Cleric Rebirth Gamma

Bloodknight - Harshlands
Bloodknight - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
edited November 2009 in Cleric
Hello Guys,

I'm not the one playing cleric but my girlfriend is, and she is not the best at forums so i'll ask :)

I'll be going to do rebirth with her soon since she just passed the magical level 70 border. Except for the ornaments she got full TT70 LA set with flawless or higher HP shards which i got from auction.

As fas as i can see this would be good enough for Rebirth but what Phys/Mag resistance and HP am i looking for?

As fas as i calculated she would be having about 2.3K HP unbuffed with LA set. Would this be enough to do GV??

Greetz,
Bloodknight
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  • _Myrddin_ - Harshlands
    _Myrddin_ - Harshlands Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    i'll share my experience with you.

    every rebirth party is different.
    i did some gv that burned 100k of my hp charm, some others that burned 10k (yes for ep gv is really easy and cheap).
    it depends on the tank and on the level of the DD.
    but i would say that 3/3.5k of hp buffed are a must for gv.
    my worries are for your gf magic power.
    being LA her BB could not heal enough. i did my first gv at lv73 and i'm robe, at that time i was pure mag and with sakyamuni +2. i didnt healed enough the wizard and gv failed after 4th boss.
    but i repeat, its all a matter of how is good party.

    last things: usually ep tanks first boss. if you try gv with her, do not let her tank boss as long she is 80. she wouldnt do enough damage.
  • Jer - Dreamweaver
    Jer - Dreamweaver Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I think she needs 3.8k buffed.with HP charm =/

    And she may need help killing the 1st boss since Cleric's solo it
    so maybe the some1 helps her kill the boss in under 15minutes
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    She can do it if her squad is good. I started on lvl 74 being LA user, i don't remember my HP but the GV succeeded. If squad is good she will heal enough.
    What is true is that until level 80 she will need help DDing on first boss, unless she will tank it by charm burning (making GV runs crazily expensive).

    Only matter will be find a non-idiotic or failed squad that will bring her after 73-74-75. But if she plays good she won't have problems in doing it.
  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    She'll be fine...
    I finished my first gamma as a TT70 arcane with average citrines and no refines, with most of the squad being late 70s, wiz and barb in their 80s. That was before genies and blessings were introduced. So yeah.

    I mean the blessing alone virtually gives you an extra 10 levels while inside the instance, which should be more than enough to cover her lack of magic attack, being LA.
    As mentioned, the only problem may be her damage during stage 1 boss. Have her keep her eye on common chat; when she sees the 5min warning, have the archer and/or wiz come back to help dd if needed while you finish up with the chests in the first room.

    After that, it should be smooth sailing if the party knows what they're doing.
    b:dirty
  • Mandey - Dreamweaver
    Mandey - Dreamweaver Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I know the requirement lvl for gamma is low, but honestly you will find that once you hit 80 the dmg increase in your weapon from the TT80/gold 79 will make your success rate increase. Doesnt matter how good the squad is, if a cleric goes down its almost 90% certain someone is gonna be 1k'ed. And Personally the last boss does 3k dmg hit, if you die cuz you dont have 3k hp nonbuffed and cant even get close to heal your bm then you have issues.
    51 lvls in Calamity, **** whomever actually pressed the kick button on me, while I was at work no less, you coward.
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I know the requirement lvl for gamma is low, but honestly you will find that once you hit 80 the dmg increase in your weapon from the TT80/gold 79 will make your success rate increase. Doesnt matter how good the squad is, if a cleric goes down its almost 90% certain someone is gonna be 1k'ed. And Personally the last boss does 3k dmg hit, if you die cuz you dont have 3k hp nonbuffed and cant even get close to heal your bm then you have issues.

    You prolly have no idea of how much LA clerics can godly tank last boss AoE. If in my squads there aren't squishy wizzies, i heal the tank all the way long. If i need to BB is cause other DDs are being **** first, not to save my own ****.
  • Rumble - Harshlands
    Rumble - Harshlands Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    One of the posters here stated that RB Gamma is cheap for EP. I'm curious about this. I have heard that a run takes 2-3 hours to complete. I have both an mp and an hp charm. So perhaps my hp charm might (or might not tick a few times), but wouldn't my mp charm be crushed for 2-3 hours of BB? I only ask because I have yet to do a RB run. So is the clerics job to BB the whole time burning the charm or is BB only used rarely and the rest of the time is IH heals on tanks with an AoE heal thrown in every now and again? If it's a lot of BB it seems like it would be like any other instance and heavily expensive for the EP.
  • Vivre - Harshlands
    Vivre - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    What does EP stand for?

    And from what I hear, you get auras in the instance that regen your MP. Your charm will tick anyway though, so it's better to not be mp charmed for GV.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    What is this 'res' you speak of? b:cute
  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    There's this amazing thing called an mp aura inside that instance. There are other auras as well, that boost your attack, defence, give you chi and heal your hp. Each aura goes up to lvl5 in gamma.

    A level one in mp aura (doable at the very start if using a rainbow squad, or after the first boss if using a different setup) is enough to sustain bb without your charm ever ticking. Level 2 is needed to sustain barrage and dragons breath without charm ticks, but that one usually comes after stage 6.

    And on the subject of the last boss, a well timed plume shell + ironheart on the barb keeps any cleric alive. Get bb back up just as its about to run out, and when you get stunned hit plume shell again and go back to ironhearting while waiting for bb to cooldown.

    Edit: EP = Elf Priest. Engrish for cleric in MY-EN version.
    b:dirty
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited October 2009

    Edit: EP = Elf Priest. Engrish for cleric in MY-EN version.
    somehow... the only thing that pops in my mind from EP is Epeenb:surrender
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  • Bloodknight - Harshlands
    Bloodknight - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Hi all,

    First of all i'll be the barb running with her at least the first two or three times. I can get aggro so that her charm woul'n't tick more then two or three times. Yes i do know magic power is needed to do BB and the higher the better, but she will be wearing a sakyumuni's light +5 with two immaculate spahhire shards in them. That will make up the difference from the lower magic stats due to LA.

    Seems as cleric is as the opposite of barb in RB, Barb sweats for 3 hours, cleric relaxes for 3 hours lol.

    Anyways thnx for the heads up, seems as she will be ready to go at level 75ish.

    Oh and does - channeling gear work just as it would with a wizards DB? i mean if she got like -12 channeling gear wouldn't BB heal more? just like a wizards DB would damage more often?
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I'm pretty sure that -chann doesnt make any difference. Anyway, LA > AA for RB, no way.


    PS bring me on RB sometimes b:cry there is a terrible lack of good GV barbs lately... b:cry
  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Oh and does - channeling gear work just as it would with a wizards DB? i mean if she got like -12 channeling gear wouldn't BB heal more? just like a wizards DB would damage more often?

    -channeling doesn't effect either. The only thing -chan does is reduce the time needed to start the skill (the loading bar you see when you hit a skill). It does absolutely nothing in terms of DB damage or BB heals.
    b:dirty
  • Bloodknight - Harshlands
    Bloodknight - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I've seen you asking for Barbs in harshland before i think Lenyel :P. but to be honest, i just can't afford the charm costs anymore. A gold HP charm which will be 75% done after a GV costs me 1.3 mil. And with only a chance on immaculate shard drops and barely get my repair costs on coin drops, it's just not worth it for me anymore.

    I will go on GV if one squad member is willing to sell my a gold charm for 600K or less. Tthen it's worth it.

    Normally about 600K in coins drop from the mushroom mob, i have 500K repair costs.

    I think that's why alot of barbs stopped doing GV. I do my BH every once in a while while one of my faction members need FB 69, Other then that i level my alts like my veno to go farm TT.

    Ah ty Ninnuam :) i never really grasped how channeling worked ( till last night, my wizard got essential sutra :P ). So always nice to have people give good info.
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I've seen you asking for Barbs in harshland before i think Lenyel :P. but to be honest, i just can't afford the charm costs anymore. A gold HP charm which will be 75% done after a GV costs me 1.3 mil. And with only a chance on immaculate shard drops and barely get my repair costs on coin drops, it's just not worth it for me anymore.

    I will go on GV if one squad member is willing to sell my a gold charm for 600K or less. Tthen it's worth it.

    Normally about 600K in coins drop from the mushroom mob, i have 500K repair costs.

    I think that's why alot of barbs stopped doing GV. I do my BH every once in a while while one of my faction members need FB 69, Other then that i level my alts like my veno to go farm TT.

    Ah ty Ninnuam :) i never really grasped how channeling worked ( till last night, my wizard got essential sutra :P ). So always nice to have people give good info.


    I am friend of barbs b:sad Let's go TT, you get mats, you sell mats, you bu charm! And we GV b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle