1str 1dex 8vit

Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary
Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
edited November 2009 in Barbarian
OK so I just started leveling a barb and I want it to be full tank. So far the stickied guides only say to go with the minimum DEX/STR requirements and rest into VIT. However, instead of running back to the tailor or blacksmith after each level I was wondering if 1 STR 1 DEX 8 VIT every 2 levels would work, or maybe more STR less VIT? Comment with suggestions please.
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  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    You will need more STR if you wish to wear the lvl appropriate heavy armor.
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  • Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    So how much would you recommend? 3STR 1DEX 6VIT every 2 levels?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So how much would you recommend? 3STR 1DEX 6VIT every 2 levels?

    There are stickies in this section.
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  • Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    There are stickies in this section.

    I know there are but none of them give a stat build for tank build, they all just say to go with the minimum DEX/STR requirement and I don't want to have to go back to the tailor or blacksmith all the time to see what I need to get for each level, better to have a set build.
  • Lady_marta - Dreamweaver
    Lady_marta - Dreamweaver Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    What I do on my Veno is check the amount of STR and level I need to wear my next pair of boots (they have the highest STR requirement per set) and add my points when I change armor. For example, I used the free quest armor at the beginning and the next boots were level 10 requirement with X STR needed (I honestly can't remember at this point). I added my points into STR right then and there and dumped the rest into MAG from that point on, until level 10. Then I looked at the NEXT set the same way, added my points, then continued to dump into MAG.

    You can probably get away with doing the same thing, except you'll be adding in your STR and DEX requirements early and dumping the rest into VIT. Other options you can take are finding/making equipment with -% requirements and/or using gear with +STR and +DEX to full your requirements and dumping more into VIT.
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  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    /slaps Hittori

    you should have asked me in-game -.-

    You should only waste 1 dex point every 2 levels. Then you waste on STR. till the str. needed for weapon (usually it will be 3 str. per level), the rest is used in Vit.

    Its something like 1 dex, 6 str. and 3 vit every 2 levels (very near this).

    Usually on 80+ levels some players set dex to be 60 or 80 instead of 49 end dex game.
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  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary wrote: »
    OK so I just started leveling a barb and I want it to be full tank. So far the stickied guides only say to go with the minimum DEX/STR requirements and rest into VIT. However, instead of running back to the tailor or blacksmith after each level I was wondering if 1 STR 1 DEX 8 VIT every 2 levels would work, or maybe more STR less VIT? Comment with suggestions please.
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So how much would you recommend? 3STR 1DEX 6VIT every 2 levels?
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I know there are but none of them give a stat build for tank build, they all just say to go with the minimum DEX/STR requirement and I don't want to have to go back to the tailor or blacksmith all the time to see what I need to get for each level, better to have a set build.

    *facepalm* *headdesk*

    Did you even bother to read the stickies? b:tired
    Theres a level by level recommended stat table in there for those too damn lazy to actually plan and build themselves.

    You can only ever get the best build for you (everyone's is slightly different) when you go to the blacksmith/auctionhouse/pwidatabase once every few levels and plan 10 levels ahead for the next set of equips.
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  • Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    *facepalm* *headdesk*

    Did you even bother to read the stickies? b:tired
    Theres a level by level recommended stat table in there for those too damn lazy to actually plan and build themselves.

    You can only ever get the best build for you (everyone's is slightly different) when you go to the blacksmith/auctionhouse/pwidatabase once every few levels and plan 10 levels ahead for the next set of equips.

    I'm sorry, I didn't know people weren't allowed to ask questions.... I will try to refrain from now on b:shutup. Forgive me oh great and powerful Barbarian.... I will never speak again as long as you desire. Please take my most serious condolences...

    Now, there was no reason to go all IMO. Why is it so wrong to ask for opinions of barbs who are more experienced? Yes, I am a noob barb I'm willing to admit that, but I also don't go trolling forums wanting to insult somebody with every word. Please try and think construtive instead of destructive and maybe your point will get across the way you wish.
  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I didn't know people weren't allowed to ask questions.... I will try to refrain from now on b:shutup. Forgive me oh great and powerful Barbarian.... I will never speak again as long as you desire. Please take my most serious condolences...

    Now, there was no reason to go all IMO. Why is it so wrong to ask for opinions of barbs who are more experienced? Yes, I am a noob barb I'm willing to admit that, but I also don't go trolling forums wanting to insult somebody with every word. Please try and think construtive instead of destructive and maybe your point will get across the way you wish.


    I'm sorry I don't mean to be rude, but when you ask a question thats answered on the second post of the first page of the stickies it does make me wonder.
    Nothing wrong in asking questions, everyones was a newbie once, and asking for opinions is always a good thing, but this is a topic that has been beaten to death in those stickies and various other posts here and the general consensus is:
    Use the weapon requirements to plan your stats. Only you can do that because your equipments might have different bonuses.
    For those who don't care about squeezing out every last point of vit there is a generic build and that is posted here in the sticky. It assumes you will use dual axes. You will still have to make variations if you use a different weapon type.
    For those not planning to go tanker barb there are a fixed per level X & Y set of builds listed too.

    Some other threads with similar discussions:
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    min str per level for axes is min dex for your axes is .5 per level so 6 str 1 dex 3 vit per level

    yes barbs im here...in your forums stealing your secretsb:chuckle

    as always if im wrong correct me without flames and ill thank yab:thanks
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  • DaCage - Sanctuary
    DaCage - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    If you want purley as much hp as possible cap your str and dex too TT90 armor and use calamaties. With this build you list you wont be able too use a good quility off armor so you will get less hp and elemental res(We despretly need it) from your equips.
    and I doubt that you'd ever get your str high enough too use TT90 green or TT80 gold and the points you'll get in vit wont be sufficant too justafie it imo.
  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Best way to add stats no matter what build your going for:

    3 str 1 vit 1 dex until lvl 60 or 80, once you've got your desired dex then go 3 str 2 vit.

    If you're going for hp you can make up any little lost hp with your armors!

    I've been doing this system since lvl 1. I have just over of 16k hp (buffed tiger/demon true form) and 4k-7k phys attack at lvl 91.

    EDIT: Exact Stats:
    13303/16387 HP - 4103/7060 Phys Attack
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
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    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • EmptyWords - Heavens Tear
    EmptyWords - Heavens Tear Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I don't like X e Y stats each lev.

    I put stats depending on what i have to equip.
    Min str and dex for equipping, all the rest in vit.

    I'm 75 with medium gears and i have near 10.8k life..
  • GohRaL - Sanctuary
    GohRaL - Sanctuary Posts: 883 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    EmptyWords - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't like X e Y stats each lev.

    I put stats depending on what i have to equip.
    Min str and dex for equipping, all the rest in vit.

    I'm 75 with medium gears and i have near 10.8k life..

    yeah,me too...


    i use gear with +bonus and can afford to put more stats in VIT
    now that i got calamities i have no worries for weapon requirement and just focus on TT equip or something better if im lucky b:chuckle
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  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I know there are but none of them give a stat build for tank build, they all just say to go with the minimum DEX/STR requirement and I don't want to have to go back to the tailor or blacksmith all the time to see what I need to get for each level, better to have a set build.

    yes it does - its right here:
    the guide says "minimum str/dex for gear, excess to vit"
    the sticky wrote:
    B. Gear Requirements for Axes/Hammers and Heavy Armor:
    lvl str dex excess
    1 5 5 0
    2 6 5 4
    3 8 5 7
    4 9 5 11
    5 12 6 12
    7 16 6 18
    8 16 7 22
    9 20 7 23
    10 20 7 28
    11 24 8 28
    12 28 9 28
    13 33 9 28
    15 40 10 30
    16 44 11 30
    17 48 12 30
    18 52 13 30
    19 56 14 30
    20 60 15 30
    21 65 15 30
    22 66 16 33
    23 70 16 34
    24 74 17 34
    26 79 17 39
    27 83 18 39
    29 90 18 42
    30 92 19 44
    31 95 20 45
    33 100 21 49
    34 104 22 49
    36 107 24 54
    37 110 26 54
    39 120 26 54
    40 120 26 59
    41 125 26 59
    43 129 26 65
    44 134 26 65
    46 137 31 67
    47 143 32 67
    49 151 32 67
    50 151 32 72
    51 155 32 73
    52 160 32 73
    53 160 32 78
    54 164 32 79
    56 169 32 84
    57 173 33 84
    59 181 33 86
    60 182 34 89
    61 185 35 90
    62 185 38 92
    63 189 38 93
    64 194 38 93
    66 198 38 99
    67 203 38 99
    69 212 39 99
    70 212 39 104
    71 215 41 104
    73 220 46 104
    74 224 47 104
    76 232 49 104
    77 236 50 104
    79 246 50 104
    80 246 50 109
    81 246 50 114
    83 252 53 115
    84 256 54 115
    85 261 54 115
    86 263 55 117
    87 267 56 117
    88 272 56 117
    89 277 56 117
    90 277 56 122
    91 277 58 125
    93 281 59 130
    94 285 60 130
    95 290 60 130
    96 294 61 130
    97 298 62 130
    98 303 62 130
    99 308 62 130
    100 308 62 135
    101 308 62 140
    103 309 62 149
    104 314 62 149
    105 314 62 154

    first column - your level
    second column - str points (at that level)
    third colum - dex points (at that level)
    fourth column - vit points (at that level)

    not that hard to comprehend at all. seems level 55 was skipped though for some odd reason. b:laugh only reason i noticed was because I was going to compare my build to what it lists here. I use the following formula:

    STR = My level * 3 + 2
    DEX = My level / 2 + 5 (rounding up to next whole number)

    therefore at 55:

    STR = 167
    DEX = 33

    these numbers are precisely what I need if I were to wear NPC gear if it happened to be sold to me at that level. Basically, I add points as such:

    Even levels = 3 str 2 vit
    Odd levels = 3 str 1 vit 1 dex

    (this is 6 str, 3 vit, 1 dex per two levels)
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  • Andross - Dreamweaver
    Andross - Dreamweaver Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    (this is 6 str, 3 vit, 1 dex per two levels)

    Came in here to post this.
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  • GohRaL - Sanctuary
    GohRaL - Sanctuary Posts: 883 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    fourth column - vit points (at that level)

    i wanna correct this,
    is not the exact value of your VIT but the excess from the 5 stat point gained that level

    as u see:

    at lvl 1 u have 5str - 5dex - 0vit
    this doesnt means u have 0 vit at lvl1 BUT that u HAVENT PUT any into vit at that level

    at lvl 2 u have 6str - 5dex - 4vit
    this means u have gained 5 stats point reaching the lvl2 and u have to put 1 of those into STR and the 4 left into VIT

    so at lvl 3 u have 10stat point more than the lvl 1

    L1 5 5 0 = 10stat point (starting)
    L3 8 5 7 = 20stat point


    and

    from lvl15 u have 40str - 10dex - 30excess

    to level 21 u have 65str - 15dex - 30excess

    u wont put any stat into VIT cuz ull need to pump str for 19FB poleaxe


    and ur VIT value will be:

    excess stat point + initial value     + evetual bonuses from equip
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  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i wanna correct this,
    is not the exact value of your VIT but the excess from the 5 stat point gained that level

    ahh, that you are correct about - silly me for not thinking about that. so essentially (to clarify) the excess column would be your "leftover unallocated points" not being put into dex or str. For a tank then your base VIT would equal the excess column for a specific level + 5 (to account for starting points)
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  • Kirashan - Dreamweaver
    Kirashan - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    --- EDITED - Error in posting - see next post ---
  • Kirashan - Dreamweaver
    Kirashan - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I know that people have already posted out the formulas and the level reqs, but for those of you out there that don't understand them or don't want to take the time to figure it all out, here are the point allocations per level, to 105, for the standard Tank build:
    Lvl	Str	Dex	Vit (what's left over)
1	-	-	-
2	1	0	4
3	2	0	3
4	1	0	4
5	3	1	1
6	0	0	5
7	4	0	1
8	0	1	4
9	4	0	1
10	0	0	5
11	4	1	0
12	4	1	0
13	5	0	0
14	3	0	2
15	4	1	0
16	4	1	0
17	4	1	0
18	4	1	0
19	4	1	0
20	4	1	0
21	5	0	0
22	1	1	3
23	4	0	1
24	4	1	0
25	0	0	5
26	5	0	0
27	4	1	0
28	3	0	2
29	4	0	1
30	2	1	2
31	3	1	1
32	1	0	4
33	4	1	0
34	4	1	0
35	0	0	5
36	3	2	0
37	3	2	0
38	5	0	0
39	5	0	0
40	0	0	5
41	5	0	0
42	2	0	3
43	2	0	3
44	5	0	0
45	5	0	0
46	0	5	0
47	4	1	0
48	3	0	2
49	5	0	0
50	0	0	5
51	4	0	1
52	5	0	0
53	0	0	5
54	4	0	1
55	0	0	5
56	5	0	0
57	4	1	0
58	3	0	2
59	5	0	0
60	1	1	3
61	3	1	1
62	0	3	2
63	4	0	1
64	5	0	0
65	0	0	5
66	4	0	1
67	5	0	0
68	5	0	0
69	4	1	0
70	0	0	5
71	3	2	0
72	5	0	0
73	0	5	0
74	4	1	0
75	5	0	0
76	3	2	0
77	4	1	0
78	5	0	0
79	5	0	0
80	0	0	5
81	0	0	5
82	4	0	1
83	2	3	0
84	4	1	0
85	5	0	0
86	2	1	2
87	4	1	0
88	5	0	0
89	5	0	0
90	0	0	5
91	0	2	3
92	0	0	5
93	4	1	0
94	4	1	0
95	5	0	0
96	4	1	0
97	4	1	0
98	5	0	0
99	5	0	0
100	0	0	5
101	0	0	5
102	0	0	5
103	1	0	4
104	5	0	0
105	0	0	5

    These will get you to each level requirement on schedule, with the exception of a few spots where you may need to wait a level to get the most current weapon.
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Hitori_Hanso - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Now, there was no reason to go all IMO. Why is it so wrong to ask for opinions of barbs who are more experienced?

    this made me want to slap ur parents -.-'

    u just said u didnt want barbs OPINIONS, yet the very next sentence said "why is it so wrong to ask OPINIONS..." >.>
  • Battlebash - Heavens Tear
    Battlebash - Heavens Tear Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    umm wat about 5vit 4str and 1 dex
  • Black_lce - Heavens Tear
    Black_lce - Heavens Tear Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Battlebash - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    umm wat about 5vit 4str and 1 dex

    u need at least 2.5 str per lvl to wear heavy armor, and .5 dex

    so if u want a con (tank) build, per lvl;

    str- 2.5
    dex- .5
    vit- 2

    or if u also wanna wear a weapon of ur lvl;

    str-3
    dex-.5
    vit- 1.5

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