better for pvp sword or axes

This is the best description I have seen on this forums by Bobncut:

"I have a little different take on the difference between the skill trees.

Axe: High STR, wide weapon damage range (so, high peak damage - which is how you win in PvP against charms), circular AOEs. This path may be most what people think of as a classic warrior - wading in and doing a lot of damage. People who play this style well, tend to rely A LOT on skills. They like to grind by rounding up a crowd of mobs and spamming AOE skills until the mobs or they die. They live for the high spike of damage during PvP (and don't talk much about all the low damage draws they get in between those).

At the other extreme is Fist: High DEX, consistent lower damage per hit with a very fast natural attack rate. Skills in this tree are more useful as an infrequent helper to a flurry of normal attacks. This makes normal PvE extremely easy - pick a mob, hit a skill, watch as your toon goes slap-happy and frequently crits the mob to death. While that kind of PvE may not level as fast as the Axe AOE grinds (that really kick in by late 60s), it is extremely efficient. You build up Chi very fast, so you can use sutra or spark erupts more often for even more efficiency. In PvP, the spark erupts or crits are the fist tree's hope for winning. Higher DEX means higher accuracy and evasion, too, so this build is actually more like an archer (where an axe-type is more like a barb) in terms of classes it is strong and weak against. It is probably the only style that can think reasonably about light armor at mid to high levels - relying on evasion to protect against physical attacks and focusing more on the magic.

Sword and Pole are between these. Sword is closer to Fist (low reliance on skills, but a slower higher-peaking weapon for when you do) and Pole is closer to Axe (with a high reliance on skills, but a high enough DPS for normal attack grinding when you want to). Both of these middle types also gain some limited range attack ability and a knock-back skill. Pole has linear AOE, but not really enough to do AOE grinding. Sword has a massive-damage ultimate attack, but how often are you going to use that? Basically, these middle styles are for people who really like the flexibility of the blademaster class as they have even more of the good-at-everything-but-great-at-nothing aspect than Axe or Fist. Or, you could say, they are safer ways to do what Axe or Fist specialize in."

Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »

This is the best description I have seen on this forums by Bobncut:

"I have a little different take on the difference between the skill trees.

Axe: High STR, wide weapon damage range (so, high peak damage - which is how you win in PvP against charms), circular AOEs. This path may be most what people think of as a classic warrior - wading in and doing a lot of damage. People who play this style well, tend to rely A LOT on skills. They like to grind by rounding up a crowd of mobs and spamming AOE skills until the mobs or they die. They live for the high spike of damage during PvP (and don't talk much about all the low damage draws they get in between those).

At the other extreme is Fist: High DEX, consistent lower damage per hit with a very fast natural attack rate. Skills in this tree are more useful as an infrequent helper to a flurry of normal attacks. This makes normal PvE extremely easy - pick a mob, hit a skill, watch as your toon goes slap-happy and frequently crits the mob to death. While that kind of PvE may not level as fast as the Axe AOE grinds (that really kick in by late 60s), it is extremely efficient. You build up Chi very fast, so you can use sutra or spark erupts more often for even more efficiency. In PvP, the spark erupts or crits are the fist tree's hope for winning. Higher DEX means higher accuracy and evasion, too, so this build is actually more like an archer (where an axe-type is more like a barb) in terms of classes it is strong and weak against. It is probably the only style that can think reasonably about light armor at mid to high levels - relying on evasion to protect against physical attacks and focusing more on the magic.

Sword and Pole are between these. Sword is closer to Fist (low reliance on skills, but a slower higher-peaking weapon for when you do) and Pole is closer to Axe (with a high reliance on skills, but a high enough DPS for normal attack grinding when you want to). Both of these middle types also gain some limited range attack ability and a knock-back skill. Pole has linear AOE, but not really enough to do AOE grinding. Sword has a massive-damage ultimate attack, but how often are you going to use that? Basically, these middle styles are for people who really like the flexibility of the blademaster class as they have even more of the good-at-everything-but-great-at-nothing aspect than Axe or Fist. Or, you could say, they are safer ways to do what Axe or Fist specialize in."

Sword BMs rely extremely heavily on skills in PvP. We only use single sword weapons and normal attacks for PvE.

Anyways, swords focus on dealing damage to one target at a time, and staying alive. The advantages over axe are that swords deal more damage to a single target, they have an extra ranged move to attack kiters/runners, and that Myriad will allow you to take a hit like no other as you're rushing up at your opponent (Not to mention it deals double the direct damage that Heavens Flame does). The advantage with Axes is that you have an extra stun to keep them in place until you spike, and that you can debuff for higher spike damage since your consistent damage is pretty low Axe spikes are awesome though.

Kedth - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why dont you use both? b:chuckle

I mean, swords do a good damage 1vs1 that can help you to drop enemy's HP quite fast, then use Axes for the stun-lock and switch again.... u WANT to be able to stun-lock on PvP believe me... and for that Axes are a must have.

And yes, sword Myriad deals more damage in 1 hit than Axe's HF (not as high on real PvP) but HF is far better in terms of total damage. Those 6 (or 9 in demon) secs of amplify damage can do unreal damage. Better on PvP and far better on PvE in squads killing bosses and AoE grinding.

Sword/Axe BM here btw.

I hope it helps b:victory

I prefer Myriad on Squishy classes, if their health is near half it can usually finish them off through the charm, and I would much rather cut a wizard's atk in half. It's not like it takes a lot of damage to kill them anyways. HF I'd say is beter for HA users. Also, I usually don't use HF against bosses because it makes archers and wizards more likely to take aggro from the tank.

AXES b:laugh

neither!

for PvP fists/claws are far superior at close range and polearms have the best single target long ranged skills.

Axes are dominate in PvP.

^ this b:chuckle

Weird... my zerk sword (TT90 gold one if u are interested) doesnt cost 50mils... and it HURTS, you can bet it does. You don't need the "almighty" (and WAY overpriced) GXs to zerk at 50-60mils.

So yes, combo with Axes is great, hell who doesnt like to stun-lock or HF? But they dont "dominate" by themselves on PvP. They are just... too damn common. Easy to use if you might want. A switch weapon BM is better anytime, anyday if u ask me tho.

b:bye

You dont need Ancient Devil Souls for the TT90 zerk gold sword... you need 2 Secret Mother Auras... way cheaper. And since i was a sword BM in the beggining of the game and planned to go for it (well, more or less... at the beggining we are all noobs and dont know much XD) the final price of it is not that high.

Yeah, Souls are at that price in Sanc too.... crazy if you ask me >.<

So i went zerk on sword and for axes i went with the Star Axes, gloom does its job nice too and are a prefect fit if i AoE by my own.

Kedth - Sanctuary wrote: »

Weird... my zerk sword (TT90 gold one if u are interested) doesnt cost 50mils... and it HURTS, you can bet it does. You don't need the "almighty" (and WAY overpriced) GXs to zerk at 50-60mils.

So yes, combo with Axes is great, hell who doesnt like to stun-lock or HF? But they dont "dominate" by themselves on PvP. They are just... too damn common. Easy to use if you might want. A switch weapon BM is better anytime, anyday if u ask me tho.

b:bye

b:thanks said it for me b:thanks

Whoah I didn't realize zerk swords didn't need Ancient Devils Soul. I might try and get one then, cuz I'm LOVING the idea of a HF MSS zerk crit b:laugh