Who makes this game fail?

MisterDamage - Lost City
MisterDamage - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Chronicles
OK where do u guys think this game fails? In the game managers or the dev? The people or the game content itself?
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    i thought they were called game masters
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    The GMs decide to add the content, so...
  • somerandomacc
    somerandomacc Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dev - NOT - i have no idea what it is =\

    Players - NOT - the players are awsome.

    Game Content - NOT - it does pretty much rule, especially when the rising tide thingy will come up.

    GMs - FKERS~%$&*!%*@ - they are the ones who made the game fail as hell, though what i mentioned above almost totally denies it
  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    This is a pretty stupid poll.

    The Devs made the game and its contents.
    GM's just follow the Devs.
    Players are the economy.
    Game contents are good.

    People that complain and QQ about every little aspect of this game makes this game unbearable. Just me, though.
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Accelerated - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This is a pretty stupid poll.

    The Devs made the game and its contents.
    GM's just follow the Devs.
    Players are the economy.
    Game contents are good.

    People that complain and QQ about every little aspect of this game makes this game unbearable. Just me, though.

    From what I understand, the devs make and fix content. But GMs decide to buy that content and add/remove it. They also decide the sales.
  • Paigrande - Harshlands
    Paigrande - Harshlands Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    im between players nd GMs... Players in pvp servers are not hardcore pvpers enough or not competitive enough to make it fun, GMs add content without realizing they are destroying the game... well i'll choose the GMsb:angry
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    None of the above.

    The admins are ruining the game.
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  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I voted for game content...and I meant the content in the CS. Wether that is decided by GMs or Devs, I don't know.

    Giving away endgame equips and such for loads of $$$ is total BS. If something is meant to be rare, then let it be rare for crying out loud.
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  • Paigrande - Harshlands
    Paigrande - Harshlands Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    None of the above.

    The admins are ruining the game.

    admins r GMs lol
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  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    The people who decide what goes in a sale. And the stupid people who created this anniversary.
    As far as I remember, PWI didnt go into open betaover the course of 2 months.
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    Yaxana - Sanctuary Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    How about... all of them? Where is that option?
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Paigrande - Harshlands wrote: »
    admins r GMs lol

    No. A GM's job is merely to enforce the game's rules on the servers and/or forums. They don't have any decision power. The best they can do is relay players' concern to the higher heads of the game : the administrators. They are those making decisions.
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  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I didnt vote.

    I believe its both the players, and the developers fault for the game 'failing' at this moment in time. Whether the dev's or the players like to admit it or not, we BOTH have a pretty large hold on whether or not a game is still around in the future, if the devs dont add content to the game, the players eventually get annoyed, and when the devs add something they can potentially ruin the game's fun for the players who have been around for a while, along with some of the new people, even for the ones just now understanding what to do with gold for the boutique.

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  • J_Balt - Heavens Tear
    J_Balt - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No. A GM's job is merely to enforce the game's rules on the servers and/or forums. They don't have any decision power. The best they can do is relay players' concern to the higher heads of the game : the administrators. They are those making decisions.

    And they obviously didnt do their job very well. Sadly, but true.
  • TheHunter_ - Sanctuary
    TheHunter_ - Sanctuary Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    inbe4lockb:victory

    gm's sucksb:chuckle
  • Kanye_West - Lost City
    Kanye_West - Lost City Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Aren't the players the ones who set the gold prices? So in effect, they too are partly responsible for some of the frustration.
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    We all have a bit of fail, deep, deep down inside. We just have to look hard enough. b:cute
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  • J_Balt - Heavens Tear
    J_Balt - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Kanye_West - Lost City wrote: »
    Aren't the players the ones who set the gold prices? So in effect, they too are partly responsible for some of the frustration.

    No offense, but would you sell possible end-game gear for 150k?
    I didn't think so either.

    Ofc it's the ppl selling gold that settles the price, but with end-game gear in pack's, prices is gonna stay sky-high, I dont blame em for selling for that much, cuz of what you can get.

    Problem is, you can get end-game gear from buying it. Biggest mistake was implementing the end-game gear in those pack's.

    Someone alrdy came up with the idea of selling tokens in cs, imo that would be a much better idea than these pack's.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    J_Balt - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No offense, but would you sell possible end-game gear for 150k?
    I didn't think so either.

    Ofc it's the ppl selling gold that settles the price, but with end-game gear in pack's, prices is gonna stay sky-high, I dont blame em for selling for that much, cuz of what you can get.

    Problem is, you can get end-game gear from buying it. Biggest mistake was implementing the end-game gear in those pack's.

    Someone alrdy came up with the idea of selling tokens in cs, imo that would be a much better idea than these pack's.

    But who bought the packs? I am sure it was not the GMs that spend a fortune buying the packs last sale making it THE MOST POPULAR sale in the history of PW. Also the gear was "being sold" at 500k+ if you got lucky and got one. Most people that bought packs got nothing out of them except tokens.

    Besides, the gear is not a game breaker, if people did not know how to play their characters, they will still suck at it now, even if they got better gear. If the people that got the gear were really good, well, in that case they will be able to kill you now, but again, they were able to kill you before.
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  • J_Balt - Heavens Tear
    J_Balt - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But who bought the packs? I am sure it was not the GMs that spend a fortune buying the packs last sale making it THE MOST POPULAR sale in the history of PW. Also the gear was "being sold" at 500k+ if you got lucky and got one. Most people that bought packs got nothing out of them except tokens.

    Besides, the gear is not a game breaker, if people did not know how to play their characters, they will still suck at it now, even if they got better gear. If the people that got the gear were really good, well, in that case they will be able to kill you now, but again, they were able to kill you before.

    Erh wth?

    The problem is, with end-game gear in those pack's, prices will stay high. Dont tell me you can find a player willing to sell gold for 150k to a stranger atm. If you could buy tokens in cs for a decent amount, instead of pack's, we wont have this inflation.

    It was a good sale for em I'm sure, but ppl is getting tired of it. Ppl spammed and is still spamming forum, it's time for something new.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    J_Balt - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Erh wth?

    The problem is, with end-game gear in those pack's, prices will stay high. Dont tell me you can find a player willing to sell gold for 150k to a stranger atm. If you could buy tokens in cs for a decent amount, instead of pack's, we wont have this inflation.

    It was a good sale for em I'm sure, but ppl is getting tired of it. Ppl spammed and is still spamming forum, it's time for something new.

    You see, the problem is not that people spam the forum, we all can see how the vocal minority posts here. The thing is, they know how many people are buying packs and gold, and I am sure (judging from the amount of announcements right after packs went on sale), they will repeat their last month performance with another record 2 weeks.

    This is the liver icecream example. If you are a grocery store, and you sell liver icecream, as long as you sell it out everytime, you will keep stocking it, even if some people find it revolting.

    On the gear, even though it really does not make a difference, I would had prefered if it was not part of the packs. Also, the gold prices reflect what you can sell items made with tokens for, not the price of the rare gear. The vast majority of people are getting tokens only, not nice stuff.
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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I don't see Corporate HQ or the like listed. Devs create the content, GMs are Public Relations. It's the corporate nutjobs making terrible decisions that's running PWI into the ground (credits to Nakhimov for link). Watch the line drop in 15-minute-delayed-realtime!

    I shouldn't be pleased about that, since the game we're playing depends on it. But bad decisions should have consequences, and I think that right there (stock value) is perhaps the only indicator PWI execs have that they've screwed the pooch here.
  • natedog97
    natedog97 Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    somerandomacc wrote: »
    Dev - NOT - i have no idea what it is =\

    Players - NOT - the players are awsome.

    Game Content - NOT - it does pretty much rule, especially when the rising tide thingy will come up.

    GMs - FKERS~%$&*!%*@ - they are the ones who made the game fail as hell, though what i mentioned above almost totally denies it

    This post makes you fail.

    Gms have little to NO control over what is added to the game it is their job to handle PR and hacking issues.

    Devs are the developers of the game who make all the decisions So it is them..

    All you people that voted for the GMs need to back off they make this game pretty good despite the noobishness of their devs and bosses.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Kephras - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't see Corporate HQ or the like listed. Devs create the content, GMs are Public Relations. It's the corporate nutjobs making terrible decisions that's running PWI into the ground (credits to Nakhimov for link). Watch the line drop in 15-minute-delayed-realtime!

    I shouldn't be pleased about that, since the game we're playing depends on it. But bad decisions should have consequences, and I think that right there (stock value) is perhaps the only indicator PWI execs have that they've screwed the pooch here.

    PW stock went public at $8. It has hit a high of $50, and it usualy stays around the low $40s. That is a return on investment in the 45%s.
    I am sure management is VERY happy. The average returns for a startup are negative returns for 4-5 years than they are usualy happy in the 5%s. PW went into profit mode pretty much the second it went public and it posts insane returns. (CocaCola posts returns in the 3%-4% range)

    Keep in mind that most of their growth happened while the world market went crashing, so it is even more amaizing since companies that cater to disposable income are the ones hurt first.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
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