Black Friday Pack Discussion
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IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Dang so I wasted my carefuly writen reply to Roses.....
Here is the summary.
Rose, if by one click you mean 5000 clicks, I would have to say "you may have a point", since the tt100 mats only have a 0.02% chance of dropping from the packs.
Since everytime you click you have a 0.02% chance, there is no guarantees that you would only have to open 5000 packs to get one of the mats, since there are 4 possible mats, to get the one you needed you would be looking at 20000 packs....... at least, unless you really lucky and get it on the first click. (same with boss drops, you would had been very lucky and gotten it the very first time you did that boss).
Well....I am aware of the % rates on the packs...we were looking at them last nite (and vent was omg too funny I must say)...
I am not completely opposed 100% to all of this...playing devils advocate on a lot of things, as my own personal opinion(s) might get in the way...b:surrender
It is just difficult to imagine people (whom may or may not "deserve items"...so is life) pay for what might be more rewarding to farm...but them again look at those that Oracle'd to 90+ in a month or less b:surrender
I think the issue is more that with all of these things in packs...what was once a rare achievement now can be labeled at "purchased"...even if one were to have had farmed it.
Dunno....b:surrender
If you have any of these items you are a CS shopper/****. Well, on LC that is how many label others, when in fact you can get all of this through farming or even with in-game coins.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Well....I am aware of the % rates on the packs...we were looking at them last nite (and vent was omg too funny I must say)...
I am not completely opposed 100% to all of this...playing devils advocate on a lot of things, as my own personal opinion(s) might get in the way...b:surrender
It is just difficult to imagine people (whom may or may not "deserve items"...so is life) pay for what might be more rewarding to farm...but them again look at those that Oracle'd to 90+ in a month or less b:surrender
I think the issue is more that with all of these things in packs...what was once a rare achievement now can be labeled at "purchased"...even if one were to have had farmed it.
Dunno....b:surrender
If you have any of these items you are a CS shopper/****. Well, on LC that is how many label others, when in fact you can get all of this through farming or even with in-game coins.
I totaly agree with you. People will always complain, that is why I find the "official" posts so funny, because you will have the same people that complain doing it no matter what (look at the orb thread), even when their own arguments contractict themselves.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
If you have any of these items you are a CS shopper/****. Well, on LC that is how many label others, when in fact you can get all of this through farming or even with in-game coins.
Lately its been hard to make money on HH and other items. Too much supply and not alot of demand. Prices are going down.
I'm finding it harder to make money now adays b:surrender0 -
Coraline - Lost City wrote: »Hopefully they keep their promise with this one. Before with anni packs it was "Oh these will end after Halloween" bleh..
Do a search for Packs at the pwdatabase site.
They only scratched the surface of possible pack sales without having to repeat a single pack.... After this ones, we will get another I am pretty sure, since they actualy benefit the casual player more than any other sale.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Miss_Tika - Lost City wrote: »Lately its been hard to make money on HH and other items. Too much supply and not alot of demand. Prices are going down.
I'm finding it harder to make money now adays b:surrender
^ That is my issue!!
HH mats were completely nerfed with the two weeks of dble drop rate...
I am in the process of thinking (trying to) of new ways to make in-game coins...
heck even Mirages Stones will go down in price because of the new packs...and you and I both know that bh100 makes you have a HUGE surplus! Dang things I have hundreds....b:surrenderIceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Do a search for Packs at the pwdatabase site.
They only scratched the surface of possible pack sales without having to repeat a single pack.... After this ones, we will get another I am pretty sure, since they actualy benefit the casual player more than any other sale.
So far the one I laughed hardest at was the one (will not name the name) that gave mostly Gold HH mats b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »^ That is my issue!!
HH mats were completely nerfed with the two weeks of dble drop rate...
I am in the process of thinking (trying to) of new ways to make in-game coins...
heck even Mirages Stones will go down in price because of the new packs...and you and I both know that bh100 makes you have a HUGE surplus! Dang things I have hundreds....b:surrender
PWI making it harder to make in game coin so we have to cash shop0 -
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PWI, are you trying to hide your greediness behind 2x events? After 3 months of anni pack QQ you are bringing double exp/spirit/drop twice. Then you are releasing new packs and you put new 2x event again..0
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Miss_Tika - Lost City wrote: »PWI making it harder to make in game coin so we have to cash shop
Well...I don't have too and you don't have too.Centetric - Lost City wrote: »>_>
<_<
b:chuckle...don't worry Cen I have a few of the event items...But not like you b:cry...I need that ring b:cry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »b:chuckle...don't worry Cen I have a few of the event items...But not like you b:cry...I need that ring b:cry
<----very forgetful
b:cry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Through the darkness light can always emerge, it is only when the unwilling come upon this light that fear takes over. Emerging from this darkness takes more then courage, it takes faith in ones own mind and more importantly in ones own heart. To deny the light is to deny yourself the feeling of true happiness and true peace within your own soul. Denying your own happiness and your own soul is denying all that one has to live for."
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Centetric - Lost City wrote: »<----very forgetful
b:cry
b:chuckle
One of the reasons
ya b:cute
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Kitsuneh - Lost City wrote: »PWI, are you trying to hide your greediness behind 2x events? After 3 months of anni pack QQ you are bringing double exp/spirit/drop twice. Then you are releasing new packs and you put new 2x event again..
No, they were testing if the players were serious.
The double exp/drops/spirit are worse for the game than any of the pack sales. (pack sales make PW money, but, in general, do not create new money, the 10mil coin 2best tokens being the exception, while double drops will creatre new money out of thin air).
While people complained about the packs (mostly because they either could not afford them, or spent alot of money and got only tokens), very very few people complained about the 2xexp/drops/spirit events. Not only that, they asked for more.
That gave PW the green light to bring the sale packs back, since it showed that people were being hypocrat about their "real concern" for the game, and they were really just posturing. As long as any sort of imbalance benefits them directly, people have shown that they are all for it.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »No, they were testing if the players were serious.
The double exp/drops/spirit are worse for the game than any of the pack sales. (pack sales make PW money, but, in general, do not create new money, the 10mil coin 2best tokens being the exception, while double drops will creatre new money out of thin air).
QFT!!! More so the dbl drop rate....imo[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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but i need to frost and lvl (i personally like the 2x event )D:
PS : wats the epic reason rose [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Centetric - Lost City wrote: » but i need to frost and lvl
b:chuckle
The 2x exp/drops/spirit....I think work better for the lower levels tbh...as is was designed to do..[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Centetric - Lost City wrote: » but i need to frost and lvl
As Roses pointed out, the double drops are really what causes the most damage to the game. Once in awhile double exp or even double spirit would not hurt much. Of the 3, double spirit would be the one that would have the least negative impact in the game, actualy it may help the game by allowing people to train more skills, therefore draining coins from the game... (unless people just use the spirit to make genies and sell them, but at least they would still not be creating new coins)Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »b:chuckle
The 2x exp/drops/spirit....I think work better for the lower levels tbh...as is was designed to do..
yes b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Centetric - Lost City wrote: »yes b:pleased
b:angry Read you PM!!!!![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I think ob quiting b:angry more and more with few click they buy all their gear with $ and no work beside itb:angry .. and the packs are crapy .... the first ann pack had good win chanced but now almost 0 .... nice done by GMs . If u try to get something with coins u lose because the chance is so little and now the gold price will go around 1m maybe .. so u cant even buy
Immaculate Alabaster Shard (0.8%)
Immaculate Aquamarine Shard (0.8%)
Immaculate Amethyst Shard (0.8%)
Immaculate Ruby Shard (0.8%)
Immaculate Topaz Shard (0.8%)
and why they put such shards ? they are nothing worth ...0 -
scroll of tome is near 200M b:thanks guess how much the scepters gonna go for PLUS the increase in TT mats now that pple KNOW about it. Cause i KNOW im gonna jack up my TT weapon mats b:thanks Its going to cost more than it did before unless your super lucky. I personally am glad i got it before this event when the price was steady and gold still high.All I can say is: lmfao @ people who spent 300m on the twilight scepter.
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i advise every1 give the packs a try too
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So what did everyone get so far??[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »So what did everyone get so far??
Nothing....have not done any.
Not sure if I am going too tbh.....
Besides...lol...at work and will be traveling once off...might be offline for a day or two...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »So what did everyone get so far??
a headache.0 -
Best chance for return for your gold seems to be palace packs. Bought 10 and got 7 gold/silver MP/HP charms
Edit: Yup just spent 5 more gold on 5 packs and got 13 golds worth of charms0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »As long as any sort of imbalance benefits them directly, people have shown that they are all for it.
For once, I kinda have to agree...
But, I guess that's how business are run. Players want cheap, easy entertainment for themselves and PWI want fast, easy profits for themselves.... the two run off each other.
Who know's, mebbe the devs have QQ sessions themselves in their offices?
"zomg! so many ppl not paying moneyz for our game!"
"They could at least donate something if they're playing, they're so greedy! Q_Q"
"grr I hate playerz letz have maor anni pack sales that'ull tech teh nubz!!!!11one!"
"shush n00b QQ maor"
"No u shush moron, u suck, i r in charge moar sales nao!"
"You know guys, maybe the players are <insert logical argument>
"gtfo playerz suck, r all greedy nubs, we shud ban em, spam teh salez!"0 -
Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »So what did everyone get so far??
sadness...
b:sad
me people still be trapped in those boxes~ b:angrydarthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
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Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
58% chance to get tokens
41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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Too much sale goin on already...cant keep up with em all xD... my bank acc is gettin slim :P0
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Nothing. I'm waiting to hear from you test bunnies about the results before I bother. b:victoryDeceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »So what did everyone get so far??0
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