whats with using safety lock in PK?

Originally it wasn't. When PKers found out that Safety Lock removed the penalty of dropping, they used it to their advantage. So the shatter system was introduced.

Although there's the risk of shatter, it's free to not have anything dropped.

I don't think safety lock always worked like that. I think they introduced shattering and safety lock not dropping items at similar times due to a loophole a hacker could use. I could be wrong and it always worked like that though.

SneakyStalk - Harshlands wrote: »

PKers fully use the Safety Lock system to random pk for free and disrupt other people's gaming.

how is it disrupting someones gaming if on a pvp server.. pvp is gaming? <_<

to keep redies from putting on saftey lock and have no penalty at allb:laugh

Whatever you like or not - this game is pvp based (well for me it is). So, unless the guardian scroll will be buy able at NPC, safety lock is a very welcomed thing. Why ? Look at the scroll prices that ppl are selling. Its ridiculous - if you want to pvp - each death you are giving away like 60k+ (prices are different time to time) - c'mon, i've seen enough ppl standing in sz or just grinding and not pvping, cos they dont have or cant afford buying these scrolls. Shatter gear is ok - you think 4% is too low ? Heh, well, sure, make it like 30% and noone will pvp again...that would be fun, right ? For carebears, maybe. I bet all of you, who are kinda annoyed about the safe lock, are guardian scroll sellers or just pissed cos you've spent loads of $ just for the damn scrolls (dolls).
Besides, if you're not willing to pvp - go to pve server and stick on your HH runs, ffs.

Can't beat them? join them b:laugh

stop the drama, safety lock is there to people that wana kill all that moves.

Since pk doesnt give us good rewards (we need a miracle for players drop his stuff), its fair enougth we have a system that doesnt make us drop stuff. The shatter % is fair enougth, cause when we shatter we need to repair it and at high levels on good gear it wont be 2 mirages but 6 or even more. My leggins shattered and I needed 4 to repair (TT 80 green leggins).

People can still using GAs, and unlike us they dont have the shatter %, plus they can sell and buy stuff cause safety lock is off.

Bruxie - Harshlands wrote: »

My suggestion :

If you can't drop items when safety lock is on you should not be able to pick up items either. b:laughb:laughb:laugh As simple as that.

And you have become dumb with your dumb "suggestion". As simple as that b:laugh

Shinsen - Lost City wrote: »

And you have become dumb with your dumb "suggestion". As simple as that b:laugh

I feel sorry for people who resort to insults because they can't defend their point.

I bet you're one of those safety lock abusers who don't insta kill lower levels but first make sure they return attack so they go pink and have a higher chance to drop something from their inventory.

I still defend my point which is fair IMO. PK at will but if you can't drop items (using the cheap safety lock trick) you should not be able to pick up items either. I can only hope the devs will consider this.

Bruxie - Harshlands wrote: »

I feel sorry for people who resort to insults because they can't defend their point.

I bet you're one of those safety lock abusers who don't insta kill lower levels but first make sure they return attack so they go pink and have a higher chance to drop something from their inventory.

I still defend my point which is fair IMO. PK at will but if you can't drop items (using the cheap safety lock trick) you should not be able to pick up items either. I can only hope the devs will consider this.

LOL?

its fine the way it is, cause if we kill someone and he drops stuff, its rigth to come to us and we should be able to pick it up.

I didnt used safety lock till the day I entered in a PK feast, we were like 15 people in SP it was a big confusion, low levels, mid levels and high levels killing each other. I was white and didnt had GAs and safety lock was OFF, I leaved safe zone and started attacking. After a few seconds I used aoe and killed a low level by mistake, unfortunaly the low level was white... and I went red-named.
I manage to escape alive to a safe zone, but almost died in there and if I died I would drop stuff from gear... like a tauran capeb:sad

Since that day i dont want to take any risks while red name, thats why me and many people use safety lock, the only ones that complain against safety are low levels, cause low levels dont work to get good gear, while 80+ players need days off work and when you reach 90+ some stuff need weeks of work to get and we dont deserve to lost something that cost 50 millions or more while pking.

Safety Lock is still worth more than dolls ... (Guardian Scrolls)

With Safety lock, and your a fullout pk'er, you may possibley drop(Only Possible)
Perhaps say 10 mirages? From after getting killed say like 20 times .....

10 mirages is about 200k.

If Dolls were used, then it would equal to about close to 2m!

Bruxie - Harshlands wrote: »

I feel sorry for people who resort to insults because they can't defend their point.

I bet you're one of those safety lock abusers who don't insta kill lower levels but first make sure they return attack so they go pink and have a higher chance to drop something from their inventory.

I still defend my point which is fair IMO. PK at will but if you can't drop items (using the cheap safety lock trick) you should not be able to pick up items either. I can only hope the devs will consider this.

All I', saying that your suggestion that safety lock users couldn't pick up anything is just simply dumb. Why ? First of all, grinding and questing - so you basically wanna say that if you are a pk, you can't do sht and just have to wait in sz.....or pk more and still wait for "pk hours" to go off. Also, if you do pk - its means your "victim" is not hitting back. And if you kill a white named one - most likely he wont drop anything, so there's nothing to pick up anyway. In pvp it's the same - if you hit back - consider the risk you might drop smth if you die..unless you have safe lock. When there were only guardian angels (no safe lock function) i remember mass pvps - everyone is pvping until dolls run out - then all sit in sz or go questing....15 mins of pvp and 2 days of grind to buy more dolls....and now ppl pvp more and more - isn't this what we all want ? (carebears, please skip this one)
Safe lock is ok the way it is now.

p.s. nope, you're wrong about how i do my pvp/pk and i wont explain myself to you. No need. 'Cos somehow i think you might be the one who gets pked and therefore get annoyed, so you wanna f....up the safe lock so you could grind with ease.

Shinsen - Lost City wrote: »

All I', saying that your suggestion that safety lock users couldn't pick up anything is just simply dumb. Why ? First of all, grinding and questing - so you basically wanna say that if you are a pk, you can't do sht and just have to wait in sz.....or pk more and still wait for "pk hours" to go off. Also, if you do pk - its means your "victim" is not hitting back. And if you kill a white named one - most likely he wont drop anything, so there's nothing to pick up anyway. In pvp it's the same - if you hit back - consider the risk you might drop smth if you die..unless you have safe lock. When there were only guardian angels (no safe lock function) i remember mass pvps - everyone is pvping until dolls run out - then all sit in sz or go questing....15 mins of pvp and 2 days of grind to buy more dolls....and now ppl pvp more and more - isn't this what we all want ? (carebears, please skip this one)
Safe lock is ok the way it is now.

p.s. nope, you're wrong about how i do my pvp/pk and i wont explain myself to you. No need. 'Cos somehow i think you might be the one who gets pked and therefore get annoyed, so you wanna f....up the safe lock so you could grind with ease.

No, I'm simply anoyed by the fact that red names when killed in pvp will never drop anything because of this trick. I don't even have the satisfaction to know if their gear was shattered b:angry.