Which build is the best, or what build do you use, for a Veno?

Unfortunately there isn't a heavy armor "build" based purely on leveling stats. You will never have enough base stats to use what you want. Secondly, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you only need 2.5 str per level to use HA, which would be 5 str every 2 levels, not 6.

HA builds use (typically) a mass amount of stat bonuses from gear. I recently restatted to Hybrid AA/HA.

I use aquadash, TT80 HA, and Part Legend/Part TT80 Gold AA. The only reason I can use all of those things however I want is the bonuses from my equipment.

I guess I'll vote heavy since there's no hybrid option.

EDIT: Nvm, voted other.

What I think is the best build overall is Vit-Mag Arcane built.

Mag: Enough to use your armor and weapon
Str : Enough to use your armor and weapon
Dex: 5 is enough unless you want crit.
Vit: The rest on vitality


You will then have at around lvl 100 about 7k hp, decent magic
attack and phys.res. It depends how you refine your gear and what you use.

My favorite build is prior stats like above. Full arcane w/hp shards. Can mix in a few phys. def shard if you want on helmet or cape maybe.
Then use physical defence necklace and belt.

I dont think there is any reason to go this build before lvl 90, then you get resistant against phys. attacks and magic. You will be better overall on each class. The nix will **** arcane as usual and you can take down a BM and barb without dying to easy.

My stats at lvl 99 is "around"

Vit: 274
Mag: 315
Str: 59
Dex: 12

That is my choice of build and its pretty effective

Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If you plan on soloing TT1-3 Drummer in squad mode, you're going to need 100+ vit by L90. Provided you can get -24-30% channeling and have nearly 6k HP, you can do it. You're going to need nearly 3k+ if you plan on soloing TT2-1 Feng (horse boss). (So, Vit/Mag build.)

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

LOL at the HA build couldnt ever choose that anyways i chose other because i switch between fox and human and HA and AA i stat 6 mag 4 str and find + dex and str ornaments oops double post (

Reikara, I've never understood why you use "battlefox" instead of "fox"... Seems kind of silly to tack a modifier onto it but not the other roles such as "wondercaster", "superhybrid", "ultramelee" and whatnot.

That said, I think the act of compiling a compiling a complete list of builds is a bit of a futile effort since there's so many possible combinations. Personally, if I were to quantify the various builds, I'd try to do so by defining the different factors which go into a build, something like as follows:

Build = Armour + Role + Stat_Distro

Armour
- Arcane
- Light
- Light+Arcane
- Heavy
- Heavy+Arcane

Roles
- Caster
- Fox
- Hybrid (both)
- Melee
- Bow

Stat_Distro / Emphasis
Arcane
- MAG-emphasis
- VIT-emphasis
- DEX-emphasis
Light (and related)
- Pure (3 MAG - 1 STR - 1 DEX)
- Impure Magical / Variant
- Melee
- Bow
Heavy (and related)
- Uncompromising
- Weapon Compromise
- Armour Compromise
- Melee

Now, tallying that list up, counting only stat distributions relevant to each role (ie. uncompromising, weapon, and armour for heavy fox; only melee for heavy melee) and also counting the "X+Arcane" builds the same as "X", that sums up to a total of 27 general "builds". If tallying the "+Arcane" builds separately, it gives a total of 42 "builds".

That's not even including more specific sub-distributions either, since there are different degrees to which you might give a VIT-emphasis on an arcane build, for instance.

For those interested/bored, the 27:

1. Arcane Caster MAG-build
2. Arcane Caster VIT-build
3. Arcane Caster DEX-build
4. Arcane Fox MAG-build
5. Arcane Fox VIT-build
6. Arcane Fox DEX-build
7. Arcane Hybrid MAG-build
8. Arcane Hybrid VIT-build
9. Arcane Hybrid DEX-build
10. Light Caster Pure-build
11. Light Caster Impure-build
12. Light Fox Pure-build
13. Light Fox Impure-build
14. Light Hybrid Pure-build
15. Light Hybrid Impure-build
16. Light Melee Melee-build
17. Light Bow Bow-build
18. Heavy Caster Uncompromising-build
19. Heavy Caster Weapon-build
20. Heavy Caster Armour-build
21. Heavy Fox Uncompromising-build
22. Heavy Fox Weapon-build
23. Heavy Fox Armour-build
24. Heavy Hybrid Uncompromising-build
25. Heavy Hybrid Weapon-build
26. Heavy Hybrid Armour-build
27. Heavy Melee Melee-build

The above sums up why I think lists of "builds" is a silly idea.

I will note however, that I'm blurring the distinction between "build as stat distribution" and "build as purpose". Both senses of the word are used, and in my own assessment, the latter definition is used more often, leading to this obscenely long list.

Well I'm going with 3vit 6mag 1str every 2 lvls. I thought that magic armor gives me magic resistence, physical ornaments and fox form gives me enough physical resistence so the only thing missing is HP .3vit/2lvls should add quite alot HP. It's paying off nicely for me.^^b:victory

High_Lord - Heavens Tear wrote: »

mind explaining how?

tweakz likes to be disagreeable. I did suicide runs with Momento when I needed War Drums for my TT80 weapon. He had 6k+ HP then and nearly -30% channeling. He soloed it plenty of times for the faction.

Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »

tweakz likes to be disagreeable. I did suicide runs with Momento when I needed War Drums for my TT80 weapon. He had 6k+ HP then and nearly -30% channeling. He soloed it plenty of times for the faction.

Try again. It's the idiotic "HP is all", or "You need X vit" that tell me I can't do something when I can. These people totally disregard defense and funnel people to the more expensive / limiting builds.

Let's rattle off some other disagreements. Many say "magmite is best non legendary tank", yet never has anyone stepped forward to name a mob or boss their magmite can tank that a same level other common pet can't. So who's disagreeing with who? How about when I was advocating using a Ranged Pet to tank World Bosses? I was disagreed with there, and yet I've now tanked one with one (very successfully).

Defense is more practical for Pure Mag.

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I wasn't even in foxform when this happened so my phy def was rather low, it was surprising that the archer could not kill me because we were fighting radiance at the time and you know how geared up they are.

While I was there, I was baffled at why many had such poor gear. I then learned that they're an admittedly laid back guild. I was disqualified from TW simply for refusing to sit in a squad for an hour prior being unproductive (Even though I was listening in Vent). -NP there, the TW pay didn't compare to what I was making anyway. Their pay was also based on level, so that's where many of their priorities were.

I have no idea how he did it. I just remember he had about double the HP I did. (Barb buff helps a lot too.) I did say nearly, not exactly. With just my channeling gear on and with barb buff I have about 6.8k, roughly. I have about 7.5k with HP/Vit gear on. Another problem you're going to face with 1-3 Drummer -> his damage increases as his HP goes down.