AH mats overpriced

Shintera - Sanctuary
Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
edited October 2009 in General Discussion
simple really, i've seen people trying to sell nectar for 2k and pig iron for 3-5kk each it's horrible, yea you gotta pay alittle to use AH but that's like what 10% plus a short fee to use it. that calls for nowhere near 10k for just pig iron when I can spend like 2-3 minutes and get 1, they sell for 800-1.2k around arch, nectar for 700-900. rough fur for 10k each also when mats 3-4 levels higher are 1-2k. has anybody else noticed this inflation also. it's bad enough on newer players that the gold prices and such are going up muchless all their low level crafting mats at outrageous prices.

edit: should have thread named AH low mats overpriced
Post edited by Shintera - Sanctuary on

Comments

  • Morganna - Lost City
    Morganna - Lost City Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Shintera - Sanctuary wrote: »
    simple really, i've seen people trying to sell nectar for 2k and pig iron for 3-5kk each it's horrible, yea you gotta pay alittle to use AH but that's like what 10% plus a short fee to use it. that calls for nowhere near 10k for just pig iron when I can spend like 2-3 minutes and get 1, they sell for 800-1.2k around arch, nectar for 700-900. rough fur for 10k each also when mats 3-4 levels higher are 1-2k. has anybody else noticed this inflation also. it's bad enough on newer players that the gold prices and such are going up muchless all their low level crafting mats at outrageous prices.

    They should use the database to farm mats for themselves. I have bought mats from catshops all of.... once. In over a year, closed and open beta, just once. The information to find coords is just too available for it to be worth it to buy, most of the time.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Your multi-tasking, Stephanie, is EPIC." --Aadi
    --DISCLAIMER--"the precceding post is only the opinion of Morganna and is not placing blame or accusation on anyone or anything" THANK YOU Xeian <3
  • Shintera - Sanctuary
    Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Morganna - Lost City wrote: »
    They should use the database to farm mats for themselves. I have bought mats from catshops all of.... once. In over a year, closed and open beta, just once. The information to find coords is just too available for it to be worth it to buy, most of the time.

    this I do agree on, but either some people aren't aware of this (run into this alot), or don't have the time or patience to farm them (heaven help them later on in the game). but yea their alittle high for 1k per mat and 2-4k for rough fur and it's just horrible for the first 2 maby 3 levels of mats i havent looked into those ones yet. I just realized the major overprices when i was to impatient to mine so much and had over 200k coin so I felt up to bying them (also suports others income which does help also) but i'm not gonna pay such horrendous prices.
  • /Radar/ - Lost City
    /Radar/ - Lost City Posts: 358 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    basic mats: 800 per
    low mats: 1200 per
    mid mats: 2000 per

    those were the prices of mats when i joined dreamweaver server ~1week after it launched. high mats and top grade mats weren't available yet, so no idea what the "standard rate" on those would be
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Thanks Ophida for the cute siggy :3

    - retired 11/06/09
  • TheCorrupt - Sanctuary
    TheCorrupt - Sanctuary Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    EVERYTHING is overpriced. It currently costs 100 million coins to get a Herc or Nix, which is ridiculous. Crimson Flametalons are going for 10+ million coins and the minimal basic tomes are about 1.5 million each. This is why I no longer play. Everything is way too expensive and it takes the fun out of the game. You better have a good paying job, because you're going to have to spend a lot of money in this game to get the goodies.b:angry
  • Shintera - Sanctuary
    Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    /Radar/ - Lost City wrote: »
    basic mats: 800 per
    low mats: 1200 per
    mid mats: 2000 per

    those were the prices of mats when i joined dreamweaver server ~1week after it launched. high mats and top grade mats weren't available yet, so no idea what the "standard rate" on those would be

    i know the prices but that's not the point, it's what people are selling for. rough fur is normally sold for 3-4k only cause it's a rare mat some people try to sell for 6k+ and other instances, but knowing the base prices i'm already aware of but ty.
  • Morganna - Lost City
    Morganna - Lost City Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Shintera - Sanctuary wrote: »
    this I do agree on, but either some people aren't aware of this (run into this alot), or don't have the time or patience to farm them (heaven help them later on in the game). but yea their alittle high for 1k per mat and 2-4k for rough fur and it's just horrible for the first 2 maby 3 levels of mats i havent looked into those ones yet. I just realized the major overprices when i was to impatient to mine so much and had over 200k coin so I felt up to bying them (also suports others income which does help also) but i'm not gonna pay such horrendous prices.

    Farming, in case you didn't know, is actually a really great way to make money. Especially if you're farming mid mats. I would very much suggest that you get into the habit of it, because it would be very difficult for me to support my fash obsession without a good mat route. 500k or so a day can, in 2 days, get me an outfit I want... Or in 3, get me a mold I want. Such and so forth. It'd be funny if I farmed enough for a warsoul. But then I would have to give up rl.... Wouldn't I.....?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Your multi-tasking, Stephanie, is EPIC." --Aadi
    --DISCLAIMER--"the precceding post is only the opinion of Morganna and is not placing blame or accusation on anyone or anything" THANK YOU Xeian <3
  • /Radar/ - Lost City
    /Radar/ - Lost City Posts: 358 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Shintera - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i know the prices but that's not the point, it's what people are selling for. rough fur is normally sold for 3-4k only cause it's a rare mat some people try to sell for 6k+ and other instances, but knowing the base prices i'm already aware of but ty.

    rough fur has always ranged in actual price... i remember it being ~1.2k-2.5k per depending on how many sellers. that price jumped within a week of my joining tho, up to ~3k-4k per as you said

    the mat sales situation is rather depressing tbh, soon it will get to the point where it'll be cheaper to buy gold and get the mats from the cashshop
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Thanks Ophida for the cute siggy :3

    - retired 11/06/09
  • Shintera - Sanctuary
    Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    TheCorrupt - Sanctuary wrote: »
    EVERYTHING is overpriced. It currently costs 100 million coins to get a Herc or Nix, which is ridiculous. Crimson Flametalons are going for 10+ million coins and the minimal basic tomes are about 1.5 million each. This is why I no longer play. Everything is way too expensive and it takes the fun out of the game. You better have a good paying job, because you're going to have to spend a lot of money in this game to get the goodies.b:angry

    lol that's true more as of yet, and it'd be cheaper to upgrade your computer and get **** which as I hear it is a much better game. the economy got uterly bent over and **** the moment anni packs came out and greed went from occasional to an outstanding majority of the population, and even the Perfect iron hammer and the 1m coin box from the cube of fate makes gold prices never go under 200k again. either that needs to be taken out along with anni, or anni gone along with higher gold price on PIH or the economy will stay ruined forever. good luck getting new players with that hapning. well this isnt a rant thread so i'll stop there even though i could continue. but the fact is prices are too high when they used to be perfectly fine not even 3 weeks ago.
  • Morganna - Lost City
    Morganna - Lost City Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Shintera - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol that's true more as of yet, and it'd be cheaper to upgrade your computer and get **** which as I hear it is a much better game. the economy got uterly bent over and **** the moment anni packs came out and greed went from occasional to an outstanding majority of the population, and even the Perfect iron hammer and the 1m coin box from the cube of fate makes gold prices never go under 200k again. either that needs to be taken out along with anni, or anni gone along with higher gold price on PIH or the economy will stay ruined forever. good luck getting new players with that hapning. well this isnt a rant thread so i'll stop there even though i could continue. but the fact is prices are too high when they used to be perfectly fine not even 3 weeks ago.

    The prices are still fine if you go to catshops rather than AHing :)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Your multi-tasking, Stephanie, is EPIC." --Aadi
    --DISCLAIMER--"the precceding post is only the opinion of Morganna and is not placing blame or accusation on anyone or anything" THANK YOU Xeian <3
  • Shintera - Sanctuary
    Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Morganna - Lost City wrote: »
    Farming, in case you didn't know, is actually a really great way to make money. Especially if you're farming mid mats. I would very much suggest that you get into the habit of it, because it would be very difficult for me to support my fash obsession without a good mat route. 500k or so a day can, in 2 days, get me an outfit I want... Or in 3, get me a mold I want. Such and so forth. It'd be funny if I farmed enough for a warsoul. But then I would have to give up rl.... Wouldn't I.....?

    lol, I am in the habbit of it but occasionally I don't feel like it. when i just make an alt I dont feel like spending as much time raising it when my alt can just give him a couple hundred k and have all crafsts at 3 by lvl 10 at max. i mine all my mats and herbs and craft quite a bit. but lvl 1 mats are extremly easy, rough fur I may end up making an alt getting it to 20 (veno probably for the simplicity) and just mining rough furs and such for a few levels which should supply my assasin with plenty once it comes out. but the fact is i know mining but that's not the issue, it's people being greedy and not just overpricing by doubling it but over 3 times the price which some is already inflated from rarity.
  • Shintera - Sanctuary
    Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Morganna - Lost City wrote: »
    The prices are still fine if you go to catshops rather than AHing :)

    lol i got a crappy cpu and most the good cat shops are in west arch which would take me awhile to go through (fly time lagging over 3/4 of it) and would rather mine that go through the hell that is west arch right near the cat shops when it's bad enough flying over (worse when your up close) and i've got systems to min and high performance on (really need to upgrade my cpu). but yea i get what ur saying but that requres me to go to arch or well tele's in the starting villages (plume seems to be best). i'm just saying that those are only good past lvl 1 mats near archo and west being the main. AH is also more convient since it can be accessed by any major city 1k streams ect. it's also a great source for 3* gear before you get legendary cause the leg sold there is to much lol, that i'd rather get the mold for under 1/2 to 1/4 the price and make it myself imo.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Only time they become truly overpriced, is wen the cost of buying the mats via coin -> gold is cheaper than buying them from other players.


    That aside, it's easy enough to park yourself near a spot with a group of herbs/mats and mine them while you grind. Kills two bids with one stone, really. For things such as furs, glues, threads, and oils that can't be easily farmed.... well that's why they can get so expensive.

    Besides, your last post is a perfectly good reason for why they can make their prices so high. If you're oo lazy to get the mats yourself, why shouldn't they cash in on that. They grind the mats, you grind the coins. You can't have both of them coming in easily (assuming you don't use a catshop that buys/sell mats at a better rate than those nearby). Alternatively, you can do like me and never actually buy mats because you make sure to get plenty while they're still available to you or you have an alt that can get whichever mats you need.
  • Shintera - Sanctuary
    Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    truekossy wrote: »
    Only time they become truly overpriced, is wen the cost of buying the mats via coin -> gold is cheaper than buying them from other players.

    edit: rephrase that next time cause your order in how you said it is completly off --> means over and if cost of bing via cone is over gold is cheapr then buying is just out of wack.

    That aside, it's easy enough to park yourself near a spot with a group of herbs/mats and mine them while you grind. Kills two bids with one stone, really. For things such as furs, glues, threads, and oils that can't be easily farmed.... well that's why they can get so expensive.

    Besides, your last post is a perfectly good reason for why they can make their prices so high. If you're oo lazy to get the mats yourself, why shouldn't they cash in on that. They grind the mats, you grind the coins. You can't have both of them coming in easily (assuming you don't use a catshop that buys/sell mats at a better rate than those nearby). Alternatively, you can do like me and never actually buy mats because you make sure to get plenty while they're still available to you or you have an alt that can get whichever mats you need.

    Some of the points you've mentioned i've already said my arguments against if you actually read the thread, as for the others. Just because every so often i dont feel like mining a lvl 1 mat dont mean you can sell them for 3-5k each in comparison to people selling them for 800-1.2k and that's because they mined vs free for not the price is the cost for us being lazy. don't mean 3x that is in order whenever you feel like it you'll just get less to no customers at that price. and yea threads ect are higher but that's normally 3-4k because of it rather than 1.5-2k each for normal of lvl 2 not 10k instead of 3-5k i mean seriously. their is a limit and your reasoning wasn't entirely fiting into that cause those have already been accounted for by the original prices of the mats so plz dont say things that are plain common sence and have an actual good argument.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Shintera - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Some of the points you've mentioned i've already said my arguments against if you actually read the thread, as for the others. Just because every so often i dont feel like mining a lvl 1 mat dont mean you can sell them for 3-5k each in comparison to people selling them for 800-1.2k and that's because they mined vs free for not the price is the cost for us being lazy. don't mean 3x that is in order whenever you feel like it you'll just get less to no customers at that price. and yea threads ect are higher but that's normally 3-4k because of it rather than 1.5-2k each for normal of lvl 2 not 10k instead of 3-5k i mean seriously. their is a limit and your reasoning wasn't entirely fiting into that cause those have already been accounted for by the original prices of the mats so plz dont say things that are plain common sence and have an actual good argument.

    Already read your thread. No excuse for laziness because that's purely your fault if you choose to be lazy.

    Did you actually read MY post before trying to make your excuses? Until those level 1 mats in the AH cost more to buy than if you used your coin to get enough gold to get them from the boutique, they really aren't "overpriced". Anyone can sell anything for whatever price they want to. Doesn't mean they'll get customers, but they can do it and if nobody buys, they'll eventually either lower their prices or stop selling. That's pretty obvious, really. Besides, if YOU can find someone selling for 800-1200, why complain about the people who choose to lose out by selling for a higher price? Just take your business elsewhere and laugh at them.

    Again, I'd like you to actually read my post, use your brain, and try out common sense before you respond with a dull argument that basically says, "People shouldn't charge me more than I want to pay just because I don't feel like getting something myself,". It's redundant and quite silly to assume that. Plus while you may not pay that price, someone else probably will... and if I charge 3x the cost for something and get 1/3 the customers in a given time period, that simply means a higher potential gain if I'm looking long-term since I'll have a greater supply and be able to replenish it at an easier rate. If I'm unable to keep a decent profit margin, I'll change my prices or my material. If you don't like the prices, don't buy. It's that simple.

Categories