New skills for pet

Lind_Rind - Sanctuary wrote: »

im planning to get 3 skills for my magmite if possible(if i could delete it sandblow skill) so i was wondering if i could get a few opinion from exp venos around here...

the skills im getting is reflect, strong, and claw for my magmite so i was wondering if i shuld get them b4 i make my decision jus incase so that i wont waste money thx in advanceb:thanks

That's going to be one heck of a physical tank. Deleting sandblow is easy enough, just buy the forget scroll - and that will cost nothing compared to the rare scrolls you are proposing.

Is it a waste of money? Depends. Do you already have the herc?

Magmites are not worth investing in. Use and dispose.

The number of coins you're looking at for those rare-skill scrolls, you might as well get a herc (which has four rare skills built in)

The herc can (once it gets to a decent level) do everything the magmite can, but better. Only if you have some irrational objection to the herc should you stick with magmites to the end-game, really.

The interesting land pets are the ranged ones - they have some really odd uses.
You might want to consider a really fast pet (which would be the kowlin, or something like a lynxus or wolf) - but they don't really have the staying power to be tanks of any kind. Great for pulling (and, I hear, for PK)

But, if you don't intend to replace the golem then, humm. Claw and reflect means it's going to deal some serious damage to [?] monsters.
But... I don't see it surviving, even with strong, against all that many of them. Lots either have magic or just a ridiculously powerful physical attack. And of course there's the debuffs which can be cleared on barbs but which will stay on a pet.

Basically - what do you want to DO with this pet? And will those skills let you do it?

herc > improved magmite.

Cost of food is insignificant. Get some perfect cookies. Seen them selling for as low as 5k each, and they give herc/nix 200 loyalty. Get a blessing with that, and you will only spend a MAXIMUM of say 50k for food a week.

What pet and are you using it for pvp or tanking O.o
Pvp = Fleash realm
Tanking = Bash and maybe the elemental bash also if ur pet cannot hold agro. Maybe also tough? XD Idk but that has come in handy on my bear , like when i forget to heal and he is almost dead i use that to save him.

It hardly cost anything to keep a pet feed heck even my mount for my cleric has a tome to keep it loyal.You won't be able to TT the big bosses with a mag.I would suggest if you don't get an armoured bear.I would only upgrade bash on mag.They don't have good resale value as well.

Depends on the scroll. I think Blessing of the Pack (HP buff pet scroll) goes for like 50mil. Others are more or less depending on their importance. The reflect scroll will also go pretty high. Can't really say myself since I rarely see them in the market (yes, that rare).

When you get a Legendary pet their buff/support skills are maxed. Fleshream is good on the Nix, less so on the Herc though there is an argument for it. Herc isn't the best PvP pet so don't worry about it.

~If you don't think you're going to be getting a herc for a long while and are using a magmite, level up it's bash.

Mamiko_mao - Sanctuary wrote: »

The thing is the Herc really IS the best tanking pet for the sole reason that it has enough HP to survive a blow from a boss, whereas the Golem can't, even with buffs.

My Marksman can tank world bosses that my Herc get's one-shot by. Both are the same level. More: http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/petstat.php

Just check the database for the patk to matk (most world bosses have signficantly higher patk). Also note that matks take longer cast time so it's nice and steady.

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That said, using a Marksman to tank a world boss is not really practical. The marksman does only 3/4ths the base damage of a herc, and at range it cannot use aggro skills and there will be no reflect damage. This severely limits the amount of damage you or other party members (or their pets) can do without pulling aggro off the Marksman. Meaning it'll take you a lot longer to do it than with a proper tank. At 24 million hp for a world boss and a level 90 Marksman only doing 3162 damage every 2 sec, if you assume a modest 30% damage reduction and no hp regen, it'll take you 6 hours solo.

For tanking in a squad: yes - let a barb get repair bills.

Claw and Protect in general can be found cheaper than Blessing. I've picked up claw for 5m and 7m. -Same with Protect. Claw boosts the Marksman's dmg by 30% while Protect boosts it's defense giving you more time to attack while soloing. (which can bring the time down significantly by using Ironwood alone). Using an alt can bring it down some more. Everyone should know how to avoid aggro using their alts (like not using undine if wiz which is also a waste of MP for a single wiz). Now weigh this time against multiple squads, multiple deaths, half an hour of setup, repair costs, and your individual share for the time involved. At 92 I did it with an 84 alt in ~4 hours without using any pots and without even hitting with my veno (mistake). I'm 93 now and believe it could be done in less than 2 1/2 hours w/o pots using an alt by using Ironwood, Myriad Rainbow, Celestial Eruption, etc and an alt for free MP. The alternative would be to put an overpriced overhyped rare skill on a Herc in place of Pounce which would impair it's aggro holding and dmg significantly to the point that you may want an additional Herc.

Also keep in mind that tweakz's Marksman has Claw (the +30% damage buff on the phoenix), and Strong and Protect (the herc's defense buffs). Or maybe it was Bless and Protect. I would wait for someone else to verify that a world boss can be tanked by a vanilla Marksman before getting too enamored with the idea. (Aside from a debuff boss like Soul Hunter.)

I don't believe Strong is necessary to tank the WB's I've tested as their range attacks appear to be magic. I put Strong on my Marksman simply as a bonus because it works regardless of range and comes in handy for harpys in FF.