My (realistic) goal for my Wizard

Ok, here are my points:
Refines to +5 are useless.
Refines to +4 are worthless unless u have cash to spend and u don't mind. +3 should serve you good, try to shop for +4, don't do refine on your own.
Nothing beats a Yaksa for wizards as weapon. Nothing. (Except ofc Frost from event).
Use the 77 sleeves of the sea captain. The TT80 ones have a little bit more HP but are not worth the cost. U can put that cost into shards/add a socket.
Rings are good but not great. Not worth it. Get some good 78 rings with +HP. I got 220 HP from rings at that lvl , mine now are giving me 260 HP, damage and crit.
Look for both protection necklace and belt with a lot of HP. I got a lvl 75 belt with 105 HP, 4 dex and 5 magic.It's **** for me, but that's pure gold for u. Same story for necklace, Pdef and HP modifiers. Search for TT ones or farm them.
Hat- you can easily find one with + 2x69 pdef and +80 HP.
Top is so/so. It's too expensive to make/use for 10 lvls. At 89 u get basically a free one (700k + some chips). I used Steppenwolf Lord's Cape.
Cape - tauran chieftain is a waste. U don't need mdef. Get something with 2xHP modifiers, refine it to +3 and shard it.
Boots are ok since u can use them until 95 when u get he OHT reward ones

Get a second pair of rings with pure dmg adds on them and also some belts/necklace with -channel for grinding/questing. Trust me, it's worth it. I trade 9%channel and 350 magic dmg for 2%crit, 2k pdef and 650 HP more when I switch grind/TW ornaments. Never forget this: Ornaments(rings+neck+belt) are the biggest source of extra HP,DMG and Pdef.

If u do what i've said you're lose about 150 HP maybe, keep the same magic dmg or bigger and save a shytload of cash.

Wraith Conq isnt the best weapon for a wizard.

You should consider getting sakra devanam lundra at 80 and then get Wheel of Denied Fate since farming mats for the wheel wouldnt be too hard.

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ok, here are my points:
Refines to +5 are useless.
Refines to +4 are worthless unless u have cash to spend and u don't mind. +3 should serve you good, try to shop for +4, don't do refine on your own.
Nothing beats a Yaksa for wizards as weapon. Nothing. (Except ofc Frost from event).
Use the 77 sleeves of the sea captain. The TT80 ones have a little bit more HP but are not worth the cost. U can put that cost into shards/add a socket.
Rings are good but not great. Not worth it. Get some good 78 rings with +HP. I got 220 HP from rings at that lvl , mine now are giving me 260 HP, damage and crit.
Look for both protection necklace and belt with a lot of HP. I got a lvl 75 belt with 105 HP, 4 dex and 5 magic.It's **** for me, but that's pure gold for u. Same story for necklace, Pdef and HP modifiers. Search for TT ones or farm them.
Hat- you can easily find one with + 2x69 pdef and +80 HP.
Top is so/so. It's too expensive to make/use for 10 lvls. At 89 u get basically a free one (700k + some chips). I used Steppenwolf Lord's Cape.
Cape - tauran chieftain is a waste. U don't need mdef. Get something with 2xHP modifiers, refine it to +3 and shard it.
Boots are ok since u can use them until 95 when u get he OHT reward ones

Get a second pair of rings with pure dmg adds on them and also some belts/necklace with -channel for grinding/questing. Trust me, it's worth it. I trade 9%channel and 350 magic dmg for 2%crit, 2k pdef and 650 HP more when I switch grind/TW ornaments. Never forget this: Ornaments(rings+neck+belt) are the biggest source of extra HP,DMG and Pdef.

If u do what i've said you're lose about 150 HP maybe, keep the same magic dmg or bigger and save a shytload of cash.

^^ this. Great advice

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Glaive. Why every1 recommend glaive as a mage weapon? Glaive has unpredictable damage, which can be very dangerous for survival. Example. You are in dangerous situation and 1 hit from mob will kill. Or 1 hit from you kill the mob. Now glaive has interval of damage Wheel of Life Magic Attack 598-897. You need to kill mob do at least 660 damage. BUT glaive hit just 620 damage, what mean you are DEATH . Because of this huge damage interval of glaive. I really don't like it. Glaive is absolutely unreliable. In my eyes for sure. I know. It can happen with magic sword or wand too, but possibility is much lesser than with glaive. And with wand is this possibility absolutely not important.

I think Mumintroll is right about the glaive. I used a glaive at late 4x-60 til i could equip my hh weapon. When i switched to a lvl 48 glaive from my 44 magic sword (even thought my glaive had a higher max atk) it was taking more time to kill mobs rather than less.

So try using a magic sword, like wraith conqueror as suggested at 90.

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

The HH 90 glaive is what is recommended at 90.. I would prefer less of a dmg range, but the stats on the 90 glaive make it way better than any of the other choices.

So you'd take slight POSSIBLE dmg increase > dependability? Seems a little flawed imo.

The thing about the glaive is its low end damage is higher than the low end damage of the sword. Then the glaive also has a MUCH higher high end damage.

Its not a possible damage increase, it is always higher. The thing gives so much magic attack that when you change to the 99HH gold sword your max magic attack barely goes up any, and the only thing that increases is your min.

TehMage - Lost City wrote: »

So you'd take slight POSSIBLE dmg increase > dependability? Seems a little flawed imo.

naw naw damage is almost non-factor 'cause you're gonna deal a lot of it... go with what looks sexier to you <~ best advice ever. b:dirty

TehMage - Lost City wrote: »

So you'd take slight POSSIBLE dmg increase > dependability? Seems a little flawed imo.

ehh...yes they want the powah.

Dinark - Lost City wrote: »

Griefs Breath (or lvl 70 mold sword perferably) > Wheel of Life > Wheel of Denied Fate

Any1 agree ?

me assuming arrows points towards better? b:puzzled and you is not using > as a greater than symbol?

yes wheel of denied fate is better then wheel of life is better then....actually kind of fuzzy here. o.o' is it better then saky's light? saky has some nice survival stats.

>.<'

griefs edge sucks. T.T' QQ~
<---happens to be using it...b:sweat
well not suck but me damage barely increased from using ancient arbor.

every garnet u use gets at least double the value when only self buffed.
But do not, and I repeat, do not ignore HP. A pdef as good as it gets will not save you from being 1-shoted by a lvl 90+ archer with a +7 x-bow if u have only 3.5k HP.
Wraith conquerer brings some nice magic/channel/HP bonus, but it's something in between and good for nothing in my honest opinion. Do your math: if u can refine/get gear that will give you a lot of HP/pdef work with the weapon to compensate a weakness. That's exactly what Yaksa does, it allowes you to shard more HP since the pdef bonus is quite nice. The glaive on the other hand will give you a lot in spike dmg but nothing else, so if u have the means to refine gear and get HP from there, Glaive is the better choice, no questions about it.
I on the other hand reach a point where Pdef is not my primary concern for the moment ( almost 5k self buffed, 6.7k with cleric/BM buffs and 8.1k pdef with EB+cleric+BM buffs. At 95 I will have 2 Lunar rings /w 3%crit -6 channel +250pdef on each so there will be another 1.2k pdef only self buffed) so I went for the 85 FC wand ( sensoid emptyness) for the 350HP bonus and -6 channel in the idea that I will stack the channel with the rings and the cost of gaining 350 HP from refines is immense ( at least for me) when I have already all the items that can give me HP refined to +4 and sharded. For that 350 gain I should go to +5 and +6 prolly on at least 3-4 armor pieces, that's not worth it in my book.
Truth is, the Sensoid E. wand doesn't have the spike dmg of a Glaive but comes pretty close to the dmg given by the Wraith at +5 and higher refines, so I haven't traded much dmg wise but I gained a lot in survivability (HP).

Just get 90 gear and don't use terrible gear.

You never ever get a glaive because it has a wide damage range, that's actually it's downfall if you ask me. It's much easier to kill someone if you can rely on your damage output. At 90 the best weapon happens to be a glaive, but other than that you should never be wearing one. 79 mold glaive is okay if you're busy farming hh80, but that's about it. I guess hh80 glaive is acceptable if you dont want to have to farm one @ 90, so you're prepared, but it's not the best one.

CeliaZ - Sanctuary wrote: »

I thought you needed the spike from glaives to help you kill someone, like BMs rely on zerk to kill someone..

nope... I never really liked the glaive until I was playing around on pwcalc. With the gear I was looking at etc... my magic attack was like 8k-9k on wraith conquerer, and 8k-10k on glaive... (or something like that.. but same principle was the same... same lower range damage but higher max) Doesn't make sense to go with anything besides the glaive if you look at all the choices

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

All spike damage is good for is bypassing charms, which you can do anyway with the right combos. Swords have more consistant damage, which means you won't be relying on luck to be able to win and you'll know your limits. This is just an opinion but to me magic swords are the better weapon.

As for BM's why are you bringing them up? They don't use the same weapons as an arcane class and have no reason to be in this thread.

i dont think you get it... you do the same MINIMUM dmg with glaive... with a chance at higher damage... you make it sound like there is some downside.. I fail to see how extra dmg is a problem.