When to swap back to Arcane?

lvl 60 is probably the ideal time to switch the light
that is if you really like the light armor build
if you like/are using the light armor build it is probably best to stick to it until around lvl 90 or 95 when arcane gear becomes significantly better
eg cape of underworld slayer http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/9348
but imo light armor sucks during midgame (lvl 59- lvl 89)
what most light armor advocates dont realise is that they have only slightly a better physical damage reduction %
they always quotes hard numbers for defense and do not bother comparing their effective hit points (EHP)
last time i did some calculation @ lvl 70
a light armor user has 15% more physical EHP
an arcane armor has 13% more damage when using gush
an arcane armor had 5% more magical EHP
note: restating costs money and light armor is harder to level
also dont shard garnets in arcane armor
i did calculation and you get more physical EHP by sharding citrines

Dratini - Lost City wrote: »

lvl 60 is probably the ideal time to switch the light
that is if you really like the light armor build
if you like/are using the light armor build it is probably best to stick to it until around lvl 90 or 95 when arcane gear becomes significantly better
eg cape of underworld slayer http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/9348
but imo light armor sucks during midgame (lvl 59- lvl 89)
what most light armor advocates dont realise is that they have only slightly a better physical damage reduction %
they always quotes hard numbers for defense and do not bother comparing their effective hit points (EHP)
last time i did some calculation @ lvl 70
a light armor user has 15% more physical EHP
an arcane armor has 13% more damage when using gush
an arcane armor had 5% more magical EHP
note: restating costs money and light armor is harder to level
also dont shard garnets in arcane armor
i did calculation and you get more physical EHP by sharding citrines

+1

I've been full arcane since the get go. You only get so much more defense reduction using light and you get gimped damage using light armor.

I also put citrines only because the garnets only add slightly more defense.

To the OP, best time to switch to arcane if you're already light build is 90 like most people do.

mizuoni i am currently short on time
but as soon as i get some i will redo post up my calculations
proving that citrines>garnet+citrine>garnets
if you guys have time atm i recommend going to pw calc and checking your physical EHP using garnets and citrines or a mix
Phys EHP=(life) * (physical damage reduction %)

TehMage - Lost City wrote: »

Just because you can crit kill them means they're bad? Idk what you're trying to say here.



I know exactly what you mean Dratini, maybe later you can show them the pdef reduction differences.

The higher level wizard with all citrines i can kill easier than the other wizards with a garnet/citrine combo. Unless you refine your pdef ornaments like a madman your pdef is going to suck.

_Yuri - Harshlands wrote: »

Hello Wizards.

When I 1st started pwi I knew I wanted to be light armor to help me survive longer and to pvp more effectively against classes like archers.

I always knew I would be going back to arcane soemday but I just don't know when, now i'm getting close to 70 and wondering if I should make the swap back to arcane.
(Also wondering about wich TT gear to craft)

What's you opinion Wizards.
Is now a good time to switch back to arcane?
Would I be gimping myself if I did this now?
And if I don't swap, is the level 70 TT light armor worth crafting for me?


thx Wizards!

restat at 70

My damage isnt as high as a pure, but im not gimped. I remember a time when a friend of mine borrowed my glaive. It was +3 with 1 immac gem in it(like i have it now). His BT is lvl 4, 5 or 6 and he was able to crit 11k on a cleric. I crit 8k on the same cleric with my lvl 2 BT. My friend is a vit build (53 vit) so his damage isnt too far off from pure.

Want to hear about my +5 yaksab:cute

Now about sharding citrines instead of garnets.

A level 96 demon wizard with full citrines in his gear.
I can one shot him with a BT crit.

A level 90 sage wizard with garnets in armor/citrines in hat and cape
I cant one shot him with a BT crit.

A level 94 demon wizard with the same shard combo as the sage wizard
I cant one shot him either.

I think you want to have a mix. Garnets in armor and citrines in hat and cape. Rest of your HP will come from refines and armor bonuses.

I had a +6 yaksa with 2 flawless. Best wpn on Dreamweaver for a lvl 80 caster. Gave higher dmg than a +6 Endless with 2 immac b:dirty. Whoever bought that from AH was a smart cookie.

Now, I currently have 8.1k pdef 9.5 mdef and 5.8k HP(6k HP with sage barb buff) full buffed. I'm a mix of Garnet and citrines. Highest refine I have is +4 and I think the only gear with 4 sockets is the TT80 boots and a lvl 77 Hat, the rest are 3 sock all of them.
I went for Sensoid Emptiness to get some extra HP ( I can't afford to pay 6x20 gold to plus my gear to 5, 6 is out of question yet. So I got some HP, a little bit of dmg and a shytload of pdef.
And at 95 add another 6% crit(about 12% in total), 12% channel(-24 in total) and at least 4k pdef extra(2 Lunar rings) with also at least anoter 1k HP on top of what I have now.

The point of all this? If u don't have cash for refines to get HP out of them, go for a mix, will serve u very well.

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I had a +6 yaksa with 2 flawless. Best wpn on Dreamweaver for a lvl 80 caster. Gave higher dmg than a +6 Endless with 2 immac b:dirty. Whoever bought that from AH was a smart cookie.

Now, I currently have 8.1k pdef 9.5 mdef and 5.8k HP(6k HP with sage barb buff) full buffed. I'm a mix of Garnet and citrines. Highest refine I have is +4 and I think the only gear with 4 sockets is the TT80 boots and a lvl 77 Hat, the rest are 3 sock all of them.
I went for Sensoid Emptiness to get some extra HP ( I can't afford to pay 6x20 gold to plus my gear to 5, 6 is out of question yet. So I got some HP, a little bit of dmg and a shytload of pdef.
And at 95 add another 6% crit(about 12% in total), 12% channel(-24 in total) and at least 4k pdef extra(2 Lunar rings) with also at least anoter 1k HP on top of what I have now.

The point of all this? If u don't have cash for refines to get HP out of them, go for a mix, will serve u very well.

QQ, mine is only +5 2 immac b:cry
Nice stats. Hey ursa, i might have a few 5 star orbs left over. I was making a bunch for gear the other day and had a few extras i was giving away to guild. I'll let you know what if i do.

Kannone - Heavens Tear wrote: »

~lv 89. The damage difference between the two builds grows slightly more and more noticeable as the levels go one, but what pushes the difference over the top are our lv 11 skills. Damage difference between LA & AA is something like 400-700 for lv 11 gush & pyro, and that's enough to make any sane light armor mages cry.

lol... no, lv11 skills have nothing to do with build at all. If anything the difference will be relatively smaller, as both builds get the exact same increase in power. Like comparing 45 and 50 to 95 and 100. Same difference, but still smaller.


The main difference in power comes from your weapon, the more you refine it, the bigger the difference. And HH90 is usually the first weapon you refine highly, meaning +5-6 for most, some higher.


Restat whenever you want if you simply want to stop pvping and grind a lot to 90 where Arcane becomes more easily viable for pvp (it's a lot more expensive below 90). Or you can restat at 90 if you want to pvp before you hit that level. Third option is restatting at 96, where you get new equips available to you (mold cape, top, 3 star past sleeves), but only if you can find/afford/farm those. It will also mean you'll have to re-farm HH90 if you stuck with LA at 90.