LA Build..I have Questions..

StudHeal - Harshlands
StudHeal - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Cleric
Hey everyone i have just switched to a LA build..Currently Level 16b:victory

Well so far I have 20 Dex & Str and 50 Mag.

Well here are some of my questions..

Will I level slower as a LA?
Will I be beaten by AA at 70+?
Will My Damage Suffer a whole lot?
Will I be able to AoE Grind at 39+?

Here are some Equipment questions..

Should I buy Equips with Sockets?
Should I Worry About any certain element?
Should I Gem HP?
Should I Gem Phys Def?
Should I Gem Mag. Def?
Should I Gem to a certain element?
Should I have a LA & a AA Set?

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Well if you guys could awnser my questions it would be greatly appriciatedb:surrender

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  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Honestly a LA build cleric isnt a good idea. You sacrifice too much magic, which in returns sacrifices mana in which you need to heal your wounded party members. Pure magic build (1str 9 magic every 2 lvls) or Vitality Magic build (1str 1vit 8 magic every 2 lvls) have the best heals. And better heals means a safer party and a safer party means a safer cleric. As for your question about gems.... shard with HP (citrine shards) you can do physical defense shards (garnet) if you wish, but citrine would be better. Magic defense shards would be a waste since a pure arcane build cleric has insane magic defense anyways... Evasion shards and single element shards are also a waste.

    For 70+ yes a LA cleric would be beaten by an AA cleric. LA has less magic defense, there for you would be more vunerable to the metal attacks.

    On my cleric I started aoe grinding at lvl 40 on Pennier Sharptooths (lvl 45 flowers)
    I used razor feathers, iron heart and purify.
    I also had full wood resistance gear on while i was grinding. AA of course.
    I could hold 10 flowers or more at once.
    >.<
  • Rillien - Heavens Tear
    Rillien - Heavens Tear Posts: 569 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Hey everyone i have just switched to a LA build..Currently Level 16b:victory

    Well so far I have 20 Dex & Str and 50 Mag.

    Well here are some of my questions..

    Will I level slower as a LA?
    Will I be beaten by AA at 70+?
    Will My Damage Suffer a whole lot?
    Will I be able to AoE Grind at 39+?

    Here are some Equipment questions..

    Should I buy Equips with Sockets?
    Should I Worry About any certain element?
    Should I Gem HP?
    Should I Gem Phys Def?
    Should I Gem Mag. Def?
    Should I Gem to a certain element?
    Should I have a LA & a AA Set?

    Support your awnsers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Well if you guys could awnser my questions it would be greatly appriciatedb:surrender

    Love, Vargas b:kiss

    Some basic answers for you:

    As a whole leveling isn't that slow regardless. You will take 1-2 extra hits to kill mobs, but nobody grinds these days and you're going to have BH fairly soon which is the same exp for everyone. So nope, not much difference in speed [a little slower but nothing to complain about].

    Yes you will be beaten by arcane at 70+. You won't have the health or mdef to survive hard hits. Wizzies shouldn't be a problem because they're easy to kill until late, but you will die vs. other clerics most likely. Of course skill is also a factor, but expect magic to hurt a lot more. Arcane is generally advised at 90. You will be considerably better able to survive stunlocks, archers, and buy yourself time to run from them if needed however. 90+ of course it's all about skill and refines and money.

    Damage will start suffering at lvl 70ish--or at least that's when it gets noticeable in grinding. But like I said, rarely do people actually grind anymore b:surrender and in healing if you're good people can't tell the difference.

    I would not advise aoe grind at lvl 39 because you do not have one of the critical skills for aoe grinding--tempest. You also need a higher leveld purify (3 or up usually). Most people start once they hit 59-60 because that skill helps considerably. And you probably hardly have razor feathers leveled at all due to trying to keep buffs and heals up to date. BUT aoe grinding is very doable on poison mobs at 60+ as LA. IH is magical, no matter what armour you wear. So is purify.

    Summary of equips
    Get as many sockets as you can without wasting money on socket stones until 90+. Refine +1 (costs like nothing, just do it with mirages) early on (50s) for extra hp. WEAR A HP HELMET. Look for one that gives you the most possible. Always shard citrine. Wear mdef/or carry mdef belts if you feel you are lacking in it. Maybe wear a cheap arcane set for grinding or just pick up arcane quest reward stuff. Fully investing in two armours is costly.

    Hope that helped. Good luck.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Hey everyone i have just switched to a LA build..Currently Level 16b:victory

    Well so far I have 20 Dex & Str and 50 Mag.

    Well here are some of my questions..

    Will I level slower as a LA?No you wont
    Will I be beaten by AA at 70+?No you wont
    Will My Damage Suffer a whole lot?In PwE at higher levels yes, but you get somewhat of higher crit rate so it isnt that bad.In Pk its like 250 dmg difference.
    Will I be able to AoE Grind at 39+?No AoE grinds until lv60+ (idk if anything changed)

    Here are some Equipment questions..

    Should I buy Equips with Sockets?Do'h yes, even AA does that (lv60+)
    Should I Worry About any certain element?Avoid metal mobs b:surrender
    Should I Gem HP?HP for LA
    Should I Gem Phys Def?No
    Should I Gem Mag. Def?You can switch to AA when you need to
    Should I Gem to a certain element?Again you can get robes for that (if you put to magic 3 points ever level)
    Should I have a LA & a AA Set?Would be good to have, if you gonna AoE grind and Pk vs our dear wizzies

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    Well if you guys could awnser my questions it would be greatly appriciatedb:surrender

    Love, Vargas b:kiss

    It's proven that LA does not suk (tbh i am not LA).
    Healing is not that low, tho you do have less of an MP pool then AA, but who cares you gain survivability vs psy attacks.

    And god if someone comes with the plume shell speech.....PPL no one wants to sit down after 3 mobs, or tick charms and burn APPO stuff for that....
    b:dirty
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    as a LA cleric i will answer ur questions from my own experiences, and not from rumors as most.
    Hey everyone i have just switched to a LA build..Currently Level 16b:victory

    Well so far I have 20 Dex & Str and 50 Mag.

    Well here are some of my questions..

    Will I level slower as a LA? at early lvls, yes. untill u get higher crit rate
    Will I be beaten by AA at 70+? personally i don't as i can sleep, spark and plume shot. but for all cleric vs clerics, it's a charm burning fight.
    Will My Damage Suffer a whole lot? u will have weaker heals, but it's still enough to solo heal. as for dmg, the crit rate hlps out alot later on
    Will I be able to AoE Grind at 39+? yes, ppl forget that just because ur LA, doesn't mean u can't have grinding robes.

    Here are some Equipment questions..

    Should I buy Equips with Sockets? up to u
    Should I Worry About any certain element? get equipment w/ all elements
    Should I Gem HP? i do, but u get alot of ur hp from refines too
    Should I Gem Phys Def? no need
    Should I Gem Mag. Def? i know some LA clerics that use em, but i perfer hp
    Should I Gem to a certain element? for ur grinding robes, use wood res just like any other cleric
    Should I have a LA & a AA Set? i carry my LA, and grinding robes wich also have -chan and +mp recovery so i can stend less time meditating

    Support your awnsers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Well if you guys could awnser my questions it would be greatly appriciatedb:surrender

    Love, Vargas b:kiss

    now here's some things to know that others r false on. ppl say u loss "alot" of mag deff w/ LA: False. w/ ur mag points and LA's mid mdef, u only lose about 5-10% reduction, and u gain 30-40% phys reduction. that is because of diminishing returns, once u hit a certian point, it takes much more to add reduction to a def.

    this is how my deffences changed the day i switched from pure to LA (lvl 76) w/ only my buffs
    pure mag deffence:
    phys deff: about 30%
    mag deff: about 75%
    LA deffence:
    phys deff: 65%
    mag deff: 70%

    i'm sure im missing some stuff, but have any questions just ask, ill tell u wat i know from experience, and not from something a oracle nub told me they thought ^^.

    edit: also to those that keep saying pure is better cause they have the best heals. i perfer to be the one standing and healing, not laying on the ground bragging about my heals. thus the better cleric is a living one.
  • Goldymarg - Heavens Tear
    Goldymarg - Heavens Tear Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Honestly a LA build cleric isnt a good idea. You sacrifice too much magic, which in returns sacrifices mana in which you need to heal your wounded party members. Pure magic build (1str 9 magic every 2 lvls) or Vitality Magic build (1str 1vit 8 magic every 2 lvls) have the best heals. And better heals means a safer party and a safer party means a safer cleric. As for your question about gems.... shard with HP (citrine shards) you can do physical defense shards (garnet) if you wish, but citrine would be better. Magic defense shards would be a waste since a pure arcane build cleric has insane magic defense anyways... Evasion shards and single element shards are also a waste.

    For 70+ yes a LA cleric would be beaten by an AA cleric. LA has less magic defense, there for you would be more vunerable to the metal attacks.

    On my cleric I started aoe grinding at lvl 40 on Pennier Sharptooths (lvl 45 flowers)
    I used razor feathers, iron heart and purify.
    I also had full wood resistance gear on while i was grinding. AA of course.
    I could hold 10 flowers or more at once.

    A light armor cleric can function just as well as a pure build cleric, it just depends on your gameplay. The reduction of points on magic can also be compensated by wearing rings and magic weapons, belts and necklaces which add magic points. If we look at it this way we can always compensate for a loss in any points, and next to that we have the shards which add defense or attack.

    In his case he's looking for a LA cleric, so in that kind of situation magical defense shards would not be a bad idea, while I'm not a big supporter of the LA build I do see it's advantages in pvp and with physical mobs.

    A friends of mine is a LA cleric who'se 90+ and generally he's a good match for other AA clerics. Due to that I don't think you should underestimate a LA cleric just because they don't have enough mag def.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited November 2009

    edit: also to those that keep saying pure is better cause they have the best heals. i perfer to be the one standing and healing, not laying on the ground bragging about my heals. thus the better cleric is a living one.

    You LA love to pull that one of the bag, dont ya?
    A normal AA cleric wont drop dead while healing, that is only a myth to scare children.
    b:dirty
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    now here's some things to know that others r false on. ppl say u loss "alot" of mag deff w/ LA: False. w/ ur mag points and LA's mid mdef, u only lose about 5-10% reduction, and u gain 30-40% phys reduction. that is because of diminishing returns, once u hit a certian point, it takes much more to add reduction to a def.
    thats true till a certain lvl. if you get end game when you have to put hp or p.def shards and also choose your 9x gold gear, AA is much better than LA. AA with the same magic atk as LA, has better m.def/p.def and hp than LA. use pwcalc, thats pretty accurate
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    kenlee wrote: »
    thats true till a certain lvl. if you get end game when you have to put hp or p.def shards and also choose your 9x gold gear, AA is much better than LA. AA with the same magic atk as LA, has better m.def/p.def and hp than LA. use pwcalc, thats pretty accurate

    yes, at "end game" the dimenishing returns is even worse that LA and AA will have pretty much the same mag deff. and if sharded w/ pdeff, same pdeff. but less or equal hp. as being LA i can shard w/ hp shards and not pdeff, and i get more hp in refines than AA. the only way u'd have more hp w/ that set up is a vit build and ur gimped even more than LA im dmg and equal in healing power. so i chose to have pants instead of a dress. btw, who uses gold when green gives more hp.
    You LA love to pull that one of the bag, dont ya?
    A normal AA cleric wont drop dead while healing, that is only a myth to scare children.

    funny u bring this up. just a few weeks ago i was starting a 1-3 and a AA cleric was telling me i was fail for not being pure mag like him, and when we got to SB guess who was on the ground at 25% hp. b:bye

    remember, no one is useful dead, no matter how high ur dmg is.

    and like i said, i speak from my own experiences. not wat i heard from the bum on the corner.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited November 2009




    funny u bring this up. just a few weeks ago i was starting a 1-3 and a AA cleric was telling me i was fail for not being pure mag like him, and when we got to SB guess who was on the ground at 25% hp. b:bye

    remember, no one is useful dead, no matter how high ur dmg is.

    and like i said, i speak from my own experiences. not wat i heard from the bum on the corner.

    Said normal AA cleric, not a wanna be cleric. (if you didnt notice i defend LA build in every topic >.<)
    b:dirty
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    just an example, unbuffed lvl 99 cleric
    its very hard to make a LA build with hp/m.def/p.def/m.atk similar to this one
    you have to sacrifice something or more than that to get near this arcane build
  • ewingoil
    ewingoil Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Why all the LA threads lately?

    to the OP if you made as far as 16 with robes stick with them as most of us have and still do.I like the LA 80 set but that doesn't mean I am going with it.
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    kenlee wrote: »
    just an example, unbuffed lvl 99 cleric
    its very hard to make a LA build with hp/m.def/p.def/m.atk similar to this one
    you have to sacrifice something or more than that to get near this arcane build

    congrats. i can over + on armor u will never get, unless u r donald trump or have no life. also, who buys a load of reset notes every time they get a new peice of armor so they can take extra points out of str.

    have fun chasing ur dream in ur parents garage. b:bye
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ...have you lost your mind?

    most people just use tt 90 green for arcane

    your shards cost more than 2 months of rent each

    i could go on but really...

    are you on a private server?
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    congrats. i can over + on armor u will never get, unless u r donald trump or have no life. also, who buys a load of reset notes every time they get a new peice of armor so they can take extra points out of str.

    have fun chasing ur dream in ur parents garage. b:bye
    i told you to make a similar LA build
    you will see that LA build is much worse than AA in every aspect
    some parts/shards/orbs i'll get with veno alt np

    and dont have to insult others which might be older as your dad
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    kenlee wrote: »
    i told you to make a similar LA build
    you will see that LA build is much worse than AA in every aspect
    some parts/shards/orbs i'll get with veno alt np

    and dont have to insult others which might be older as your dad

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bd9f5f9f3638c598

    figured i'd "over do it" a bit too as u said similar.
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bd9f5f9f3638c598

    figured i'd "over do it" a bit too as u said similar.
    sure...

    the funny thing is, my build is somehow easy to get. like 4 items are easier to buy with this event, others are crafted. your items.. nvm.
    if i make an AA with that kind of items, refined +12 and primeval stones... it will be much better than your LA. sad, isnt it?

    here it is something similar to your build (means almost your kind of items)
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=3043dc9f1a1e24a9
    what do we see: better defences, only a bit less HP (~200 at 16k doesnt matter) but everybody know that LA gain better HP after you refine +8 or higher. as i told you +8 isnt that hard to get with all this events but good luck with +12
    i used your weapon, yes you use one with + critical so i used too since you will never see that ever but has magic attack for stats. in a real case i'll use buddha leaf beause that kind of weapon i can get it and it has p.def and also HP.
    as you can see only the helm has garnets. if you use garnets on more items in my AA build, p.def will go much higher for not much hp in minus. i adjusted m.atk around your m.atk but AA is flexible with Vit./Mag. points and its easier to swap around to your playstyle.
    there is no point in going LA after 90, when you set in mind your end game gear you should consider going arcane. if you want more m.atk, you can have it since you are not limited by dex/str. if you want more hp and min Mag., you can also have it as AA. with less refines and cheaper stones AA is much better, with +12 LA ofc you have similar hp but also less defences and not flexible between mag/vit
  • Vivre - Harshlands
    Vivre - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    You'd think that by those insane levels, a cleric can figure out for herself what build she wants to be :3

    I think most questions on the forums are from newbie clerics... so can we just make some reasonable (6x-7x) AA vs LA comparisons?
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  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    You'd think that by those insane levels, a cleric can figure out for herself what build she wants to be :3

    I think most questions on the forums are from newbie clerics... so can we just make some reasonable (6x-7x) AA vs LA comparisons?
    at those 'insane' lvls most will stay as before

    at 6x-7x, well nobody use shards or refines. since AA has the worst p.def/m.def ratio w/o shards and refines LA has much better p.def and m.def isnt that much of a problem as it is at lvl 100. LA works just fine till you can afford shards and refines t later lvls
  • StudHeal - Harshlands
    StudHeal - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    kenlee wrote: »
    at those 'insane' lvls most will stay as before

    at 6x-7x, well nobody use shards or refines. since AA has the worst p.def/m.def ratio w/o shards and refines LA has much better p.def and m.def isnt that much of a problem as it is at lvl 100. LA works just fine till you can afford shards and refines t later lvls


    Yea I think i''m going to stay LA for awile until..idk..4x or 5x..what do you think?
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  • Rillien - Heavens Tear
    Rillien - Heavens Tear Posts: 569 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    You will be well served, on a PvP server, to stick with LA for awhile. It will come in handy against archers, veno pets, BMs, Barb. Wizards are too weak early on to be threatening. Try to take advantage of what you already have--stack crit for even better spike damage.

    You will be absolutely fine with whatever you choose, provided that you learn how to play it well. The 99+ absurd armour debates are a little irrelevant...just have fun and if you hate your choice, you can always reroll or restat. Good luck!
  • StudHeal - Harshlands
    StudHeal - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    You will be well served, on a PvP server, to stick with LA for awhile. It will come in handy against archers, veno pets, BMs, Barb. Wizards are too weak early on to be threatening. Try to take advantage of what you already have--stack crit for even better spike damage.

    You will be absolutely fine with whatever you choose, provided that you learn how to play it well. The 99+ absurd armour debates are a little irrelevant...just have fun and if you hate your choice, you can always reroll or restat. Good luck!

    Lol thats the most true Thing i have ever readb:surrender

    I think My LA will be just fine...
    I'm going to be getting gold soon so..yea..gona get some Shards..and Sockets...make some ok gear..i'm not spending all my $$ on armor..Gotta get a wep..b:thanks

    Thanks all b:cute
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  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    you can stay LA till 90 or so when you decide to use shards and refines
    using those at 4x-5x is a waste of money since those lvls go quick and nobody gonna buy at the price that you invest
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    kenlee wrote: »
    sure...

    the funny thing is, my build is somehow easy to get. like 4 items are easier to buy with this event, others are crafted. your items.. nvm.
    if i make an AA with that kind of items, refined +12 and primeval stones... it will be much better than your LA. sad, isnt it?

    here it is something similar to your build (means almost your kind of items)
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=3043dc9f1a1e24a9
    what do we see: better defences, only a bit less HP (~200 at 16k doesnt matter) but everybody know that LA gain better HP after you refine +8 or higher. as i told you +8 isnt that hard to get with all this events but good luck with +12
    i used your weapon, yes you use one with + critical so i used too since you will never see that ever but has magic attack for stats. in a real case i'll use buddha leaf beause that kind of weapon i can get it and it has p.def and also HP.
    as you can see only the helm has garnets. if you use garnets on more items in my AA build, p.def will go much higher for not much hp in minus. i adjusted m.atk around your m.atk but AA is flexible with Vit./Mag. points and its easier to swap around to your playstyle.
    there is no point in going LA after 90, when you set in mind your end game gear you should consider going arcane. if you want more m.atk, you can have it since you are not limited by dex/str. if you want more hp and min Mag., you can also have it as AA. with less refines and cheaper stones AA is much better, with +12 LA ofc you have similar hp but also less defences and not flexible between mag/vit

    so ur saying it's cheaper to buy citrine shards and garnets shards both, also to have a reset scroll every time u want to change ur armor so u can keep up w/ LA? interesting. never knew that was cheaper than just spending a few points in dex and str.

    nice to see how ppl don't read wat they ramble on about. b:bye
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    so ur saying it's cheaper to buy citrine shards and garnets shards both, also to have a reset scroll every time u want to change ur armor so u can keep up w/ LA? interesting. never knew that was cheaper than just spending a few points in dex and str.

    nice to see how ppl don't read wat they ramble on about. b:bye
    once you set up in mind your gear you want to wear you will probably need only 1 or max 3 (in case you go from LA to AA) reset scrolls.
    do you really change your armor so often at 90+? think about what you want to get at 99 from 90, its not hard to distribute points if you know what you will wear. being AA already is more flexible, ppl dont put so many points in vit, they already know the exact number for str. so AA only have to pass around points between vit and mag, depends of their playstyle. if they want all their extra points in vit, so be it.
    also being LA isnt easier, you want all the extra stats from gear to put it in mag because you are limited to low mag as LA. again, you will restat probably at 90 and if you have no idea what you will wear at 100 (like you do) you will need a bit of restat at 100.
    being poor at 90+ as a cleric isnt a excuse at all, its just stupid or plain lazy.
    what about citrine and garnets? they are at the same price

    once again, let's just keep it civilized. come with arguments not insults
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    kenlee wrote: »
    once you set up in mind your gear you want to wear you will probably need only 1 or max 3 (in case you go from LA to AA) reset scrolls.
    do you really change your armor so often at 90+? think about what you want to get at 99 from 90, its not hard to distribute points if you know what you will wear. being AA already is more flexible, ppl dont put so many points in vit, they already know the exact number for str. so AA only have to pass around points between vit and mag, depends of their playstyle. if they want all their extra points in vit, so be it.
    also being LA isnt easier, you want all the extra stats from gear to put it in mag because you are limited to low mag as LA. again, you will restat probably at 90 and if you have no idea what you will wear at 100 (like you do) you will need a bit of restat at 100.
    being poor at 90+ as a cleric isnt a excuse at all, its just stupid or plain lazy.
    what about citrine and garnets? they are at the same price

    once again, let's just keep it civilized. come with arguments not insults

    take a poll and see how many lvl 90's restat their added points, as not every peice of armor is based on a 10 lvl track. so ur not garenteed to get a full set at 90, and be set till 100, then get a full 100 set till 110, ect... not to mention there is no "end game" gear as the game will update and have new "end game" gear till they release another set. *note: the expansion is coming out w/ a gear upgrading system so add that to ur "end game" gear b:bye

    also, if i did restat my added points, i would put them in mag as i have enough survivability being LA that i can go for more dmg out put, unlike ur AA build that needs the extra points into vit just to get close to the suvivability of the LA build.


    LA has enough mag to use latest mag weapon, and thats more than enough, the added crit rate just increases it's over all DPS. making it more versitial then the vit build. also unlike the heavy, i don't "rely" on +str/dex/mag points to wear my gear. not to mantion u say i have low/limited mag as LA, yet u throw ur points into vit o.o

    y would i need to restat at all if i'm LA for lvl 100? u can see the future and LA will change?! *GASP* not to mention i'd much rather us my $ getting my demon skills rather than spending them on reset notes b:victory
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    there is no lvl 110 and also there is no point to lvl past 100
    also there is end game gear, when players are tired of farming or what not.
    i know this game for long time and i've played for almost 2 years, yet i see that most ppl stay with HH90 but not all. same gear for so much time.
    in this new expansion i only saw weapons and ffs a reset note is almost as cheap as a big charm, yet you use them only a couple of times in your pw career.

    an AA build can have the same amount of crit rate as LA minus the crit that you get from dex. yes you put points in vit because there is no reason to use so many points in mag but depends on playstyle.. AA can use all the amount of vit points in mag for pve or the extra mag in vit if you go pvp end game.
    and again you seems to not understant. i already presented to you with pwcal, AA build has better p.def/m.def not because of the amount of vit its because of the gear with shards. as a LA you dont use vit as a AA build so so you have to use citrine to get that hp.. thats the same thing as using vit as arcane
    not only that AA can have better defences and same hp but there is anothe build better than LA. a mix of 2 HA and 2 AA has like double p.def and like the same m.def as LA. this is another story and too expensve for most of us.
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    kenlee wrote: »
    there is no lvl 110 and also there is no point to lvl past 100
    also there is end game gear, when players are tired of farming or what not.
    i know this game for long time and i've played for almost 2 years, yet i see that most ppl stay with HH90 but not all. same gear for so much time.
    in this new expansion i only saw weapons and ffs a reset note is almost as cheap as a big charm, yet you use them only a couple of times in your pw career.

    an AA build can have the same amount of crit rate as LA minus the crit that you get from dex. yes you put points in vit because there is no reason to use so many points in mag but depends on playstyle.. AA can use all the amount of vit points in mag for pve or the extra mag in vit if you go pvp end game.
    and again you seems to not understant. i already presented to you with pwcal, AA build has better p.def/m.def not because of the amount of vit its because of the gear with shards. as a LA you dont use vit as a AA build so so you have to use citrine to get that hp.. thats the same thing as using vit as arcane
    not only that AA can have better defences and same hp but there is anothe build better than LA. a mix of 2 HA and 2 AA has like double p.def and like the same m.def as LA. this is another story and too expensve for most of us.

    ROFLMAO!!!

    this wall of text just proves that noobs think they know everything from rumors they hear.

    u should try playing the class and talk from experience, not wat u heard and pwcalc b:bye
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    yes ROFLMAO, thats what you do when you have no arguments
    i've played this game for long time and also tried 3-4 classes not just one. for ppl that have no experience there is also other methods to test their builds

    but sorry i have the feeling that i've been trolled by a kid and i already said what ppl needed to see
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Hey everyone i have just switched to a LA build..Currently Level 16b:victory

    Well so far I have 20 Dex & Str and 50 Mag.

    Well here are some of my questions..

    Will I level slower as a LA?
    no

    Will I be beaten by AA at 70+?
    depends on your own skill really

    Will My Damage Suffer a whole lot?
    not to a considerable degree, it will be a tad lower tho.

    Will I be able to AoE Grind at 39+?
    At this lvl you should be busy with quests. You can grind but questing gives considerally more exp and you need to kill mobs anyway

    Here are some Equipment questions..

    Should I buy Equips with Sockets?DO
    Should I Worry About any certain element?NOT
    Should I Gem HP?EVEN
    Should I Gem Phys Def?TOUCH
    Should I Gem Mag. Def?THESE
    Should I Gem to a certain element?TILL Lv60+

    Should I have a LA & a AA Set?
    This is preference. If you are attentive enough you can go arcane. Some pple just dont like it cause its "squishy" but all you really need to do is pay attention to your surroundings
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  • Ewings - Heavens Tear
    Ewings - Heavens Tear Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I have a few simple suggestions:

    If you can afford to refine your weapon well go for LA, it roks in PVP, but without a decent weapon the heals fail, have seen many ppl make that mistake.

    Otherwise both AA and LA are good builds. Although many people say LA catches up to Dmg to AA later on in the game due to crit, But thats not completely true since AA builds starts having close to 15 percent crit themselves and massive base dmg.

    But LA definately lasts longer in battle.

    Incase you are wondering: I am AA and have an LA cleric too.