Maybe chose wrong path
CrazyLazy - Dreamweaver
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Hi i recently got to level 90 i have did my fb89 i went heaven. But now i think maybe i chose wrong path, ive been looking over the skills and man demon skills own fast chant and sandstorm gets a nice little power up in damage. True i like holy pyrogram chance to build chi but now im thinking i picked it for the chi gaining and saving. But if i wanted chi i would use a chi pot id rather hit like a truck. So my question Do i carry on playing my wizard or do i just get over it and make a new wizard and just level my **** off and go demon?
Everytime i Post it is my opinion and my view. I do not claim they are perfect its your choice what you do im just stating my opinion from experience. b:pleased
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Fail troll?
Keep playing your lvl 90 char, you terribaddie. Better yet, quit and give it to me.0 -
Hmm troll?
And i checked out another topic and they said just stack -chant. Would this perhaps compensate for the loss in -chant from the demon triple spark?Everytime i Post it is my opinion and my view. I do not claim they are perfect its your choice what you do im just stating my opinion from experience. b:pleased0 -
Demon spark isn't worth completely rerolling. And yes, stacking -chan gear can do that.0
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i dunno what makes u think demon hits so much harder... the masteries on sage give sage higher average damage. On top of that, the way we hit hard is with chi (sutra/ults) and you can use them more often (and they are better) for sage. You get some better control skills, and a few skills that have a little faster casting from demon. Another note, you should not be using chi pots as sage, being that you have a crapload of chi already, using invulverable pots or reduce dmg etc are what you should be using.Youtube Channel: youtube.com/user/D2VeT/videos?flow=grid&view=0
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I think it's kinda normal for some players second guessing the decision to demon or sage, thats why you gotta make the decision based on how you want to play your class before you do the culti, dont listen to what people say on here, its your decision, what matters is that you enjoy playing it with the decision you made.0
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I love heaven path.
For what I do it's the best choice.
+ i got dirt cheap books for my skills.____________
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ok thanks for all your advice. only reason i thought they hit harder was cause of that nice little boost during triple spark. Maybe i wont reroll. Just all these dam demon wizards saying best way to do my job is demon path. But ty and ill just use some dmg resist pots ect.Everytime i Post it is my opinion and my view. I do not claim they are perfect its your choice what you do im just stating my opinion from experience. b:pleased0
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CrazyLazy - Dreamweaver wrote: »ok thanks for all your advice. only reason i thought they hit harder was cause of that nice little boost during triple spark. Maybe i wont reroll. Just all these dam demon wizards saying best way to do my job is demon path. But ty and ill just use some dmg resist pots ect.
silly demons :P The difference between sage and demon is really small at best.. and I'd argue that sage is better at doing our job. Our job in TW is to drop Ults (which sage does much better than demon), or sutra a barb, or whatever uses of chi we can come up with. A demon mage should reroll if they think their job is to stun/control a single target in a TW. The only place a demon mage can really even talk is 1v1's, and even then, sage's chi building ability makes them about even in that catagory (in my opinion). The example that comes to mind was watching a 9x sage mage fight a 9x cleric. The mage couldn't really get through the clerics charm, but was able to get like 3 Blade Tempests off in probably 2 mins or less... and the last killed the cleric. I think the cleric was down to like 70% hp for that one so it took them down, but the point is that regular skills weren't even getting close to getting through the clerics charm, so the tiny advantage demon would have with faster channeling and maybe the slight chance on control skills probably could have ticked the clerics charm an extra time, but really, the only way to win was to have chi (which is where sage comes in)Youtube Channel: youtube.com/user/D2VeT/videos?flow=grid&view=0
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CrazyLazy - Dreamweaver wrote: »ok thanks for all your advice. only reason i thought they hit harder was cause of that nice little boost during triple spark. Maybe i wont reroll. Just all these dam demon wizards saying best way to do my job is demon path. But ty and ill just use some dmg resist pots ect.
quoted from a sage mage:
"I laugh as i watch demon wizards pray their stone rain stuns or else they are ****ed"Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Adroit - Lost City wrote: »i dunno what makes u think demon hits so much harder... the masteries on sage give sage higher average damage. On top of that, the way we hit hard is with chi (sutra/ults) and you can use them more often (and they are better) for sage. You get some better control skills, and a few skills that have a little faster casting from demon. Another note, you should not be using chi pots as sage, being that you have a crapload of chi already, using invulverable pots or reduce dmg etc are what you should be using.
actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st timei cause myself emotional pain...but i always come back 4 more...0 -
Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st time
i seen a demon wizard and i played a friends sage wizard. THE SAGE CHI IS ****ING INSANE! The demon wizards in my guild take FOREVER just to get enough for triple spark. My friend sage wizard can spam ultis like demon wizards spam pyro>gushSins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st time
could we PLEASE! stop having ppl that haven't even reach Demon/Sage culti on a private server give opinions about how sage/demon game play is?
I read a FKIN' lot about sage and demon and talked with both sage/demon endgame wizards. NONE, ABSOLUTELY NONE of them could really make me realize what a chi gain a sage wizard has. The speed at which a sage wizard can build chi is absolutely insane. Play one first then come back and talk later.
Demon wizard has more control skills (stuns effect added) and higher DPS (demon spark) with added dmg on a SINGLE TARGET. Sage wizard has better defense and more attk power via Ultimates and masteries to MULTIPLE TARGETS.____________
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Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st time
attention to lowbie wizard trying to give advise for things twice your level, you are WRONG. Get off the forums and go level.Youtube Channel: youtube.com/user/D2VeT/videos?flow=grid&view=0
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Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st time
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Its all about what you enjoy and how you play. I LOVE demon wiz. But then I picked up the Demon Stone Barrier. Once its all said and done, the difference isn't that great, I channel faster and hit harder on some spells as demon. They have masteries that bump all dmg and build chi faster etc. But lets face it sutra has a cool down time and demon spark OWNS. It would be awfully nice to throw down with some extra ulti's, but problem really isn't getting the chi for ulti's...its surviving to do 2-3 in a row.
All about what YOU want!0 -
Adroit - Lost City wrote: »attention to lowbie wizard trying to give advise for things twice your level, you are WRONG. Get off the forums and go level.
Yes suh!Taurzo - Lost City wrote: »I don't know whether to laugh or cry....
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Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st time
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LMFAO, my GOD I've never laughed so hard. Epic post.0 -
umm exactly how do u know Paizz doesnt have a wiz thats over 89 that is a sage/demon and this is that person reroll?0
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Rhugiga - Dreamweaver wrote: »umm exactly how do u know Paizz doesnt have a wiz thats over 89 that is a sage/demon and this is that person reroll?
Because that post is so horrible any sane wiz at that level would feel insulted to be the same class as whoever made it.0 -
@ the OP
I honestly don't think you should reroll, because of all the time you spent into that character, might as well stick it out cause end game is only what 5-10 lvls away. Starting all over again will take along time, but then again some ppl have that kind of time on their hands
To all those others who say demon doesn't get enough chi. Demon does get enough chi. Just because sage has holy pyro and that chi skill doesnt mean youre gonna be alive long enough to cast loads of ults.
And also, i have tried out the pro's and con's of sage/demon. The sage masteries i will admit do add some more dmg which in turn can save your life but its not a deal breaker. The crit you get on the dark side is more noticable than you guys think.
One last thing, the dooms. Both of the sage/demon side's dooms do the same amount of dmg with the exception of holy BIDS ofc. Yet i've been wanting to test it out just to see if it REALLY crits more than dark BIDS, but im lazy lol.
Anyways my 2 cents. Keep in mind, choose the path you will enjoy, not the path that EVERYONE ELSE wants you to play. b:victoryb:bye0 -
Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st time
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Because that post is so horrible any sane wiz at that level would feel insulted to be the same class as whoever made it.
(>.<)
lols~~~!!!
but yar Paizz really should find out what kind of bonuses sage/demon actually gives first before shooting out weird gibberish.
(o.o)' curse you successful troll~!!! who actually has people who want you to tank! QQ~ lol me guessing absolutely none of the people who Paizz has met is a bm or barb?Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, if the wizard does go demon, they r therefore a powerhouse yet the draw back 4 a demon wizzy is the channelling length that sage has over demon an the chi aspect to, if uve played ur wizard like a all out person, like me i tank when i know i can an if every1 wants me 2 >.> (dont ask) but then u should have gone demon, otherwise, if uve played it safe, go sage, so the only thing u can do really, is make another wizzard an go demon then decide 4 urself whether u picked the right direction the 1st time
okie @OP mayhaps you missed this because you probably oracle leveled, daily quested without really playing, or something. But wizards get really nice skills which can't be used to it's full power until after you level up a bit more.
examples = gush/SS/ all 3 ulties/ essential sutra.
yar the spells are decent even nice. O.o but they get really good when you max em out (spell wise and equipment wise).
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Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »could we PLEASE! stop having ppl that haven't even reach Demon/Sage culti on a private server give opinions about how sage/demon game play is?
I read a FKIN' lot about sage and demon and talked with both sage/demon endgame wizards. NONE, ABSOLUTELY NONE of them could really make me realize what a chi gain a sage wizard has. The speed at which a sage wizard can build chi is absolutely insane. Play one first then come back and talk later.
Demon wizard has more control skills (stuns effect added) and higher DPS (demon spark) with added dmg on a SINGLE TARGET. Sage wizard has better defense and more attk power via Ultimates and masteries to MULTIPLE TARGETS.
actually, i know quite a bit even though my wizard is not yet a sage/demon wizard, i know plenty of other ppl who play a sage or demon wizard an ive done plenty of studyin up on this stuff so i can a idea of what way i want 2 go an that is my opinion but if u dont like it thats ui cause myself emotional pain...but i always come back 4 more...0 -
im confused as 2 what u meanby that comment, could any1 plz clarify?i cause myself emotional pain...but i always come back 4 more...0
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myforumaccountwoot wrote: »Succesful troll is sucessful
okay, so im confused as 2 what myforumaccountwoot means...im terrible sorry lol, im still gettin the hang of the slang used >.> ive almost got it down but yea...btw--ignore the other post w/out a quote, i thought i had put the quote in it >.<i cause myself emotional pain...but i always come back 4 more...0 -
Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually, i know quite a bit even though my wizard is not yet a sage/demon wizard, i know plenty of other ppl who play a sage or demon wizard an ive done plenty of studyin up on this stuff so i can a idea of what way i want 2 go an that is my opinion but if u dont like it thats uPaizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »okay, so im confused as 2 what myforumaccountwoot means...im terrible sorry lol, im still gettin the hang of the slang used >.> ive almost got it down but yea...
You have no clue whatsoever about sage/demon for a wizard. Not only is your analysis of the skills wrong, you've actually got the facts wrong as well..
I really can't tell if you are a troll or just clueless.. but I'm going to assume you are clueless. A troll is someone that says stuff just to cause problems (i.e. going around saying that some person is giving away free stuff and have everyone message them... totally not true but causes that person to get spammed). So basically you either are a troll, or you are so off that people think you are trying to be a troll, I just can't tell b:chuckleYoutube Channel: youtube.com/user/D2VeT/videos?flow=grid&view=0
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Adroit - Lost City wrote: »You have no clue whatsoever about sage/demon for a wizard. Not only is your analysis of the skills wrong, you've actually got the facts wrong as well..
I really can't tell if you are a troll or just clueless.. but I'm going to assume you are clueless. A troll is someone that says stuff just to cause problems (i.e. going around saying that some person is giving away free stuff and have everyone message them... totally not true but causes that person to get spammed). So basically you either are a troll, or you are so off that people think you are trying to be a troll, I just can't tell b:chuckle
honestly, if u dont like me, just keep ur comments 2 urself, im allowed 2 say sumthing if i want, im not sayin any1 has 2 listen 2 me but i do know what im talking abouti cause myself emotional pain...but i always come back 4 more...0 -
Paizz - Heavens Tear wrote: »honestly, if u dont like me, just keep ur comments 2 urself, im allowed 2 say sumthing if i want, im not sayin any1 has 2 listen 2 me but i do know what im talking about
lol I don't dislike you per say... but I can tell you that you do not know what you are talking about lolYoutube Channel: youtube.com/user/D2VeT/videos?flow=grid&view=0
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