Need advice on tanking TT2-1 and 1-3

Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Dungeons & Tactics
ok im level 77 now and i think its time i should start farming mats for my TT80
so far i only tanked 1-1 and 1-2 and well my hp isnt that high and i cant afford charms but i do want to do higher runs so i can get money and the mats for my TT80

i only have 8.5k hp buffed in tiger form and i can afford event food so would this be enough to tank 2-1 and 1-3
its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
just try to be a good person

english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ok im going off pretty tired so if anyone responds what i really hope i cant respond back til tommorow
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If you exclude Drum boss and Soulbanisher, you definitely can tank TT1-3.

    I *think* you can also tank Drum boss.

    I have no idea about Soulbanisher.

    I suggest skipping the Drum boss and Soulbanisher, then go back and do them after you've killed the rest.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If you exclude Drum boss and Soulbanisher, you definitely can tank TT1-3.

    I *think* you can also tank Drum boss.

    I have no idea about Soulbanisher.

    I suggest skipping the Drum boss and Soulbanisher, then go back and do them after you've killed the rest.

    He should be able to tank all the bosses, drum is physical AOE, so he would be ok there, the Soulbanisher is a royal pain in the butt, but as long as you get 2 clerics, you should also be ok, one with BB, the other healing you if needed, if not, he can DD or RB, if you have more people in squad.
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  • Feyrnd - Sanctuary
    Feyrnd - Sanctuary Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ok im level 77 now and i think its time i should start farming mats for my TT80
    so far i only tanked 1-1 and 1-2 and well my hp isnt that high and i cant afford charms but i do want to do higher runs so i can get money and the mats for my TT80

    i only have 8.5k hp buffed in tiger form and i can afford event food so would this be enough to tank 2-1 and 1-3

    you can definately tank 2-1
    for 1-3, you can safely tank drum boss, but for soulbanisher you will need 2 clerics
    btw, how much is your after buffed HP in tiger form?
  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ok im level 77 now and i think its time i should start farming mats for my TT80
    so far i only tanked 1-1 and 1-2 and well my hp isnt that high and i cant afford charms but i do want to do higher runs so i can get money and the mats for my TT80

    i only have 8.5k hp buffed in tiger form and i can afford event food so would this be enough to tank 2-1 and 1-3

    You definitely can NOT tank Lord of percussion in 1-3, even with 2 clerics. You only have 8.5k in tiger and im pretty sure that 70 gear of yours does not give high mag def, the boss high magic attack will do 4-5k on you in blue bubble. You will get 2 shoot if you don't have charm on ;/

    Same goes for Soul banisher, don't bother if you have 8+k hp fully buffed in tiger and no charm. I mean if the clerics are lvl 90+ im sure you can do it. But with clerics same lvl as yourself, you guys will get wiped. But the other 3 bosses in 1-3 should be easy for you.

    2-1 should be easy to beside general wulord. I don't think you can tank him w/o charm on.
  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    well so far i always needed 2 clerics to tank 1-2 because of drum and soulbanisher but i done that w/o event food though seeing the advices i might try 2-1 with event food and wait til im 79 so i can get the mold plate and hopefully having 9k hp then before i try 1-3
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • Aquilonian - Dreamweaver
    Aquilonian - Dreamweaver Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    just out of curiosity. Everyones mentions hp wich is good, but what is your pdef?
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    hmm i got like 11.619k p.def cleric buffed in tiger and got 14.279k p.def both cleric and bm buffed in tiger
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • Aquilonian - Dreamweaver
    Aquilonian - Dreamweaver Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    hmm i got like 11.619k p.def cleric buffed in tiger and got 14.279k p.def both cleric and bm buffed in tiger

    you're on a PvE server. Unless you noobed it with oracles, you are probably good against the computer and have pinkpots, redpots, various powders, event food, genie, and skills like sunder and the turtle god one. I think you can make it. you might die the first time so dont be surprised.

    Youre gonna need two clerics just incase. One good cleric and the second can be whoever. Your cleric will make or break you I feel, its not so much up to the barb as people might have us believe. The cleric is the unsung hero of TT. At your level I think I had 7800hp but 11000~ pdef without anyones buff. The times we failed was from the cleric rezing/healing somebody else instead of healing me. (Once everyone died but me and cleric. sigh.... I dont do TT anymore.)

    So I agree with everyone here. Note that all the PvE server players say "yes" and Elena says "maybe". The only "no" is a PvP player, so dont be disheartened. I feel you should be able to.
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ok ty all for the advice i hope to do a 2-1 soon and depending on how good that goes i will consider 1-3
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • Mivi - Lost City
    Mivi - Lost City Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lol drum lord 1-3 can deals 6k - 6,6k on a barb lv 83 with 80hh set gold
    soulbanisher have much magick attack to drum lord
    and the damange increase with the time
    if u planning to kill they brind with u 2 good clerics
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Is that with or without BB? Normally for 1-2/1-3 on Drummer and Soulbanisher there are two clerics because one is needed to BB to keep the whole squad alive. Otherwise those bosses could one shot the whole squad with the except of the barb and BM (if there's on in the squad).
  • Cenminator - Dreamweaver
    Cenminator - Dreamweaver Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    the only way to know for sure is to try. although hp and def is an important part of tanking knowing how to play your class can keep you alive far longer then someone who doesn't know it as well. the best barb i ever had was KingHyde on sanctuary that guy would never die even though his gear and hp was much worse then most barbs of same level. in tw he was always last barb down even though there were barbs 10 levels higher. in tt he would charm tank when the clerics died and stay alive until clerics could res or boss was dead. skill is the biggest part of tanking everything else is just a bonus.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Another factor is the sheer amount of damage your squad can do. The faster you can kill Soulbanisher and Drum boss, the less damage the bosses do to you. This is because their AoE damage increases over time.

    Our faction recently did a TT1-3 run with a lvl 80 uncharmed barbarian with lvl 70 weapon and gear (maybe some higher mold for the chest, I forget). The barbarian was also able to keep aggro while I was sparking and trying to maximize damage (Go Leupold!).

    We killed the Drum boss so quickly we were stunned. He started AoE attacks at about 25% of his health. Our cleric did Regeneration Aura from the start (no charm, used event pots). The other cleric switched between healing and DD. Since we killed the Drum boss so quickly, he did not get a chance to deal a large amount of damage at once.

    We were able to kill the 007 boss so quickly he did not have a chance to summon 007.

    We also killed Soulbanisher, though the two low HP characters (cleric and wizard) died near the end.

    Squad composition (nobody had charms of either type):

    Barbarian - Lvl 80 - Uses TT70 weapons and has mostly 70 gear.
    Cleric - Lvl 84 - Glaives of Divinity.
    Cleric - Lvl 80 - Glaives of Divinity. ~2800 HP, died at Soul Banisher near the end.
    Wizard - Lvl 76? - TT70 weapon. ~2400 HP, died at Soul Banisher near the end.
    Venomancer - Lvl 80 - TT80 weapon. Has a Herc.
    Archer - Lvl 88 - Hybrid. TT80 Gold weapon. Did not have to hold back on damage at all.

    So if you are an awesome Barbarian that can keep aggro with DDs 8 levels above you (that have a higher weapon grade), then those high level DDs can help prevent your death.
  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Another factor is the sheer amount of damage your squad can do. The faster you can kill Soulbanisher and Drum boss, the less damage the bosses do to you. This is because their AoE damage increases over time.

    Our faction recently did a TT1-3 run with a lvl 80 uncharmed barbarian with lvl 70 weapon and gear (maybe some higher mold for the chest, I forget). The barbarian was also able to keep aggro while I was sparking and trying to maximize damage (Go Leupold!).

    We killed the Drum boss so quickly we were stunned. He started AoE attacks at about 25% of his health. Our cleric did Regeneration Aura from the start (no charm, used event pots). The other cleric switched between healing and DD. Since we killed the Drum boss so quickly, he did not get a chance to deal a large amount of damage at once.

    We were able to kill the 007 boss so quickly he did not have a chance to summon 007.

    We also killed Soulbanisher, though the two low HP characters (cleric and wizard) died near the end.

    Squad composition (nobody had charms of either type):

    Barbarian - Lvl 80 - Uses TT70 weapons and has mostly 70 gear.
    Cleric - Lvl 84 - Glaives of Divinity.
    Cleric - Lvl 80 - Glaives of Divinity. ~2800 HP, died at Soul Banisher near the end.
    Wizard - Lvl 76? - TT70 weapon. ~2400 HP, died at Soul Banisher near the end.
    Venomancer - Lvl 80 - TT80 weapon. Has a Herc.
    Archer - Lvl 88 - Hybrid. TT80 Gold weapon. Did not have to hold back on damage at all.

    So if you are an awesome Barbarian that can keep aggro with DDs 8 levels above you (that have a higher weapon grade), then those high level DDs can help prevent your death.

    umm barbs rarely die off aoes otherwise hes fail it are the direct non aoe mag atacks that kill me
    for the rest i tanked 2-1 a few times now each time with succes
    but i heard enough i wont do 1-3 til 79/80
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • Poisa - Lost City
    Poisa - Lost City Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i have a barb bud in your same boat but, he tanks w/o a charm cause he nails his interupts. drummer wurlord ect really aren't that bad with a good barb even if their gear is complete garbage. the number 1 barb kill /charm ticker is the boss casts or a cleric that has no brains in which case id say boot it. then get somone who is competant at healing
  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    im bringing this thread back cause i should have easily 9k hp at level 79 (am at 8.9 atm) i got my 79 molder plate fully ready that should bring my hp up 120 unbuffed add 1-2 vit points and the base increase anyway will i be able to tank 1-3 if i got 9k hp o btw i never have trouble with agro so DDs wont be a problem
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City
    __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Lol i could tank all bosses in 1-3 with no problem since lvl 76 and with no charm... My HP is over 11k in tiger tho with HH70 gear and 6x boots and wud even tank with calamity axes D:
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    let this thread be locked i done both now and got 9.6k hp anyways
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City
    __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    let this thread be locked i done both now and got 9.6k hp anyways

    gratz b:victory
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  • Coyote_Wise - Heavens Tear
    Coyote_Wise - Heavens Tear Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    You definitely can NOT tank Lord of percussion in 1-3, even with 2 clerics. You only have 8.5k in tiger and im pretty sure that 70 gear of yours does not give high mag def, the boss high magic attack will do 4-5k on you in blue bubble. You will get 2 shoot if you don't have charm on ;/

    Same goes for Soul banisher, don't bother if you have 8+k hp fully buffed in tiger and no charm. I mean if the clerics are lvl 90+ im sure you can do it. But with clerics same lvl as yourself, you guys will get wiped. But the other 3 bosses in 1-3 should be easy for you.

    2-1 should be easy to beside general wulord. I don't think you can tank him w/o charm on.


    The magic attack? I hope to god he's got Alacrity up to snuff if he's 77. Lead in with Alacrity to stop the first shot, Flesh Ream to to your hearts content, don't forget to Alacrity every 10 seconds (8 after 50% hp is gone, but then it's a phys AoE so it's on the squishies to stay alive then).