Lured WorldBoss: Soul Hunter & Arch Southgate
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AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »So if I lured jewelcasen there, my quest would be complete? And do I get any exp and items?(*cough* harpy wraith *cough*).
I checked it many times in different quests even at PvP server.
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my question is why would it be bannable at all? O.o Since this can happen then it was obviously coded into the game on purpose and if not they wouldve patched it by now. Nice vid btw >.>[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Magicsaber - Dreamweaver wrote: »I said, that you will not get reward, but those, who will do quest.
I checked it many times in different quests even at PvP server.
About lured jewelcasen please, read here.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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the persone that lured it to arch was Mrsshadow which is ME and did not try to kill any one
He is talking about Soul Hunter...AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »It was lured to the place near Lost City (the northern pass I think)....
Youre talking about Jewel...
Someone got lost...b:sweatHi! =^.^=
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Starchief - Sanctuary wrote: »my question is why would it be bannable at all? O.o Since this can happen then it was obviously coded into the game on purpose and if not they wouldve patched it by now. Nice vid btw >.>
it was not coded into the game on purpose. the guards were coded to kill red named players (cause they are considered infamous or evil) and lesser mobs(to give the game a little immersion, it wouldnt do to have mobs run around a city and guards do nothing). however guards also identify bosses and world bosses as mobs thus kill them too. that is a bug and its not an easy matter to predict bugs. and once the game has been released patching those bugs without creating new ones is not a walk in the park. it is bannable because you are exploiting a bug to get drops/quest completion. a good example is harpy wraith who drops dragonling essences which are used to create some of the strongest legendary gear.
also purposedly luring mobs/bosses to other players so as to make them lose experience/tick their charms is bannable cause you are disturbing their game experience.0 -
Hi Guys,
I don't understand what the problem is. First let me introduce myself : Evilya Leader of Misfit5.
My guys just wanted :
1 = have fun
2 = make picture for competition
They knew (by killing this worldboss with the faction before) that you can not die from it...its aoe takes 50% and imidiately heales you too. Thats why this boss is the most killed worldboss on pwi...for it's easy for anyone to do (as long as you've got a big enough team and enough time. lol)
Shad and Pvm meant no harm and as far as i can tell and know, no harm was done . So what's the problem ?
As someone said in discution: if its against pwi rules to lure a worldboss to a town, then why is it possible to do so ? They would have made sure you couldnt ...
Anyway: Shad and Pvm...you're misfits alright lol. Good fun guys !b:chuckle0 -
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Iseria - Harshlands wrote: »it was not coded into the game on purpose. the guards were coded to kill red named players (cause they are considered infamous or evil) and lesser mobs(to give the game a little immersion, it wouldnt do to have mobs run around a city and guards do nothing). however guards also identify bosses and world bosses as mobs thus kill them too. that is a bug and its not an easy matter to predict bugs. and once the game has been released patching those bugs without creating new ones is not a walk in the park. it is bannable because you are exploiting a bug to get drops/quest completion. a good example is harpy wraith who drops dragonling essences which are used to create some of the strongest legendary gear.
also purposedly luring mobs/bosses to other players so as to make them lose experience/tick their charms is bannable cause you are disturbing their game experience.
u dont know what ure talking about, I code for a living, and it is rather simple to tell something NOT to chase a player past a certain spot, or tell the guards NOT to kill it. It is not a bug.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Evilya - Sanctuary wrote: »Hi Guys,
I don't understand what the problem is. First let me introduce myself : Evilya Leader of Misfit5.
My guys just wanted :
1 = have fun
2 = make picture for competition
They knew (by killing this worldboss with the faction before) that you can not die from it...its aoe takes 50% and imidiately heales you too.
The boss does not heal you. Your charm is triggered.Evilya - Sanctuary wrote: »Shad and Pvm meant no harm and as far as i can tell and know, no harm was done . So what's the problem ?
Your right nobody died. the purpose was to post this and find out if luring bosses near cities is bannable, your member said they cannot be banned because they are warning people to stay back and not attack it and such in normal chat. This was posted to ask about any rules regarding this. I believe the answer is yes if reported. I did not report anyone and I have no intention of doing so.
The issue for me is that I logged into the game, My hp dropped I was unable to move and I thought I was going to die. My charm was triggered without my intention to be near or provoke the boss. I was not in fact in any danger at all, I did not know that at the time. I did not know the bosses aoe was not going to kill anyone. I have never fought a worldboss, I am not in a faction I solo the game. I could not have known that. I also think it's important to respect all players and their resources regardless if harm was intentional or unintentional. Yes warnings were provided for those in the area a warning I did not receive when I logged in. So my charm was triggered once and I had a nice scare. It's not a big deal now that I know the rule about this and what this boss does.Evilya - Sanctuary wrote: »As someone said in discution: if its against pwi rules to lure a worldboss to a town, then why is it possible to do so ? They would have made sure you couldnt ...
Anyway: Shad and Pvm...you're misfits alright lol. Good fun guy
If a person wanted too, they could repeatedly whisper someone and harass them, call them names for kill stealing or some other thing. Harassment is against the rules and yet it is allowed to happen. A software engineer would not be required to insert collision map boundaries for world bosses to be contained in a specific area dis-allowing them to move to chase a party and kill it's members or to prevent the monster from being lured near or into a city. As stated, The boss would be allowed to kill the last party member and it's solely tied to player integrity as to whether or not a boss is lured into a city the same as player integrity is the only line between what good or bad is done in the game, either things done or said to people.
In summation I think I have my answer. If someone lures a worldboss near a city they individuals involved can be banned if reported, it does not matter what harm was or was not done to other players. It's not something people should be doing.
This thread was created to answer this question. I have my answer. I said before I have no intention of getting anyone banned although it was a frustrating experience that I did not want to participate in. (Before the recording was made.)
In my own opinion only, If players do this it should be posted in world chat as a warning to minimize the possibility other players are caught off guard. What I mean is; What boss is being lured to what location, and it's current location and the effects of it's aoe and the purpose for luring the boss. That is my opinion only.
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Taking in consideration it triggers your charm without other player consentment or knowledge -after all, if you have a charm, you wont go AFK. no, if you are smart, you go to a SAFE ZONE where you are not able to be attacked... and somebody is finding a way to disrupt that- by luring something into a safe zone is subject of discussion and more likely, a bannable offense.
A GM might reply to this thread but most likely he wlll tell you to submit a ticket.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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lol sneaky xD you sig rulesb:laughb:victory
@starchief i have worked with some scripts myself and theres a huge difference with coding an online game with an offline. jewelscalen and other bosses have a certain aggro range past which point they will not follow you any longer, unless you hit them/let them hit you.0 -
SneakyStalk - Harshlands wrote: »Taking in consideration it triggers your charm without other player consentment or knowledge -after all, if you have a charm, you wont go AFK. no, if you are smart, you go to a SAFE ZONE where you are not able to be attacked... and somebody is finding a way to disrupt that- by luring something into a safe zone is subject of discussion and more likely, a bannable offense.
A GM might reply to this thread but most likely he wlll tell you to submit a ticket.
Hello. The purpose of the thread is not to have anyone banned. It is to ask what rules exist about this. The individual luring the boss said they cannot be banned since they are telling people to stay away from the boss and not to attack it. Although no world chat shout was made about it to my knowledge.
I recorded the video just in case they had intentions of luring it into the city so the proper parties can be held accountable (but probably without repercussion). They had no intentions of doing that and they did not personally do that although they did lose control of the monster briefly and it headed close to Arch which another party was immediately blamed for.
I don't think it's okay at any time to lure a world boss to any other location. If people were to do it anyway, I think they have to consider the possibility of getting banned for it. I think it's important to world chat what is happening, where it is happening and what effect the boss has so people who value their charm can stay away and so that people don't attack the monster or lure it into town and get other players either killed, confused or angry. No harm done really, again I'm not trying to get anyone banned. I found out what I needed to know.
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Foltern why dont you say... you had nothing else to do and try to ban ppl...
IM PVM_only
it was just a competition and NOONE DIED...
i told weaker players to stop attack so they dont die on debuff hp loss (that you didnt even knew what that was)
if you ever had donne a World Boss you knew that Soul Hunter is HARMLESS.
a small competition is no reason to ban someone.....
and for what i see on internet ppl killed him after and had profitsb:victory....
only you to keep crying and telling "b:cryoh my hp whent down... big bad boss is killing meb:cry".
like i allready said NOONE DIED FROM WORLS BOSS
i know we did something out off the normal but this is a game and we where on a small faction competition..... if you faction dont do small competitions... what you do?? grind and gather mats all day?? for what i see in your inv on film of youtube.... yes all you know to do is grind and gather..... get a life or learn to play and have a good sportmanship.
for all the otehr players....
keep an eye open Misfit5 is out thereb:shocked0 -
pussy2lick wrote: »Foltern why dont you say... you had nothing else to do and try to ban ppl...
IM PVM_only
it was just a competition and NOONE DIED...
i told weaker players to stop attack so they dont die on debuff hp loss (that you didnt even knew what that was)
if you ever had donne a World Boss you knew that Soul Hunter is HARMLESS.
a small competition is no reason to ban someone.....
and for what i see on internet ppl killed him after and had profitsb:victory....
only you to keep crying and telling "b:cryoh my hp whent down... big bad boss is killing meb:cry".
like i allready said NOONE DIED FROM WORLS BOSS
i know we did something out off the normal but this is a game and we where on a small faction competition..... if you faction dont do small competitions... what you do?? grind and gather mats all day?? for what i see in your inv on film of youtube.... yes all you know to do is grind and gather..... get a life or learn to play and have a good sportmanship.
for all the otehr players....
keep an eye open Misfit5 is out thereb:shocked
I'd like to say in the politest way possible. I've said many times, I have no intention of getting anyone banned. I was told you can't get banned for doing what was done. This thread was made to learn what the rules really are for this if any at all. In the previous post I said myself no harm done ^__^. I don't want anyone to get banned. Your right when you say I have no knowledge of worlds bosses or their aoe skills. What I can say is that yes, my maximum hp was reduced by 50%. and at times my actual hp dropped to 50% and sometimes it triggered my charm which is not my concern. The individual luring the boss repeatedly told other players not to attack it because it will kill them. I didn't attack it, I can't verify it is harmless. Additionally I grind to max my player skills and I have saved some of those mats for a month to level my manufacturing skills to level 6, it's a small way in which to enjoy the game in the lower level range. I think your comment is a bit forward and perhaps misplaced ^^
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The question was: Can users get banned for luring world bosses near cities?
The answer was stated people can get banned for luring bosses near cities if reported with sufficient evidence. The purpose of the thread has been fulfilled.
To anyone who intends to post more, I apologize, I won't be watching the thread at this point, my question was answered earlier. Thank you.
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Im sorry , but I've got a problem with all this.
Not the point that people want to know if this is against PWI rules or not...
But, i thought PWI is a game. All about socialising, making fun, ...
Yet people take this game so serious...Like...I'm gonna die...so what ???
Its all in the name of fun !
Then about ur charm working on SoulHunter....No...it doesnt click ur charm.
We killed this worldboss before. For three hours and our charms were still as they were from the start...
The boss HIMSELF heals you after throwing aoe.
Like you said..you've never killed one before so ...take it from me ...i have !
Now please, people, lets just have fun out there.
Whats the point on playing this game if ur so scared ur gonna die ????
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ok for all u out there Foltern and i have spoken and he/she did not mean to point fingers and be seen as someone that tryes to get people banned. so the holw thing has got out of controll and would like to say that all u that cryed bann u should know better and foltern did not say it he asked what the rulz where on it as was just wondering what is aloud in this game ty foltern for getting in contact and GL. other players plaese stop crying bann as it could happen to u and would u like your money and time to go down the drain ????? think about it.0
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Evilya - Sanctuary wrote: »Im sorry , but I've got a problem with all this.
Not the point that people want to know if this is against PWI rules or not...
But, i thought PWI is a game. All about socialising, making fun, ...
Yet people take this game so serious...Like...I'm gonna die...so what ???
Its all in the name of fun !
Then about ur charm working on SoulHunter....No...it doesnt click ur charm.
We killed this worldboss before. For three hours and our charms were still as they were from the start...
The boss HIMSELF heals you after throwing aoe.
Like you said..you've never killed one before so ...take it from me ...i have !
Now please, people, lets just have fun out there.
Whats the point on playing this game if ur so scared ur gonna die ????
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i completely and wholeheartedly agree with this ^
one time i myself (on another character mind you) was banned for "luring" suzerix to sumor camp, when in fact i was trying to run away
here's the thing i find to be the worst part: the ability to "pull" world bosses to towns has been in the game forever, yet doing so is "against the rules"... show me what rule is being broken here?
also, someone said you "go to SAFEZONE to afk and be safe" or something along those lines. here's the funny part: safezone = safe from PK, not from mobs. you want to be safe from mobs? then logout, it's not hard to do
someone said it'd be hard to re-code the world bosses to not be able to go to town... how hard can it be? just change the object data relevant to the world boss, problem solved
personally, i vote that we stop this nonsensical banning for this behavior, as the (pathetic) excuse of "it interferes with other's play" is (honestly) just a cop-out. i know if i got killed by a world boss lured to town, it wouldn't "interfere with" my gameplay, in fact, i'd cheer them on, lurers AND defenders
hell, if it wasn't for the fact that i'd get banned, i'd get a bunch of people together and start luring world bosses/minibosses/etc to archo and make an event out of it (like the "Invasion of Archosaur" event we had so long ago)
in summary: its a game, treat it as such. stop being so serious about it b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »i completely and wholeheartedly agree with this ^
one time i myself (on another character mind you) was banned for "luring" suzerix to sumor camp, when in fact i was trying to run away
here's the thing i find to be the worst part: the ability to "pull" world bosses to towns has been in the game forever, yet doing so is "against the rules"... show me what rule is being broken here?
also, someone said you "go to SAFEZONE to afk and be safe" or something along those lines. here's the funny part: safezone = safe from PK, not from mobs. you want to be safe from mobs? then logout, it's not hard to do
someone said it'd be hard to re-code the world bosses to not be able to go to town... how hard can it be? just change the object data relevant to the world boss, problem solved
personally, i vote that we stop this nonsensical banning for this behavior, as the (pathetic) excuse of "it interferes with other's play" is (honestly) just a cop-out. i know if i got killed by a world boss lured to town, it wouldn't "interfere with" my gameplay, in fact, i'd cheer them on, lurers AND defenders
hell, if it wasn't for the fact that i'd get banned, i'd get a bunch of people together and start luring world bosses/minibosses/etc to archo and make an event out of it (like the "Invasion of Archosaur" event we had so long ago)
in summary: its a game, treat it as such. stop being so serious about it b:surrender
Hello, I think there is a vivid distinction between luring a boss with dangerous intentions and harmless intentions. Running for your life is not the same as luring. I believe the reason for making it against the rules is relates to the fact that towns, even arch are populated with players who cannot withstand direct hits from bosses. They would be killed instantly and lose exp and of course their charms. It should be against the rules to lag players intentionally and get them killed by a boss who they had no intention of being near at all. Maybe the victim is doing their first crazystone. The purpose for rules in the game exist for the same reason laws exist in the real world. To establish a minimum standard of conduct for which a civilized culture can operate. I would not play the game if high level players ran world bosses through arch and got me killed while viewing the auction house. It should be against the rules.
What I can say for the Misfit5, is that once again, They had no intention of killing anyone or harming them. They wanted to take a screenshot for the monthly contest. It's certainly not the same as luring for a bad intention. They did not even lure a boss with a "Kill" aoe.
Nobody hid in the safezone including me. Nobody said it would be hard to program boundaries for worldbosses. But it makes no sense to prevent a worldboss from moving and killing an attacking wave of squads. this also makes it possible to reset the monsters hp and position. It's just a bad idea. The issue also is that there are a lot of worldbosses, There is no reason for PWI to have software engineers change the code for each individual boss, That would be a large waste of resources. There are more important things to focus on. Its not necessary because people should not be doing it in the first place really, and the Soul Hunter is probably the best boss for doing something like this.
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Foltern - Sanctuary wrote: »-wall of text-
each part of what i wrote was a reply to some part of the thread, someone did in fact say it would be too hard to code, etc
i also understand the entire situation, i don't post without reading thru the thread beforehand :P[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Thank you for bringing it to our attention, those of you who said it may be bannable are correct. This all depends on the situation and the evidence presented.
One thing I should probably let you know: admins can read post editsb:shocked
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