really have no grounds to call other people insensitive or cruel. It's part of the game, and they do what they do. As long as they are not infringing upon any rules, there's really nothing to complain about.
Looking from a PVE perspective, I can see why you might be flustered. You're in there trying to get some exp when all of a sudden this guy comes and PKs you. You get booted out and you lose money, exp and time. That can be frustrating yes, but like i outlined above, by entering cube, you have already implicitly accepted that risk of being PKed by stepping into a PVP-enabled zone.
Just like how when I rolled a PVP server, I am assumed to have accepted the terms of of a PVP server, which happens to be being PKed a billion times when you hit lv 30, and another billion times more the levels to come. But i can't say "oh people are so cruel im just questing you have no reason to kill me." PVP is enabled, and people find it fun to kill me. So be it.
The same goes for you. PVP is a bit more restrictive there, but when you step into a PVP enabled area, you are already abiding by the customs of PVP. You're free game to anyone. Just because someone kills you for kicks doesn't mean they're jerks. They're just playing the game. Just because you don't like it doesnt automatically label them pigs. I don't like being PKed, but when i do, i don't rage about it or cuss them out. It's part of the game, move on from it and continue doing whatever you were before.
Like i said, if you really think PVP in cube is unnecessary, bring it to the suggestion thread and suggest that cube be made PVE.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
RawrzWolf - Sanctuary wrote: »My original statement. Those people are pigs. *coughArcherscough*
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Asperitas - Lost City wrote: »Going to cube, along with some other events and instances like Vitenka said, carry a risk of getting PKed. You enter at your own risk, and if you get PKed, you really have no grounds to call other people insensitive or cruel. It's part of the game, and they do what they do. As long as they are not infringing upon any rules, there's really nothing to complain about.
Looking from a PVE perspective, I can see why you might be flustered. You're in there trying to get some exp when all of a sudden this guy comes and PKs you. You get booted out and you lose money, exp and time. That can be frustrating yes, but like i outlined above, by entering cube, you have already implicitly accepted that risk of being PKed by stepping into a PVP-enabled zone.
Just like how when I rolled a PVP server, I am assumed to have accepted the terms of of a PVP server, which happens to be being PKed a billion times when you hit lv 30, and another billion times more the levels to come. But i can't say "oh people are so cruel im just questing you have no reason to kill me." PVP is enabled, and people find it fun to kill me. So be it.
The same goes for you. PVP is a bit more restrictive there, but when you step into a PVP enabled area, you are already abiding by the customs of PVP. You're free game to anyone. Just because someone kills you for kicks doesn't mean they're jerks. They're just playing the game. Just because you don't like it doesnt automatically label them pigs. I don't like being PKed, but when i do, i don't rage about it or cuss them out. It's part of the game, move on from it and continue doing whatever you were before.
Like i said, if you really think PVP in cube is unnecessary, bring it to the suggestion thread and suggest that cube be made PVE.
This has to be one of the first decent posts in this thread so far. Thank you.PartyAnimal - Harshlands wrote: »
This however. Is not.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Whether it's in a game or in real life, the majority of people are butt wipes. You just have to suck it up and deal back what you're given.Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.0
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I get it, you're the one who doesn't "get it". It is a GAME get over it and stop crying like a little baby. No one cares how much you spent to get where you were, no one cares how much of your precious charm was wasted, no one cares that you got PK'd by the uncaring mean archers, we're all just laughin' at the big ole cry-baby who can't stand it that they got PK'd0
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RobberHood - Lost City wrote: »I get it, you're the one who doesn't "get it". It is a GAME get over it and stop crying like a little baby. No one cares how much you spent to get where you were, no one cares how much of your precious charm was wasted, no one cares that you got PK'd by the uncaring mean archers, we're all just laughin' at the big ole cry-baby who can't stand it that they got PK'd
Keep that 5hit to yourself. Ok? Comments like "stop crying like a little baby" Aren't needed. So shut it. Troll elsewhere.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
As it has been brought up before, the cube being PVP is a risk that you will have to take if you want the ExP. I do, however, agree with Asperitas that you should bring it up in the Suggestions forum. The PVE servers are generally meant for people who just want to level and have a good time (with the exception of the high-levels who have already leveled and want to find joy in competing with other players in PVP). The cube should not be COMPLETELY PVE though. The people who already spend the money, or coins, to get Charms and good gear and WANT to PK, then the cube should remain PVP for them unless, of course, they change to PVE mode.
But, again, not everyone will change and they will still continue to PK people in the cube because it brings them joy to kill an opponent that either can't fight back because they are too low of a level, or just don't want to fight back because they would rather level and enjoy their playtime. But that's when you think: "Wow...I wonder what kind of a life this person has if they get joy out of killing people in a game and think that they are all high and mighty for killing some pixels." (though, keep in mind I do not think this question with EVERY PKer in the game, just the obnoxious ones who camp out and hunt low-level players in the cube, or even on a PVP server.)0 -
Trista_Zel - Dreamweaver wrote: »Whether it's in a game or in real life, the majority of people are butt wipes. You just have to suck it up and deal back what you're given.RobberHood - Lost City wrote: »I get it, you're the one who doesn't "get it". It is a GAME get over it and stop crying like a little baby. No one cares how much you spent to get where you were, no one cares how much of your precious charm was wasted, no one cares that you got PK'd by the uncaring mean archers, we're all just laughin' at the big ole cry-baby who can't stand it that they got PK'd
My point proven. b:surrenderCourage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.0 -
If you can't handle being in PVP then don't go into the CUBE unless you are willing to take the chance.
Making a suggestion is the right thing to do in the suggestion area.
Heck, I have to make that choice everyday when I exit Arch West Gate. "How long will I last out there before I get one-shotted?"
*starts timer
1sec, 2..................55sec
*dead
"Woot, made it 30 seconds longer this time" b:victorytatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.0 -
Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »If you can't handle being in PVP then don't go into the CUBE unless you are willing to take the chance.
Making a suggestion is the right thing to do in the suggestion area.
Heck, I have to make that choice everyday when I exit Arch West Gate. "How long will I last out there before I get one-shotted?"
*starts timer
1sec, 2..................55sec
*dead
"Woot, made it 30 seconds longer this time" b:victory
Haha, I like that you're positive about it. Most people would be like: "ARGH! YOU STUPID PKERS, GO PK WITH PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WANT TO PK!"
PKer: "Then don't have a white name." (or in some cases they would say: "then go play on a PVE server.")0 -
RawrzWolf - Sanctuary wrote: »Just sharing some of my thoughts..
This game needs more kind and thoughtful people. I seem to run into all the A-holes of PW's society. <.<
For example, Not naming anybody here but recently in cube Ive been hassled beyond belief. First, I was in room 47, Without any Do-Alls or Dice tickets (lucky me) So i sat around for hours, waiting for someone to come in so i could possibly buy Do-all's off them. Few people come and go, all saying "Sorry, none" dissapointing.
Then, an archer came in and started firing at me! Killed me in a few shots.
That archer had NO right or reason to do that, and if i had thought of it soon enough. I would have screened and Ticketed. I spent well over 800k to get my **** into room 47, for nothing. (Cold blooded murder)
This happened two other times as well after that. Once in the VERY..bored room.
An archer started shooting at me for NO reason.. again. Idiot killed my charm (200k hp worth) and killed me. For nothing!
And again, in Room 45 (Open sesame...please?) The same archer from the first story came in.
Now she had two choices... Help me kill the dog (Which would be kind) Or kill me. She killed me, of course.
This really infuriates me. It sickens me to think that people would be this evil.
Think about other player's feelings for god's sake. Your not the only one who matters
Those hours i spent in cube, those hundreds of Thousands of coins And Charm. Gone for nothing because of these player's inconsideration towards me, and very likely other people.
These two players should be banned in my opinion (Again, not naming names, and I know i should have SS'd)
They are the most inconsiderate, cruelest players I have ever come across. No doubt there are other ones out there.
For the people reading this who are like the Archers in Cube. Someone should slap you. Hard.
Take into consideration what we've done to get where we are in Cube, or the items we might drop in Pk mode. And do the decent thing! Do the kind thing! Ask yourself, Do you have any reason to kill the person? Do you have any gain? Has this person done something terrible against you?
Think about that.. >:|
And for the people who are like me, the helpful type who strive to make the PW community a better place.
b:victory Good on you
Sorry about your luck. This is exactly why I won't attempt the cube. I know there is a very slim chance i will actually make it to the end as a level 69 archer so I don't waste my time or money trying it, although if it wasn't riddled with pk I would love to do it.
When I was younger, I used to think most people were "good" or had good intentions and only a few were bad. Now that I am older, I believe people have an inherently evil nature and have to work at it to be "good" kind and courteous. I think there is several reasons to kill in the cube. Not knowing the level of the other player and fear of being killed yourself I think is a valid reason. I think If I was strong enough, and I did the cube I might do the same. Just kill everyone I see, believing they would scumbag me the first chance they had anyway. It seems that is how most players operate, This is why I solo the game. Other people tend ruin my fun, or rather I let them sometimes. I don't try to ruin other players fun or pay forward evil deeds and if I saw a level 4x char trying to proceed I would help them and leave them be. I do agree just because you can, doesn't mean you should. But, not everyone owns a moral compass or is kind to other people who are not as high level or as strong as them. I help all players which I can and treat them the same. Behind the graphics, they are peole too just trying to have a bit of fun. I have only recently started to network a little in recent weeks. But well, I don't do pvp for many of the same reasons. I don't want to make tons of enemies and deal with all the alphamales and such. I know I will just get repeatedly kill dominated by level 90 players and lose my stuff since it is not bound. I want to use the gear on other chars so binding is not an option. I will lose my gear. So I stick to dueling with nice players from my BH parties who can handle losing and people who won't boast about winning.
Best wishes in the cube next time. Regards0 -
OP, live in the current situation, what happened, happened.
Personally, I would have done the same because life is not fair.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] b:shocked OMG HERB!!!!!!0 -
Foltern - Sanctuary wrote: »Sorry about your luck. This is exactly why I won't attempt the cube. I know there is a very slim chance i will actually make it to the end as a level 69 archer so I don't waste my time or money trying it, although if it wasn't riddled with pk I would love to do it.
When I was younger, I used to think most people were "good" or had good intentions and only a few were bad. Now that I am older, I believe people have an inherently evil nature and have to work at it to be "good" kind and courteous. I think there is several reasons to kill in the cube. Not knowing the level of the other player and fear of being killed yourself I think is a valid reason. I think If I was strong enough, and I did the cube I might do the same. Just kill everyone I see, believing they would scumbag me the first chance they had anyway. It seems that is how most players operate, This is why I solo the game. Other people tend ruin my fun. I have only recently started to network a little in recent weeks. But well, I don't do pvp for many of the same reasons. I don't want to make tons of enemies and deal with all the alphamales and such. So I stick to dueling with nice players from my BH parties who can handle losing and people who won't boast about winning.
Best wishes in the cube next time. Regards
b:thanks Thanks, All the best to you as well.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I changed it and made it longer. And no problem. \m/_ <(o.o)> _\m/
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RawrzWolf - Sanctuary wrote: »Then, an archer came in and started firing at me! Killed me in a few shots.
That archer had NO right or reason to do that, and if i had thought of it soon enough. I would have screened and Ticketed. I spent well over 800k to get my **** into room 47, for nothing. (Cold blooded murder)
This happened two other times as well after that. Once in the VERY..bored room.
An archer started shooting at me for NO reason.. again. Idiot killed my charm (200k hp worth) and killed me. For nothing!
And again, in Room 45 (Open sesame...please?) The same archer from the first story came in.
Now she had two choices... Help me kill the dog (Which would be kind) Or kill me. She killed me, of course.
These two players should be banned in my opinion (Again, not naming names, and I know i should have SS'd)
It may be inconsiderate, but the PWI team made those PK-enabled rooms, it is no accident. They do have a right, and no it is not bannable.
That being said, it's still not nice and I don't condone such actions, but it happens.hai2u0 -
LOL
HAHAHA
This is just a game. Stop over analyzing it and making people and the world out to be an evil place.
Just because you can, does make it ok. Why??? Because this is just a GAME.
I don't pk because I am an evil person. Stop generalizing the public because you guys are so Carebear about everything.
Take your CrackerJack popcorn box Phycologist Degree elsewhere and just enjoy the game or move on to something that makes you happy.tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.0 -
Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »LOL
HAHAHA
This is just a game. Stop over analyzing it and making people and the world out to be an evil place.
Just because you can, does make it ok. Why??? Because this is just a GAME.
I don't pk because I am an evil person. Stop generalizing the public because you guys are so Carebear about everything.
Take your CrackerJack popcorn box Phycologist Degree elsewhere and just enjoy the game or move on to something that makes you happy.
Shoo troll. b:bye
Look around, the world is an evil place.Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »Stop over analyzing it and making people and the world out to be an evil place.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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