Balanced?

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

Just in case anyone was hoping for 9x to balance out the classes, it doesn't. It's just more of the same... nix's are still ridiculously OP and if you are able to kill the nix... any decent veno just drops and holy paths across the map, res's the nix, and you go at it again. If anything, I've got a better chance against archers n clerics... but barbs are still just about impossible to pass their charm, and BM's are now able to tank alot better... Maybe it gets different at 99?... or is it just more of the same again b:surrender

Mastrmustard - Sanctuary · October 2009

b:laugh Classes are actually really well balanced maybe you just are not playing yours right.

ANY class can kill ANY other class.

Some are harder than others but either way it is still not that hard.

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

Mastrmustard - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:laugh Classes are actually really well balanced maybe you just are not playing yours right.

ANY class can kill ANY other class.

Some are harder than others but either way it is still not that hard.

no, and I was looking for a half way intelligent response.. maybe you should reroll on a non carebear server and try to tell me the same thing

Mastrmustard - Sanctuary · October 2009

FYI I am on Harshlands currently that account is banned for the time cause I got a little upset when I saw anniversary packs wer back.

For your intellegent responce I'm still sticking with.

ANY class can kill ANY other class.

prof · October 2009

the key is -chant items. crit is nice, but not at the loss of the ability to kill. once you silly mages realize how valuable it is to us, you'll stop sucking so much.

MagicHamsta - Lost City · October 2009

prof wrote: »

the key is -chant items. crit is nice, but not at the loss of the ability to kill. once you silly mages realize how valuable it is to us, you'll stop sucking so much.

b:shocked
does me count as a "silly mage"?
b:sad
the key is to stab em in the back before they realize whats happening.
(>.<)
b:victory

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

prof wrote: »

the key is -chant items. crit is nice, but not at the loss of the ability to kill. once you silly mages realize how valuable it is to us, you'll stop sucking so much.

I don't know exactly what you think channeling would do to make a nix cake... because you are limited to WotP to damage it.. You absolutely can't have a nix in your face as a wiz.. on top of the obvious bleed bug and stun... the peck interrupts just about any skill. The veno can easily keep that pet healed from the WotP and you dont rly have enough time to get a skill off before that race bird is back in your face again. Now lets say you somehow used some super awesome strategy involving amazing genie skills and apoth items and chi and a bunch of luck and u killed the QQ bird... Any half smart veno would then lol at you and drop to the ground, holy path away, res the QQ bird and send it right back at you. Now that you're pk pots and genie skills are on cooldown... you can go give it another shot... yay! No where in there did I even mention that the veno could just stun you and let that QQ bird get right up in your face and do some damage... or that the veno could purge you or amp you or w/e else. I don't really see how a wizard is in any way balanced with the stupid QQ bird.

prof · October 2009

you're not even 7x, it doesn't matter for you because gears aren't worth mentioning until 85+.

http://pwcalc.ru/my/?char=8c7dad33697eb99f

-24% normally, at all times.

I have 2 -6% accessories; -36% total.

I have a -9% ring in my bank; -39% total.

I have a rank 4 top; -42% total.

at 99 I'll have hh99 wrist and boots along with these items; -45% total.

at 99 I'll have hh99 magic sword with -6%; -48% total.

I may, eventually, work for my gold fw cape; -51% total.

I'm going to get dark moistcuring soon; -71% total.

I already have dark fury; 76% total.

w/e

seal veno > mountain press > kill bird

if they're so terribly bad that they run away to res the pet, then you go the other way and do your job elsewhere - when they show up again, kill their pet and scare them away again.

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

prof wrote: »

you're not even 7x, it doesn't matter for you because gears aren't worth mentioning until 85+.

http://pwcalc.ru/my/?char=8c7dad33697eb99f

-24% normally, at all times.

I have 2 -6% accessories; -36% total.

I have a -9% ring in my bank; -39% total.

I have a rank 4 top; -42% total.

at 99 I'll have hh99 wrist and boots along with these items; -45% total.

at 99 I'll have hh99 magic sword with -6%; -48% total.

I may, eventually, work for my gold fw cape; -51% total.

I'm going to get dark moistcuring soon; -71% total.

I already have dark fury; 76% total.

w/e

seal veno > mountain press > kill bird

if they're so terribly bad that they run away to res the pet, then you go the other way and do your job elsewhere - when they show up again, kill their pet and scare them away again.

And how many times do we gotta tell you. If you are going to post in PWI forums, you use the PWI lingo. No more of this MY-EN pwcalc links

MagicHamsta - Lost City · October 2009

mayhaps sutra?
b:puzzled

3 sparks + 99 chi = sutra seal then seize?
(O.o)'

prof · October 2009

seal has a huge cast time. if I were going to waste all 399: seal > sutra > divine pyro > mountain > phoenix. and, well.. since I have more than -3 or -9% chant like the mages on this forum, I generally get the mountain off quite quickly.

if you can't read my links - the ones I make for my own personal use, using the names I recognize - translate them yourself.

http://www.pwdatabase.com/my/

I do it for this forum plenty, get over it.

Kristoph - Lost City · October 2009

Barbs are actually pretty easy to kill unless they're fully buffed, and if they are pop anti stun and triple spark... they'll die if they don't run fast. The main problem is perdition, if that crits or zerks they can basically kill any robe in 1 hit.

Nixes die in two shots, I only die to them if I get ganked or if everything is on cooldown. Worst case scenario you pop anti stun and sutra/triple spark it to death. If not just run around till you have what you need. The veno generally has no right to say you're running, because that's exactly what they'll do when it's dead. But yes, they're still irritating and not easy to deal with overall, if you **** up or lag you die.

Archers are okay, most are just annoying idiots who don't know what to do if you don't die in two shots so they drop till their stun is off cooldown again. I see them do it more and more, I'm lucky enough to get a gush off after using undine. Blademasters are only bad if they have full chi, which usually results in them using a combination of Drake Bash and the 59 skill, which hurts. Kind of the reason why I'm interested in badge of courage, breaking out of stun after they dragon me would be lovely. Dont think I'd get killed by one anymore if I had it unless they got a well timed zerk crit off. Clerics are just a pain in the ****, either they die to BT or it's charmrape for however many minutes till either says **** this. Other wizards? On this server they're all oneshots unless 99+, CQs wizards are garbage and Spectral only has light armor wizards.

Nakhimov - Lost City · October 2009

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Barbs are actually pretty easy to kill unless they're fully buffed, and if they are pop anti stun and triple spark... they'll die if they don't run fast. The main problem is perdition, if that crits or zerks they can basically kill any robe in 1 hit.

Nixes die in two shots, I only die to them if I get ganked or if everything is on cooldown. Worst case scenario you pop anti stun and sutra/triple spark it to death. If not just run around till you have what you need. The veno generally has no right to say you're running, because that's exactly what they'll do when it's dead. But yes, they're still irritating and not easy to deal with overall, if you **** up or lag you die.

Archers are okay, most are just annoying idiots who don't know what to do if you don't die in two shots so they drop till their stun is off cooldown again. I see them do it more and more, I'm lucky enough to get a gush off after using undine. Blademasters are only bad if they have full chi, which usually results in them using a combination of Drake Bash and the 59 skill, which hurts. Kind of the reason why I'm interested in badge of courage, breaking out of stun after they dragon me would be lovely. Dont think I'd get killed by one anymore if I had it unless they got a well timed zerk crit off. Clerics are just a pain in the ****, either they die to BT or it's charmrape for however many minutes till either says **** this. Other wizards? On this server they're all oneshots unless 99+, CQs wizards are garbage and Spectral only has light armor wizards.

Demon LA mages at that.

/Groovy/ - Harshlands · October 2009

Doesn't most venos restat to HA after 90? Just ignore the bloody bird, spam pots/apoth remedies/genie cauterize, Sutra and kill veno :P

If veno is arcane then FoW on her and focus on bird: either Sutra with WotP as opener or ulti on the bird. If you kill the bird and she starts to run away then just make a screenshot and post on forum for Venos b:chuckle

Nothing is impossible if one knows how to play their class and don't forget to refine their gear.

Kristoph - Lost City · October 2009

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

Doesn't most venos restat to HA after 90? Just ignore the bloody bird, spam pots/apoth remedies/genie cauterize, Sutra and kill veno :P

If veno is arcane then FoW on her and focus on bird: either Sutra with WotP as opener or ulti on the bird. If you kill the bird and she starts to run away then just make a screenshot and post on forum for Venos b:chuckle

Nothing is impossible if one knows how to play their class and don't forget to refine their gear.

LA/Heavy veno's have at least 6k hp if they're pvp built. If they decide to stun you out of sutra/whatever or they drop/run out of range, they're still alive and you just wasted sparks.

I usually just undine the bird, then take bleed/hope bird wastes stun, blink away and let hiero recover, then twoshot bird before bleed cooldown is finished.

Polyhymnia - Heavens Tear · October 2009

Adroit, getting to level 90 doesn't automatically make you good at the game. Judging by this and your other posts, that's something you still have to work on.

Stop mindlessly doing CS and WQ to level up and go learn to play.

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

Polyhymnia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Adroit, getting to level 90 doesn't automatically make you good at the game. Judging by this and your other posts, that's something you still have to work on.

Stop mindlessly doing CS and WQ to level up and go learn to play.

*sigh* says the n00b hiding behind a level 4 avatar. I know how to play the game, the only thing I need to work on is how much $$ I throw at it. My gear could use an upgrade

Paimage - Harshlands · October 2009

hmm From wat I hav seen so far, wizards are the most gear dependant class in the game, at lower lvls(3x-7x) u need alot -chan gear, at higher lvls(8x,9x, 10x) u need gear with good refinement (+5 at very least on armours nd +7 at least on weapon) nd channelling at higher lvls gets less important since you will do more dmg then most classes would in 2 hits with only 1 hit, although its still important though. Thats all wizards need to hav in order to b balanced with other classes, the rest depends on the player skills...

P.S All I have said is the way it goes with AA wizards, I have never played LA wizards till lvls 6x so I cant really tell much about em...(all I can say is that they are good for pvp till 9x, at 9x AA is better)
Archers

They will do alot of dmg to wizards till at least lvls 8x, 9x when the AA gets better nd with far better phy res, after that wizards get alot of phy def nd Archers can b easier (never easy if the archer is good) to pvp against. Only chances of winning those at lower lvls is if u hav good -chan gear or u hav 2 sparks ready to kill em using your sutra (usually sandstorm, stone rain, divine pyrogram then a quick gush nd pyrogram will kill em xD).

Barbarians

They are very hard to beat at lower lvls cuz the dmg they do to us can kill us easily since our HP is so low but once we hit 90, we will hav far more phy def nd even barbs with GX wont hit too hard (unless he does a perdition with a zerk or crit...or both) but I think they are the easiest class to fight against cuz they dont have so many stun skills(only mighty swing nd alacracity of beast) nd they have a very low magical def even though they are a tank class. But they dont get as hard to kill once you hit 90 nd hav the kind of gears I mentioned above.

Clerics

Dont have much exp fighting em but they are hard to kill if they use alot of self healing skills, the best way to beat em is by using an ult move ( I recomend blade tempest since it has both mag nd phy dmg) to one shot em or when their HP is close to tick.

Venomancers (with nix)

at lower lvls is really hard to fight em especially if the player is good, its really important to use well the genie anti bleed skills nd kill the veno as fast as possible nd do not aim for the nix since the veno would jus heal it while u bleed to death. At lvls 90+ it gets a bit easier since the bleed itself wont finish you off so fast cuz of your increased HP, what you have to do here is kill the nix first cuz u will hav firepower to do it fast nd then u focus on the veno

Blademasters

Very hard to fight against em cuz their stunlock alot but if u carry anti stun pots with u will b far easier to kill em but if u dont hav, u will need to use distance shrink alot nd slow skills alot too...(well u guys know how to beat emb:victory)

P.S Its very important to have that lvl79 sleep skill, that will help u alot. Even though u prob know all of what I said above, Im jus trying to show u that the higher the lvl, the more balanced it becomes for wizards, wizards at lvl99 get even more balanced

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »

hmm From wat I hav seen so far, wizards are the most gear dependant class in the game, at lower lvls(3x-7x) u need alot -chan gear, at higher lvls(8x,9x, 10x) u need gear with good refinement (+5 at very least on armours nd +7 at least on weapon) nd channelling at higher lvls gets less important since you will do more dmg then most classes would in 2 hits with only 1 hit, although its still important though. Thats all wizards need to hav in order to b balanced with other classes, the rest depends on the player skills...

P.S All I have said is the way it goes with AA wizards, I have never played LA wizards till lvls 6x so I cant really tell much about em...(all I can say is that they are good for pvp till 9x, at 9x AA is better)
Archers

They will do alot of dmg to wizards till at least lvls 8x, 9x when the AA gets better nd with far better phy res, after that wizards get alot of phy def nd Archers can b easier (never easy if the archer is good) to pvp against. Only chances of winning those at lower lvls is if u hav good -chan gear or u hav 2 sparks ready to kill em using your sutra (usually sandstorm, stone rain, divine pyrogram then a quick gush nd pyrogram will kill em xD).

Barbarians

They are very hard to beat at lower lvls cuz the dmg they do to us can kill us easily since our HP is so low but once we hit 90, we will hav far more phy def nd even barbs with GX wont hit too hard (unless he does a perdition with a zerk or crit...or both) but I think they are the easiest class to fight against cuz they dont have so many stun skills(only mighty swing nd alacracity of beast) nd they have a very low magical def even though they are a tank class. But they dont get as hard to kill once you hit 90 nd hav the kind of gears I mentioned above.

Clerics

Dont have much exp fighting em but they are hard to kill if they use alot of self healing skills, the best way to beat em is by using an ult move ( I recomend blade tempest since it has both mag nd phy dmg) to one shot em or when their HP is close to tick.

Venomancers (with nix)

at lower lvls is really hard to fight em especially if the player is good, its really important to use well the genie anti bleed skills nd kill the veno as fast as possible nd do not aim for the nix since the veno would jus heal it while u bleed to death. At lvls 90+ it gets a bit easier since the bleed itself wont finish you off so fast cuz of your increased HP, what you have to do here is kill the nix first cuz u will hav firepower to do it fast nd then u focus on the veno

Blademasters

Very hard to fight against em cuz their stunlock alot but if u carry anti stun pots with u will b far easier to kill em but if u dont hav, u will need to use distance shrink alot nd slow skills alot too...(well u guys know how to beat emb:victory)

P.S Its very important to have that lvl79 sleep skill, that will help u alot. Even though u prob know all of what I said above, Im jus trying to show u that the higher the lvl, the more balanced it becomes for wizards, wizards at lvl99 get even more balanced

I think you should level up before speculating on how things will be later.

Kristoph - Lost City · October 2009

Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »

Barbarians

They are very hard to beat at lower lvls cuz the dmg they do to us can kill us easily since our HP is so low but once we hit 90, we will hav far more phy def nd even barbs with GX wont hit too hard (unless he does a perdition with a zerk or crit...or both) but I think they are the easiest class to fight against cuz they dont have so many stun skills(only mighty swing nd alacracity of beast) nd they have a very low magical def even though they are a tank class. But they dont get as hard to kill once you hit 90 nd hav the kind of gears I mentioned above.

Clerics

Dont have much exp fighting em but they are hard to kill if they use alot of self healing skills, the best way to beat em is by using an ult move ( I recomend blade tempest since it has both mag nd phy dmg) to one shot em or when their HP is close to tick.

Venomancers (with nix)

at lower lvls is really hard to fight em especially if the player is good, its really important to use well the genie anti bleed skills nd kill the veno as fast as possible nd do not aim for the nix since the veno would jus heal it while u bleed to death. At lvls 90+ it gets a bit easier since the bleed itself wont finish you off so fast cuz of your increased HP, what you have to do here is kill the nix first cuz u will hav firepower to do it fast nd then u focus on the veno

Blademasters

Very hard to fight against em cuz their stunlock alot but if u carry anti stun pots with u will b far easier to kill em but if u dont hav, u will need to use distance shrink alot nd slow skills alot too...(well u guys know how to beat emb:victory)

There's so many things wrong in this I wouldn't even know where to begin.

And if you need to get someone HP down to almost 50%, it's not a oneshot you idiot.

PrettySammy - Sanctuary · October 2009

Going back to the quest that Adroit of Lost City originally asked. When i come to that damn flying monster, I have found from experience that stay still and fight = dead.

Thanksfully good tactics, if environment permits, can help. Say in TW I have a nix on may **** I use distance shrink away to get out of the veno's range but not the nix. Veno's usually will pursue me, during this time I use spark / elemental weakness / undine strike to turn birdies mag def down and hit it with the relevant quickly cast attacks for that debuff (Any for ES or US, fire for spark). Personally I like to use Force of Will, Essential Sutra, Undine Strike, Gush --> Stone Rain --> Pyrogram --> Will of Pheonix.

9 times out of 10 its a dead birdy, at which point I hunt the veno down. Its true if their pet dies they tend to leg it, so its better to debuff the bird with undine so u can use HP to pursue the damn veno. Also by this time the cooldown on Foce ofWill is done and Sleep is also available.

Rinse technique and repeat.

PK is another issue though, as you will be more aware of the chaos of TW, which I often take advantage of, isn't always present. Im not going to lecture you on PK technique since I am on a PvE server and your on PvP. However, IN THEORY, you could fire off the genie skill, to prevent bleeds for x time, before the nix arrives, fire off some HP food, and get out of the veno's range and try swat the nix as above.

If this isn't possible and you have both sleep (yeah I know its a 79 skill and some do not have it) and force of will ready, sleep the veno and FoW the nix, so you can focus either on wasting the veno fast, to kill the nix or waste the nix first.

Again your choice. The bird is a pain in the **** but I just see it as another challenge.

PS People will notice that unlike some individuals I use the correct PWI terminology. This be called "good manners".

Paimage - Harshlands · October 2009

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

I think you should level up before speculating on how things will be later.

Well, all I hav said is far from being totally accurate, but most of it is based on my exp fighting high lvl wizards with my barb (its lvl91 btw) nd also based in tactics I hav seen other ppl use but like I said, its far from being totally accurate... But my point is that the higher the lvl, the better for wizards, so far the most balanced wizards I hav seen either had very good gear or were lvl100 but Im still a noob playing wizards so I guess u r right when u say I should lvl up

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

There's so many things wrong in this I wouldn't even know where to begin.

And if you need to get someone HP down to almost 50%, it's not a oneshot you idiot.

dont call me an idiot u ignorant fk, I guess you know what I mean when I say take down the HP of the opponent before using an ulti move in order to avoid a charm tick nd kill the opponent straight away...

Damaged - Lost City · October 2009

Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »

Well, all I hav said is far from being totally accurate, but most of it is based on my exp fighting high lvl wizards with my barb (its lvl91 btw) nd also based in tactics I hav seen other ppl use but like I said, its far from being totally accurate... But my point is that the higher the lvl, the better for wizards, so far the most balanced wizards I hav seen either had very good gear or were lvl100 but Im still a noob playing wizards so I guess u r right when u say I should lvl up

dont call me an idiot u ignorant fk, I guess you know what I mean when I say take down the HP of the opponent before using an ulti move in order to avoid a charm tick nd kill the opponent straight away...

Lol harshlands

Kristoph - Lost City · October 2009

Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »

Well, all I hav said is far from being totally accurate, but most of it is based on my exp fighting high lvl wizards with my barb (its lvl91 btw) nd also based in tactics I hav seen other ppl use but like I said, its far from being totally accurate... But my point is that the higher the lvl, the better for wizards, so far the most balanced wizards I hav seen either had very good gear or were lvl100 but Im still a noob playing wizards so I guess u r right when u say I should lvl up

dont call me an idiot u ignorant fk, I guess you know what I mean when I say take down the HP of the opponent before using an ulti move in order to avoid a charm tick nd kill the opponent straight away...

Lol at you calling me ignorant. Hypocrite.

JaneGray - Lost City · October 2009

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

Just in case anyone was hoping for 9x to balance out the classes, it doesn't. It's just more of the same... nix's are still ridiculously OP and if you are able to kill the nix... any decent veno just drops and holy paths across the map, res's the nix, and you go at it again. If anything, I've got a better chance against archers n clerics... but barbs are still just about impossible to pass their charm, and BM's are now able to tank alot better... Maybe it gets different at 99?... or is it just more of the same again b:surrender

are you an la or arcane? how do you fare against other wizzies?

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

im arcane and sage.. I dont have alot of other wizards to rly test on, but the few I did fight I did very well. I have most of my skills leveled.. but still waiting on spirit for MS and glacial snare. My gear is +4 with flawless garnets (+6 HH 90 glaive) although im missing my boots/wrists/belt still. Just using some **** 8x ones right now. My stats are pretty bad right now 3.7k hp and 3.8kpdef self buffed, but even with full gear ill only have about 4.2k hp and 5k pdef. The problem is that even with that extra survivability, im still gonna die to those QQ birds before i can kill them. I tried to kill one the other day and it wasnt even close to a 2 shot.. what skills do u use to 2 shot it kritph?

Trawne - Lost City · October 2009

read first page...skimmed 2nd....

anyway:

to the QQ about venos: if you can 2 shot the bird do it. then shrink to the veno, sleep > BT (or dragon depending on the veno) +poison - dead bird, dead veno. if dragon alone wont kill veno use mountain seize (-channeling will help here as forp said) then finish them quick with gush, pyro, nix, sr (anything fast)

if you cant 2 shot the bird: blood clot, nature powder, sutra combo veno - dead veno

....i could write out how to fight every class but in reality it comes down to knowing your opponent, having the right pk pots (dew of god protection, vacuity power/nature powder), and knowing when to use what skills. charmed barbs are the hardest thing to kill if they have really high vit but it is possible.

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

@twane
this brings me back to my original point, it takes a wizard good gear, leveled skills, pk pots, and genie skills, full chi, and a charm to take down a QQ bird. Now assuming the veno is decent, they will run when their bird is dead. You'd only be able to kill a real fail one, most would see they were in trouble and use a genie skill or pk pot.. Now when they holy path away and res bird.. (maybe take em 20-30 secs to come back) what are u supposed to do with pk pots/sleep on cooldown, and used all your sparks? Run, die, hope for a crit? Exactly.. its unbalanced.

Paimage - Harshlands · October 2009

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

@twane
this brings me back to my original point, it takes a wizard good gear, leveled skills, pk pots, and genie skills, full chi, and a charm to take down a QQ bird. Now assuming the veno is decent, they will run when their bird is dead. You'd only be able to kill a real fail one, most would see they were in trouble and use a genie skill or pk pot.. Now when they holy path away and res bird.. (maybe take em 20-30 secs to come back) what are u supposed to do with pk pots/sleep on cooldown, and used all your sparks? Run, die, hope for a crit? Exactly.. its unbalanced.

& I will repeat it, for wizards the higher the lvl the more balanced it becomes & so far the only wizards I have seen that appeared to be balanced with the rest of the classes either had a very good gear or were at least lvl99 with 99 gear...
But still, wizards werent really designed for 1v1 pvp but more like group pvp & about the nixes, thats why there are 2 anti-bleed genie skillsb:victory

P.S. A wizard with high survavibility is OP, which means that from the moment wizards start getting harder to kill while they still maintain their very high dmg, they become OP nd thats wat we call venos right lol & thats why I say wizards arent unbalanced, they hav low survability nd in exchange of that they have dmg enough to kill other classes easier then any other class...

Adroit - Lost City · October 2009

Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »

& I will repeat it, for wizards the higher the lvl the more balanced it becomes & so far the only wizards I have seen that appeared to be balanced with the rest of the classes either had a very good gear or were at least lvl99 with 99 gear...
But still, wizards werent really designed for 1v1 pvp but more like group pvp & about the nixes, thats why there are 2 anti-bleed genie skillsb:victory

P.S. A wizard with high survavibility is OP, which means that from the moment wizards start getting harder to kill while they still maintain their very high dmg, they become OP nd thats wat we call venos right lol & thats why I say wizards arent unbalanced, they hav low survability nd in exchange of that they have dmg enough to kill other classes easier then any other class...

just try to tell me that when you level up..

Kristoph - Lost City · October 2009

Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »

& about the nixes, thats why there are 2 anti-bleed genie skillsb:victory

Anti bleed genie skills are a waste of a slot. Next.

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