what skills should i get now?

Deckardx - Sanctuary
Deckardx - Sanctuary Posts: 10 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Cleric
Im a lvl 57 cleric. I have Ironheart 10, vanguard 10, magic shell 10, spirits gift 10, plume shot 10, plume shell 10, great cyclone 10, revive 6, razor feathers 3, the rest r lvl 1 purify, chrom healing beam, el seal, dim seal, silent seal, chrom seal, sirens kiss, weild thunder.
I have phys def of 884 elemental def of approximately 3000 for most of them. magic attack of about 2400. 2578 hp. 4842 mp. i get most of my experience from the bounty hunter and hou gensi. i almost never use regular quests any more. i spend at least 50% of the time buying and selling things so I can afford good equipment and the highest lvl shards possible so far and many sockets. my vit is 54 and i havent been adding to it for a while. at what point if ever do i need more vitality? how much vitality do u need for the end game?
I was wondering how much experience you get from solo aoe? hom much xp and sp per hour at lvl 59? what mobs r the best for solo aoe? Im not sure whether it makes sense to increase my razor feathers and other skills for solo aoe. i think i should get blue bubble and tempest when i get to 59. should I increase metal mastery, weild thunder? i find it disturbing that most of the seals at level 1 do nothing. do they work better at higher levels? are bosses always immune to seals even high level seals?
I would appreciate any knowledgeable input from higher lvl clerics.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Deckardx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Im a lvl 57 cleric. I have Ironheart 10, vanguard 10, magic shell 10, spirits gift 10, plume shot 10, plume shell 10, great cyclone 10, revive 6, razor feathers 3, the rest r lvl 1 purify, chrom healing beam, el seal, dim seal, silent seal, chrom seal, sirens kiss, weild thunder.

    Leave your skills alone for now. Save up for Regeneration Aura (Blue Bubble) and Tempest if you have extra $$ and Spirit. Heaven's Wraith is nice, but not a necessity and not used often.

    I have phys def of 884 elemental def of approximately 3000 for most of them. magic attack of about 2400. 2578 hp. 4842 mp. i get most of my experience from the bounty hunter and hou gensi. i almost never use regular quests any more. i spend at least 50% of the time buying and selling things so I can afford good equipment and the highest lvl shards possible so far and many sockets. my vit is 54 and i havent been adding to it for a while. at what point if ever do i need more vitality? how much vitality do u need for the end game?

    You should not even worry about sharding anything nor socketing until maybe level 70 armor.

    IMO -- You should be fine with 50 vit.

    I was wondering how much experience you get from solo aoe? hom much xp and sp per hour at lvl 59? what mobs r the best for solo aoe? Im not sure whether it makes sense to increase my razor feathers and other skills for solo aoe.

    I would not worry about this until level 60-65 at the minimum. But you will need your purify to be increased by 3-4 levels and possibly your razor feathers by about 1-2 levels (depending on mobs).

    i think i should get blue bubble and tempest when i get to 59.

    Answered above.

    should I increase metal mastery, weild thunder?

    Metal Mastery MUCH better at later levels when you have the extra exp. Same with Weild of Thunder. You have through your 60's and 70's to level many of your skills.

    i find it disturbing that most of the seals at level 1 do nothing. do they work better at higher levels?

    I kept my seals relatively low until about mid 7x-low 8x.

    are bosses always immune to seals even high level seals?

    Not all no...in fact very few.

    I would appreciate any knowledgeable input from higher lvl clerics.

    Weeee....Wall of Text...ok...I had to break things down b:surrender

    With skills....you do not need to level them all up at once. There are many that shine much better later on and in your 8x's is when you will see extra exp. the issue in leveling for many comes down to $$.

    *** Do ALL of your quests. There is good/decent exp and spirit in them and you will learn new areas better that you can possibly go back too for grinding.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I agree with Rose, but I didn't see you mention Wellspring Surge, I would max that if you havent already.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    I agree with Rose, but I didn't see you mention Wellspring Surge, I would max that if you havent already.

    Definitely.....b:surrender Kinda skipped though on the skills b:chuckle
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  • Deckardx - Sanctuary
    Deckardx - Sanctuary Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    ok at lvl 59 blue bubble and tempest but between now and lvl 66 what other skills should i level. i shouldnt have to spend all my points on tempest and blue bubble should I? and by the way, blessing of the purehearted is I believe a complete waste of time. As far as I know blue bubble, Ironheart, stream of rejuvenation, chromatic healing beam are the only healing skills worth leveling.
  • Deckardx - Sanctuary
    Deckardx - Sanctuary Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    im sorry i think wellspring surge is a complete waste of effort.
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Tempest is a must for competent AoE grinding + it's hawt. BB is a must for TT and Zhen parties. I really like Wellspring myself, not so much on Stream or Chromatic. However, in Chromatic's defense, it's saved a tick or two on my charm when our tank for FB99 was an archer.
  • Flickerfae - Sanctuary
    Flickerfae - Sanctuary Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Deckardx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ok at lvl 59 blue bubble and tempest but between now and lvl 66 what other skills should i level. i shouldnt have to spend all my points on tempest and blue bubble should I? and by the way, blessing of the purehearted is I believe a complete waste of time. As far as I know blue bubble, Ironheart, stream of rejuvenation, chromatic healing beam are the only healing skills worth leveling.

    You may find yourself spending more than you want to. I just got Tempest today... it costs upwards of 87,000 spirit, and BB isn't much better. b:surrender

    Consider getting the group buffs (they last longer, and save buffing time), and, for the FSM's sake, level Revive. No, it doesn't do you much good, but your friends and faction mates will thank you for it. Same goes with purify... I seem to recall that fb 59 is the first fb where a Purify with a fast cooldown really comes in handy.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Deckardx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    im sorry i think wellspring surge is a complete waste of effort.

    sorry, but many other clerics totally disagree with this, it is a life saver.

    For example: I accidently aggro a mob that deals around 1200-1300 damage a hit in HH. I can survive if I spam wellspring on myself because it heals roughly half my max hp when maxed.

    Try doing that with ironheart and you will die.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Leave your skills alone for now. Save up for Regeneration Aura (Blue Bubble) and Tempest if you have extra $$ and Spirit. Heaven's Wraith is nice, but not a necessity and not used often.
    I agree with Rose as well but one thing you need to be in the next Culti. lvl before you can get these skills.You have to do your FB59 to get these as well as double spark.You need to get Regen Stream first before you get Arura as in tree.I would lvl up Wellspring Surge as well.

    Heaven Wrath is good if soloing TT with Veno with Herc.
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  • Deckardx - Sanctuary
    Deckardx - Sanctuary Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    ok perhaps wellspring surge would not be a complete waste of time, but cant I level up stream of rejuvenation and use that instead of wellspring surge? and please answer question about aoe grind. what are the best 6x mobs for aoe grind, and how much experience and spirit can i get in one hour of grinding these particular mobs.
  • Soul_Thunder - Sanctuary
    Soul_Thunder - Sanctuary Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    stream of rejuvenation and wellspring surge are completely different things.

    wellspring surge is used as a life saver because of it's short channeling time, makes it a very fast heal for a descent amount of hp.

    i am not sure about the usage of stream of rejuvenation though, sorry about that. in my opinion, it isn't really a heal that is used that often.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    They are completely different skills read the skill and it will tell you exactly.
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Deckardx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ok perhaps wellspring surge would not be a complete waste of time, but cant I level up stream of rejuvenation and use that instead of wellspring surge?

    Stream takes 1 second longer than wellspring to get off a cast - and yes that can be the difference between life and death when spam healing yourself or another squishie.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    This thread being on skills.I was wondering if it would be good idea to lvl up Celestial Guardian Seal to 10.I know I have a few more priority skills to lvl up first.I was thinking of the all party buff 10 lvls from now.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • drmarley
    drmarley Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Soul_Thunder - Sanctuary wrote: »
    stream of rejuvenation and wellspring surge are completely different things.

    wellspring surge is used as a life saver because of it's short channeling time, makes it a very fast heal for a descent amount of hp.

    i am not sure about the usage of stream of rejuvenation though, sorry about that. in my opinion, it isn't really a heal that is used that often.
    Surge has a slower cast but is a stronger heal. I use it when I'm solo healing and IH isn't enough - the tanks HP goes down slowly. Sometimes Surge is enough to push it up... it's kind of hard to explain.
  • Deathrowjr - Sanctuary
    Deathrowjr - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Deckardx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ok perhaps wellspring surge would not be a complete waste of time, but cant I level up stream of rejuvenation and use that instead of wellspring surge? and please answer question about aoe grind. what are the best 6x mobs for aoe grind, and how much experience and spirit can i get in one hour of grinding these particular mobs.
    Just level up Wellspring Surge, it's your other primary target heal other than to Ironheart.
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This thread being on skills.I was wondering if it would be good idea to lvl up Celestial Guardian Seal to 10.I know I have a few more priority skills to lvl up first.I was thinking of the all party buff 10 lvls from now.
    CGS should only be leveled when you have extra spirit and gold; you have other skills that need maxing, and if you leveled up CGS too much, your gonna be low on spirit for other useful spells (IE: All your buffs)
    drmarley wrote: »
    Surge has a slower cast but is a stronger heal. I use it when I'm solo healing and IH isn't enough - the tanks HP goes down slowly. Sometimes Surge is enough to push it up... it's kind of hard to explain.
    Er I thought Surge was faster was it not? It's been a while since I logged on; too lazy to check. Just assuming since Stream costs like twice the MP usage, and has both the effects of Surge and IH.
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This thread being on skills.I was wondering if it would be good idea to lvl up Celestial Guardian Seal to 10.I know I have a few more priority skills to lvl up first.I was thinking of the all party buff 10 lvls from now.

    If you have the skills you want maxed out or nearly maxed out already and have the all-important BB, you can get it just for the squad buff. My cleric is FAC and her skills are looking really sweet right now. I do intend to get squad buffs at some point just because I like the animations (though it would make buffing my Wizzy helpers easier).

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