Demon skills, hp/pdef question

Anubisdrak - Sanctuary
Anubisdrak - Sanctuary Posts: 89 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Wizard
I'm wondering wether to up my ults for later, but I've also heard that even if you have the skill books you'll need to pay even more money to learn that skill >_> is that true? If so should i save a few mils to upgrade my 3 basics after cult?

And: Which is better to shard with? hp shards or pdef shards? I've thought hp would be better for awhile, since it works for us in means of, if theres a boss or something thats does magic attacks and still hits us for alot, even with our res is high. But I've been testing stone barrier out a bit, and if i had alot of high grade pdef shards in my armor and use it, itd jump my pdef up alot. Thing is im pure and even if i have alot of pdef if i got shot by an archer and they crit it wouldnt take a whole lot more to finish me off, same with a cleric and that stupid plume shot

Help would be appreciated :D
Wiz: Joins squad
Wiz: Wiz is silent... <--code of honor kill quick and leave without saying a word.
Wiz: Stays in back incase they pull aggro (better for mob to run towards you then to be next to you, gives squad time to pull aggro from you)
Wiz: Wiz happens to pull aggro
Wiz: Wiz stands ground
Wiz: Wiz kills mob/ or is killed by mob
Wiz: Honorable death is seen by squad

<likes that xD, im either the quiet one or the active avid talker ;D
Post edited by Anubisdrak - Sanctuary on

Comments

  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I'd just level up the ults when you plan to use them. They were almost useless for me as LA and 8x (with a +2 weapon) but now that I'm 9x and arcane (+6 weapon) they are amazing. I'd probably wait on leveling them up.

    After you buy the book, to learn the skill it takes an additional 1mil coin and 1mil spirit (at least for 89 skills... haven't checked the others) so even if you got free books, it'd cost you 3mil for the 3 starter skills.

    Most wizards go for a mix of both shards. The general consensus is to get about 5k pdef (self buffed) and then shard the rest citrines.

    Hope that helps. :)
    Youtube Channel: youtube.com/user/D2VeT/videos?flow=grid&view=0
    Current gear: pwcalc.com/6ab2893fbfb080a8
    [SIGPIC]http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=684hgk&s=5[/SIGPIC]
  • TehMage - Lost City
    TehMage - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    And: Which is better to shard with? hp shards or pdef shards?
    Help would be appreciated :D

    In the end, it's better to shard with citrines because of dimishing returns on pdef when you keep stacking it.

    As Adroit said, work to get a minimum pdef self buffed and go from there. You can even have full citrines and have some refined pdef jewelry (neck/belt), which is what im shooting for in the end and just have full citrines in my gear.
  • Anubisdrak - Sanctuary
    Anubisdrak - Sanctuary Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Well i tried out a bit on a pdef belt, and all the bms and myself are completely lost :P

    3starred Amulet of the Fastidous+2
    so +250pdef
    with an extra +81 pdef

    I personally thought it was pretty good, i went and refined it just for the hell of it, with a total of 341 more pdef youd think id have at least 1k pdef, I equip it and on my character's screen it only shows up as +101 more pdef

    With all my gear on Belt im using now is Sundown Pendant +2 gives me 711pdef without any buff at all

    I have 812 pdef once i but that other belt on, anyone know what me and 4 other bms dont? :P
    Wiz: Joins squad
    Wiz: Wiz is silent... <--code of honor kill quick and leave without saying a word.
    Wiz: Stays in back incase they pull aggro (better for mob to run towards you then to be next to you, gives squad time to pull aggro from you)
    Wiz: Wiz happens to pull aggro
    Wiz: Wiz stands ground
    Wiz: Wiz kills mob/ or is killed by mob
    Wiz: Honorable death is seen by squad

    <likes that xD, im either the quiet one or the active avid talker ;D
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Well i tried out a bit on a pdef belt, and all the bms and myself are completely lost :P

    3starred Amulet of the Fastidous+2
    so +250pdef
    with an extra +81 pdef

    I personally thought it was pretty good, i went and refined it just for the hell of it, with a total of 341 more pdef youd think id have at least 1k pdef, I equip it and on my character's screen it only shows up as +101 more pdef

    With all my gear on Belt im using now is Sundown Pendant +2 gives me 711pdef without any buff at all

    I have 812 pdef once i but that other belt on, anyone know what me and 4 other bms dont? :P

    Was you wearing your previous belt when you added it on? Try not wearing a belt, then adding the AotF.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Anubisdrak - Sanctuary
    Anubisdrak - Sanctuary Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Was you wearing your previous belt when you added it on? Try not wearing a belt, then adding the AotF.

    *cough* Yeahhhhh i see our stupidity now >_>
    how 4 bms couldnt figure it out either makes me think i need new friends xD

    Also would Flawless Garnets rack my pdef up more? And how good are Reduce physical damage taken gear? My hat has +1% and my necklace has +1%, its an evasion necklace so im gonna look for a pdef necklace that still gives me some good hp
    Wiz: Joins squad
    Wiz: Wiz is silent... <--code of honor kill quick and leave without saying a word.
    Wiz: Stays in back incase they pull aggro (better for mob to run towards you then to be next to you, gives squad time to pull aggro from you)
    Wiz: Wiz happens to pull aggro
    Wiz: Wiz stands ground
    Wiz: Wiz kills mob/ or is killed by mob
    Wiz: Honorable death is seen by squad

    <likes that xD, im either the quiet one or the active avid talker ;D