TW advices :D (all lvl can enjoy TW fun)
Whiteleo - Lost City
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Hi everyone,
i have a little advice on TW system.
first of all , i think we need some Rules for TW.
1st simple rule : any faction can have maximun 4 territoreis.
let's say there are 3 strongest factions in your server
they gonna take 12 territories for sure.
then the rest of the map???, all the low lvl faction can enjoy all the map (they dont' need to fight all lvl 100 guild b:surrender to get a land etc :P )
so that the entire server (all low, high lvl can enjoy the TW in this way)b:victory
OK!!, NO!! we are strongest, we want more than 4 territories ,we are GOD, FINE!!! , u still have chance, but there will be a little challenge tho. b:laugh
2nd rule : now you have 4(max) land already, u want more land, if u bid on next 5th 6th territory, u have to fight x 2 base Defence
meaning that there will be x 2 defence towers and Base(red piller) will have x 2 HP.
so that the game will be balance
how is that?
this is the one and only way to make all server can have fun in TW (even low lvl newbie)
ty for reading b:thanks
Sorry for my bad english, lol , hope everyone understand what i want to say -.-
i have a little advice on TW system.
first of all , i think we need some Rules for TW.
1st simple rule : any faction can have maximun 4 territoreis.
let's say there are 3 strongest factions in your server
they gonna take 12 territories for sure.
then the rest of the map???, all the low lvl faction can enjoy all the map (they dont' need to fight all lvl 100 guild b:surrender to get a land etc :P )
so that the entire server (all low, high lvl can enjoy the TW in this way)b:victory
OK!!, NO!! we are strongest, we want more than 4 territories ,we are GOD, FINE!!! , u still have chance, but there will be a little challenge tho. b:laugh
2nd rule : now you have 4(max) land already, u want more land, if u bid on next 5th 6th territory, u have to fight x 2 base Defence
meaning that there will be x 2 defence towers and Base(red piller) will have x 2 HP.
so that the game will be balance
how is that?
this is the one and only way to make all server can have fun in TW (even low lvl newbie)
ty for reading
b:thanksSorry for my bad english, lol , hope everyone understand what i want to say -.-
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Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »Hi everyone,
i have a little advice on TW system.
first of all , i think we need some Rules for TW.
1st simple rule : any faction can have maximun 4 territoreis.
let's say there are 3 strongest factions in your server
they gonna take 12 territories for sure.
then the rest of the map???, all the low lvl faction can enjoy all the map (they dont' need to fight all lvl 100 guild b:surrender to get a land etc :P )
so that the entire server (all low, high lvl can enjoy the TW in this way)b:victory
OK!!, NO!! we are strongest, we want more than 4 territories ,we are GOD, FINE!!! , u still have chance, but there will be a little challenge tho. b:laugh
2nd rule : now you have 4(max) land already, u want more land, if u bid on next 5th 6th territory, u have to fight x 2 base Defence
meaning that there will be x 2 defence towers and Base(red piller) will have x 2 HP.
so that the game will be balance
how is that?
this is the one and only way to make all server can have fun in TW (even low lvl newbie)
ty for reading b:thanks
Well that would seem fair at first glance but think about when one faction is being attacked by 4 factions and trying to fight a 2x def land. Then look at how fair it is to said faction[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Uhm, whats stopping another 6 strong factions popping up and taking the rest of the territory?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Chobsi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Well that would seem fair at first glance but think about when one faction is being attacked by 4 factions and trying to fight a 2x def land. Then look at how fair it is to said faction
No, what i want to say is that, that fac that attacked by 4 factions will get x2 defense for their 4 land but the attacker will have only normal defence.
let's say A have 4 lands, and B have 4 lands.
if A attack B, B will get x 2 defence but A will get only normal defence, that's it.
even if u get attacked by 4 fac at once, why u fear? u have x2 defence anyway. can't defense even u have x2 defense? then b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »No, what i want to say is that, that fac that attacked by 4 factions will get x2 defense for their 4 land but the attacker will have only normal defence.
let's say A have 4 lands, and B have 4 lands.
if A attack B, B will get x 2 defence but A will get only normal defence, that's it.
even if u get attacked by 4 fac at once, why u fear? u have x2 defence anyway. can't defense even u have x2 defense? then b:bye
Well then on most maps, besides I think Lost city everyone would have 2x defense so whats the point?.. It'd just make everything the same.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
"Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
"Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
"So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
~Chobsi b:cute0 -
Adroit - Lost City wrote: »worst idea eva b:bye
what's the reason to say so???
u can suggess and discuss your opinion[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »what's the reason to say so???
u can suggess and discuss your opinion
And thats her opinion.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
"Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
"Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
"So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
~Chobsi b:cute0 -
ok first people, what he says takes a bit of reading (more than once) to perfectly understand.
basically he is saying, place a maximum limit on how many territories any one faction can hold or barring that, make taking above X amount of territories more difficult by increasing their win requirements to take the territory from the NPC's.
What he is not saying is that a Territory holder would have to fight more difficult battle if attacked by another faction. Only if they are attacking an NPC held territory.
I can see where this idea might be good. BUT... I think though that rather than allowing a faction to gain more territories, with increasing difficulty, they should just be limited to X number of territories, period. At which point they will have to defend against all attackers as per normal TW rules.
Considering the number of territories in the game, I think a nice even number like say 6 territories max would be appropriate. This would allow a minimum of 7 factions to hold territories and I honestly think would make the map much more dynamic as new factions grow into power and older factions die off and fade away. Normal TW rules would apply to anyone wanting to attack a land holder of course.
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Chobsi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Well then on most maps, besides I think Lost city everyone would have 2x defense so whats the point?.. It'd just make everything the same.
sorry honesly i don't understand.
x2 defense is for low lvl guild who defense against high lvl(who want more than 4 land).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »ok first people, what he says takes a bit of reading (more than once) to perfectly understand.
basically he is saying, place a maximum limit on how many territories any one faction can hold or barring that, make taking above X amount of territories more difficult by increasing their win requirements to take the territory from the NPC's.
What he is not saying is that a Territory holder would have to fight more difficult battle if attacked by another faction. Only if they are attacking an NPC held territory.
I can see where this idea might be good. BUT... I think though that rather than allowing a faction to gain more territories, with increasing difficulty, they should just be limited to X number of territories, period. At which point they will have to defend against all attackers as per normal TW rules.
Considering the number of territories in the game, I think a nice even number like say 6 territories max would be appropriate. This would allow a minimum of 7 factions to hold territories and I honestly think would make the map much more dynamic as new factions grow into power and older factions die off and fade away. Normal TW rules would apply to anyone wanting to attack a land holder of course.
~Saitada
I just think most of the big factions would be crying over not dominating the map and leave and thus losing PW money on all the refines, charms, and GS they buy b:cry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
"Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
"Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
"So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
~Chobsi b:cute0 -
Chobsi - Heavens Tear wrote: »I just think most of the big factions would be crying over not dominating the map and leave and thus losing PW money on all the refines, charms, and GS they buy b:cry
who care b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
So.....We end up with 7 strong factions dominating the TW and all the little factions crying again......[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »So.....We end up with 7 strong factions dominating the TW and all the little factions crying again......
do u think how many Strong Faction currently in Lost City? b:chuckle
OK, let's say there are 7 strong fac, meaning they need(to recruit) more ppl for TW
so.., even low lvl like 6x 7x can participate in TW
or.., u want one strong faction like Spectral, Kamisama (currently strongest) dominating the whole MAP?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Yes. But have you considered that some might be stronger than others? And if there's a limit then those factions can pay more attention to their territories.Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »do u think how many Strong Faction currently in Lost City? b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »Yes. But have you considered that some might be stronger than others? And if there's a limit then those factions can pay more attention to their territories.
So what???, why dont' u lvl and join them. you have so many chance to join one of them.
or may be you want to sit somewhere and QQ 7 faction doing TW everyweek b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
ok seriously, back up a step guys and lets keep this on a reasonable discussion level between adults ok? (Gods I can't believe I, the flame queen.. said that).
The idea has merit but implementation is whats gonna be hard to do. Heck look at what CQ did on Lost City? THAT was seriously cool. Owned the map and then disbanded.
Lets suggest ideas that are workable. Mine was just one possibility, but I am sure if we all put our heads together, keep from flaming one another and hammer out some good ideas/suggestions that we can present to the GM's we can go a lot further.
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Who was the one who made this thread? I'm fine with CQ owning all the territories. YOU on the other hand are complaining about not being able to get a territory.Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »So what???, why dont' u lvl and join them. you have so many chance to join one of them.
or may be you want to sit somewhere and QQ 7 faction doing TW everyweek b:laugh
On topic- If we did this then 7 strong factions will own all the territories. Then people will QQ again about not being able to get a territory. I think this system works fine. They can't sit on their lazy butts and expect to be handed a territory. Go out and level.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »I'm fine with CQ owning all the territories.
CQ alt?
GTFO plz b:bye
true that i want to do TW(challenging TW) but i want a fair fight, not like standing on your resprwn point and getting one shorted by lvl 100
and i don't mind not have any territories. i just want to have TW fun.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
No. Im not. Now stop trying to come up with excuses for why your idea sucks.Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »CQ alt?
GTFO plz b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Adroit - Lost City wrote: »worst idea eva b:bye
100% agree... b:chuckle0 -
AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »No. Im not. Now stop trying to come up with excuses for why your idea sucks.
yahh, may be my idea suck, but why you come to forum and insult other suggesstions? without giving any suggesstions?
i just want to give some suggesstion to make our TW system better u know.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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In all honesty, people need to stop coming up with Territory War rules. The ones existing are perfectly fine.
If you want to win, put in the effort. The existing stong factions with level 90-100 players didn't start that way. They started as a level 1 faction, with low levels, 0 coins and few players. They worked to where they stand now and deserve every land they fought to win.
Why simply give it away to lower levels who can't be bothered to level up, grind some coins and just want everything handed to them on a silver platter? PK, PvP and TW isn't meant to be fair , it's survival of the fittest. You want to be on top? Put in the effort to get there and stop making threads asking for easier land.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I'm not insulting. I'm giving my opinion.Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »yahh, may be my idea suck, but why you come to forum and insult other suggesstions? without giving any suggesstions?
i just want to give some suggesstion to make our TW system better u know.
My opinion-Your idea sucks
You want my suggestion?
Stop QQing and live with it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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i'm not saying high lvl player doesn't deserve, they deserve it.Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »...
but i'm saying for low lvl player like 7x 8x (who have real life work and can't lvl too much)
but they are also PWI player, they doesn't deserve TW fun?? TW only limit for 9x 10x ???
ok, i give up b:surrenderAlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »I'm not insulting. I'm giving my opinion.
My opinion-Your idea sucks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
"Why simply give it away to lower levels who can't be bothered to level up, grind some coins and just want everything handed to them on a silver platter? PK, PvP and TW isn't meant to be fair, it's survival of the fittest. You want to be on top? Put in the effort to get there and stop making threads asking for easier land."- totally agree, but now its more like- survival of the fittest........ GEAR b:shocked . Folks after the Lunar gear made its way into PW w/ Packs TW has become a VIP-Only event, meaning only strong factions are allowed.
Before somebody b:angry me- this is only IMO!0 -
There is no level limit. I've been in factions in TWs against faction who far outnumbered our players and levels yet we still won with a little something called strategy. Pays to think ahead.
I have a real life, and work. I only get to play a few hours after work. This does not stop me from acheiving my goals in game. Patience is a virtue. If the low levels wish to enjoy territory war, they must level and put in the time and effort like everyone else. I do not understand why they should be handfed easier land whilst the existing land owners went through hell to obtain theirs.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Just...4 territories.. thats like nothing.
Leave it how it is.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I think there is a far better way of making TW availiable for all. remove the set times and make it so a TW can happen at any time that way europeans can actually take part, the majority of TW's start at 8:00-8:15 which in england is 4am. Allow bids to be made at anytime but keep the 48hour gap between bit and the TW itself so the defenders have a warning and a chance to organise.
Finally and most importantly of all remove the limit of 3 simultaneous attacks that way no tribe could hold more land that it can defend at once, for some tribes this might be 1 for other 4-5 but it will give others a chance and introduce a rather interesting tactical element of who and whne to attack.0 -
_Aphrael_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I think there is a far better way of making TW availiable for all. remove the set times and make it so a TW can happen at any time that way europeans can actually take part, the majority of TW's start at 8:00-8:15 which in england is 4am. Allow bids to be made at anytime but keep the 48hour gap between bit and the TW itself so the defenders have a warning and a chance to organise.
Finally and most importantly of all remove the limit of 3 simultaneous attacks that way no tribe could hold more land that it can defend at once, for some tribes this might be 1 for other 4-5 but it will give others a chance and introduce a rather interesting tactical element of who and whne to attack.
that's great idea. thanks you for giving your suggesstion.
better than trash talk like "your idea suck, worst idea ever" b:scorn[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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