Archers VS Mages

_NPH_ - Lost City · October 2009

Ok, yea I have all the info I need, Ty alot to the people who posted helpful responses, and to the others, don't post unless its something that deals with the topic and not an argument between you and another person.

_NPH_ - Lost City · October 2009

Oops b:laugh Yea wrong avatar, but I started the thread so it is now CLOSED.

Damaged - Lost City · October 2009

MrConce - Harshlands wrote: »

Should I remind you most of your "good" people from LC that made the good "TW" over there switched to this server once it came out? Besides, Judging u from LC and still 92, i can tell u obviously a nub. Idc how busy ur life is? Im 91 and server has been out for 5 months top, why u still 92 lowbie? Go level.

You: Join Date: 04-28-2009

Me: Join Date: 04-04-2009

Good game, and rage much please one shot b:kiss

LOL HARSHLANDS

bawksy · October 2009

ITT: MrConce raging

drmarley · October 2009

Damaged - Lost City wrote: »

You: Join Date: 04-28-2009

Me: Join Date: 04-04-2009

Good game, and rage much please one shot b:kiss

LOL HARSHLANDS

Join date only tells when you registered for the forums mate.

Ajani - Harshlands · October 2009

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Wow you'd be an easy kill

He is.. if u can fuel like himb:chuckle

MrConce - Harshlands wrote: »

You can do whatever you want. I have a "definite" answer. Cash Shop > Everything. End of discussion.

So u cash shop and u still are.. a huge faiiillll. Seriouslly u are acting "OMG I IS PRO EA" when someone that sees u play know that u run from everyone, u hit **** dmg and u haVe good gear that drops to others like coins in mobs..

Do urself a favor and reroll in Tetrisb:bye

Oneshotu - Lost City · October 2009

i think ur a vit build...i kill 7x mages and im 59...

Legerity - Sanctuary · October 2009

Oneshotu - Lost City wrote: »

i think ur a vit build...i kill 7x mages and im 59...

...Then try again when the Wizard actually has decent gear options at 90+ and feel the power of the archer decline unless you cash shop heavily.

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

_howler_ - Lost City wrote: »

dude joined THE SAME MONTH AS YOU , not everyone can grind there lives away >_>. since when is 92 a lowbie ?

Goes to show ur just another nub at this game. Anybody who knows about the game who has played it NOT EVERY DAY FOR 12+ Hours, but that has played it for a few months or years, knows that u can GV through ur levels and u can frostcovered. DO I really need to mention more ways to grind productively? Im sorry I know where to spend my few hours a day I play wisely.

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

CeliaZ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Dont we have those too?

Sure you can use em too, but lets be realistic here. How many people out there regardless of class actually use pots? And if they do damn, they must suck, i barely notice. As a matter of fact we have barbarians going around thinking they are invincible, so they dont see the need for pots. Wouldnt the same go against with most cash shoppers? And if ur not a cash shopper, then chances are ur a one shot. The only pot I see cash shoppers use is the 2 spark pot, so that they can be more offensive and end the game faster.

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

Damaged - Lost City wrote: »

You: Join Date: 04-28-2009

Me: Join Date: 04-04-2009

Good game, and rage much please one shot b:kiss

LOL HARSHLANDS

As sumone mentioned before, that only shows forum joined date smart one. If you want me to log into every other toon I have, and make u eat a cookie, I will. At least Im smart enough to know a level 97 mage with 4.7k phys def is still a one shot.

Ursa - Dreamweaver · October 2009

Oneshotu - Lost City wrote: »

i think ur a vit build...i kill 7x mages and im 59...

u still have much to learn little padawan...much to learn.
Come back to us later, when u fight a 5k HP 5.5k pdef self buffed wizard in the low 90s, cause at endgame you will run crying every time you'll see one.

MrConce - Harshlands wrote: »

Dude, you're saying that at endgame CS archers > wizards.
I can only lol.
Compare a CS archer with a CS wizards same amount of coins spent.

And having pots for magic dmg....looooool....dude i rofl... A TT90+10 Xbow does 70-150 dmg on me. How? pot. And if I'm really pissed off I can walk around for about 6 sec being invincible or stay put for about 12 under the same condition. U really think u invented apothecary in PWI?

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

Ajani - Harshlands wrote: »

He is.. if u can fuel like himb:chuckle

So u cash shop and u still are.. a huge faiiillll. Seriouslly u are acting "OMG I IS PRO EA" when someone that sees u play know that u run from everyone, u hit **** dmg and u haVe good gear that drops to others like coins in mobs..

Do urself a favor and reroll in Tetrisb:bye

Ive never cashshopped for my archer in terms of gear. As a matter of fact, ive never had amazing gear till now. A few days ago actually. Youve always been the sensation and always trying to humiliate me in WC just cause uve had level and gear on me. And to top it off, u never became a bad boy till Kylin decided to man up (Again) and call kos on the carebear Kingdom (meaning you woudlnt know how fail I am considering we've never been able to fight due to guilds not kosing till now, so stop concluding about whos fail without having solid facts). With all that said, How do you explain this?

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3726/20091012110229.png

That was yesterday in OHT PK Fight.

GG Ajani. Now do me a favor and stop trolling me because u too sad to beat me with ur +5 (I think is higher and my bow is only +2) hh90 dragonbow (lol!)

_howler_ - Lost City · October 2009

MrConce - Harshlands wrote: »

Ive never cashshopped for my archer in terms of gear. As a matter of fact, ive never had amazing gear till now. A few days ago actually. Youve always been the sensation and always trying to humiliate me in WC just cause uve had level and gear on me. And to top it off, u never became a bad boy till Kylin decided to man up (Again) and call kos on the carebear Kingdom (meaning you woudlnt know how fail I am considering we've never been able to fight due to guilds not kosing till now, so stop concluding about whos fail without having solid facts). With all that said, How do you explain this?

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3726/20091012110229.png

That was yesterday in OHT PK Fight.

GG Ajani. Now do me a favor and stop trolling me because u too sad to beat me with ur +5 (I think is higher and my bow is only +2) hh90 dragonbow (lol!)

by your logic wouldn't that make u a ONE SHOT >_>

and dude u seriously need to stop raging in the forums. are all High lvs this eletist?

why would I waste time leaning alot of extra stuff on a lil f2p mmo?

Kephras - Heavens Tear · October 2009

Edit: Nevermind. I see the wiggle room. Still wish there was a forum verison of blacklist.

Sarakara - Dreamweaver · October 2009

u should try a wizzy wearing heavy armor and switch back to mage armor if a cleric or outher wizzy comes i hate em! there not cool :P

Sarakara - Dreamweaver · October 2009

hmmm im thinkning of joining calamity when i hit 80 Tyranny is the leader right lol if u know BimBom tell him to PM me ^^

Ajani - Harshlands · October 2009

MrConce - Harshlands wrote: »

Ive never cashshopped for my archer in terms of gear. As a matter of fact, ive never had amazing gear till now. A few days ago actually. Youve always been the sensation and always trying to humiliate me in WC just cause uve had level and gear on me. And to top it off, u never became a bad boy till Kylin decided to man up (Again) and call kos on the carebear Kingdom (meaning you woudlnt know how fail I am considering we've never been able to fight due to guilds not kosing till now, so stop concluding about whos fail without having solid facts). With all that said, How do you explain this?

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3726/20091012110229.png

That was yesterday in OHT PK Fight.

GG Ajani. Now do me a favor and stop trolling me because u too sad to beat me with ur +5 (I think is higher and my bow is only +2) hh90 dragonbow (lol!)

Hi guy

Its called Blessing of condor -.- I was miss miss miss miss miss missb:chuckle
Btw i like ur no cs mount barb:victory

EDIT: I just read ur rant.. Unlike u and all 90+ in Kylin i didnt hide in a cave till 90 to start pvping. Iam doing that since 30 yo. Btw me > you

I aint scare of ur ganks *****. I shoot then in tha face.

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

u still have much to learn little padawan...much to learn.
Come back to us later, when u fight a 5k HP 5.5k pdef self buffed wizard in the low 90s, cause at endgame you will run crying every time you'll see one.

Dude, you're saying that at endgame CS archers > wizards.
I can only lol.
Compare a CS archer with a CS wizards same amount of coins spent.

And having pots for magic dmg....looooool....dude i rofl... A TT90+10 Xbow does 70-150 dmg on me. How? pot. And if I'm really pissed off I can walk around for about 6 sec being invincible or stay put for about 12 under the same condition. U really think u invented apothecary in PWI?

Im done arguing with you. Not worth my time, Ajani is more entertaining to fight with. Besides, if you so good at pvp and know how to do it so well, why you roll Dreamweaver instead of Harshlands when server came out? lol. Carebear. Too bad we aint same server. I would love to see a +10 bow do 70-150 damage on u.

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

_howler_ - Lost City wrote: »

by your logic wouldn't that make u a ONE SHOT >_>

and dude u seriously need to stop raging in the forums. are all High lvs this eletist?

why would I waste time leaning alot of extra stuff on a lil f2p mmo?

Why is it every time sumone makes an argument with another person raging? Why cant the world have less ignorant people like you? Just let us be inmmature and fight and argue out differences out. Besides, Im cooler than cool bro (meaning in quite calm, not cool as in im pro, cause im not, there is better people than me out there =]). No one is raging here besides u qqing at an argument that doesnt even concern u. And FYI, Just caused I said a non cash shopper is a one shot and said Im not BIG on csing for gear, doesnt mean I dont have decent gear enough to not make me a one shot. Im just not big on csing for gear meaning having more than +5 on it and all immaculate shards 4 socket, to me is just not worth it yet.

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

Ajani - Harshlands wrote: »

Hi guy
Its called Blessing of condor -.- I was miss miss miss miss miss missb:chuckle
Btw i like ur no cs mount barb:victory

EDIT: I just read ur rant.. Unlike u and all 90+ in Kylin i didnt hide in a cave till 90 to start pvping. Iam doing that since 30 yo. Btw me > you I aint scare of ur ganks *****. I shoot then in tha face.

Its called a 79 Skill (Blessing of Condor). Too bad ur prolly one of those fail archers that say that the 79 skill aint worth getting. My only pvp fight with you, and I won it cause of that very same skill. Nub.

And I said clearly, Im not big on csing for gear. I cs on fashion and mounts, personal preference, none of your business. But I can turn that around and make it cs on gear. Event IS back after all. Besides, all you non cash shoppers, stop complaining and qqin about people who DO cs. Only goes to show they earn more than you and are able to spare a few bucks. Theyve worked just as hard for that money as yall have been working here trying to win arguments against me. And ty for the compliment Ajani. They are nice mounts indeed. Too bad im selling the lion and the boa for event purposes.

FYI Ajani, go do ur hw and browse the pvp rank list. You've been pvping since 30 and ive been rpking kingdom and other guilds since 30 as well. There is a diff between pking koses and pking every1 at free will. I dropped red name at 80 cause i wanted to ease up on my awareness of having to grind while having people go through map and lookng at them to see if they were a threath or not. Just simply wanted a break and now that im pking against u at 90 and thats ur lame excuse? Please. And dont say I only pk level 30's cause im in leaderboard and ur not. I used to be #4. And i surely didnt pk only level 30's. Pked everyone who i saw during world quest, being level 30 or 90. (Too bad there wasnt 90's back then, ive always been in the highest level batch just like u).

LOL AND PS... So u can have more excuses and other people see how much u lie, stop blaming the loss on the 79 skill. I just looked at screenie and saw that my evasion is still on. Blessing of Condor only last 6 seconds and when the skill ends, ur evasion dissapears and I still have evasion and speed buff. As a matter of fact, Blessing of Condor has a 3 minute cooldown and u can easily tell is more than halfway past its cooldown. I never used it nub. Go find a new excuse. And no I didnt rebuff. I always take my screenies at the moment of death. No time to rebuff. Besides, you raged and respawned quickly after manning up and talking big in front of ur guildies and ended up dying.

bawksy · October 2009

ITT: MD syndrome spreading far and wide.

MrConce - Harshlands · October 2009

bawksy wrote: »

ITT: MD syndrome spreading far and wide.

Nice troll. MD is quite repeatitive. Ill give you that. b:victoryb:bye

Ursa - Dreamweaver · October 2009

MrConce - Harshlands wrote: »

Im done arguing with you. Not worth my time, Ajani is more entertaining to fight with. Besides, if you so good at pvp and know how to do it so well, why you roll Dreamweaver instead of Harshlands when server came out? lol. Carebear. Too bad we aint same server. I would love to see a +10 bow do 70-150 damage on u.

. You're one of those ppl that read something but doesn't really process any information. Whatever any1 else is saying doesn't really matters to you, right? b:victory
As for my reason of rolling on a Carebear: Having fun without growing eyes on the back of my head to pay attention to every possible frustrated idiot that wants to kill me just because his "gear" is not /functioning anymore/properly/hasn't been used in a while.
I want to be able to help ppl and enjoy the little time I spend in the game and choose to fight when I want to not when others want to.

Devoted - Lost City · October 2009

Can you archers gtfo my mage forums. b:cute

prof · October 2009

Ryla - Lost City wrote: »

I disagree. Sure mage at end game with +12'd gear is hard to kill and hits hard but archers can still kill them provided the mage doesnt crit.

Ive killed you once or twice prof. b:cuteb:chuckle

never met you in my life b:bye

Asmathi - Sanctuary · October 2009

Damaged - Lost City wrote: »

Earth barrier, garnet shards, refined pdef orns, easily

Oh, and gl withstanding ults when slept b:cute

Slept? That is why I like Adrenaline Surge (Genie Skill). At level 10, makes you immune to sleep for 7 secs. Idk about you, but 7 secs can = Alot of Dmg output for me.

Legerity - Sanctuary · October 2009

Asmathi - Sanctuary wrote: »

Slept? That is why I like Adrenaline Surge (Genie Skill). At level 10, makes you immune to sleep for 7 secs. Idk about you, but 7 secs can = Alot of Dmg output for me.

Well, same could be said for Wizards. What do we have to stop them from shooting off an ulti? Stun, run or sparks.

Wizards can also use genie skills for anti stun.

Run? Well they can DS and also HP to you.

Spark/Grace? Their turn to run. Or alternatively wait until the immunity rubs off and then 1 shot you. (lol 99 ulti skills lol)

Don't forget they can also silence you.

Don't even get me started on apoth pots. Your 7 seconds don't matter if they are able to kill you with a spell or so. You'll feel the pressure from Wizards soon so enjoy your dominance at 7x and 8x.

Tactica - Lost City · October 2009

I'd say it depends entirely on the people involved.

Not just in terms of gear (relative), but PvP'ing ability - or a lack thereof.

I've taken down 9x wizards, strictly speaking, your putting two offensive, rather squishy classes up against each other. If the wizard lands a crit, chances are - your in trouble. If it's an arcane crit, your not in trouble, your dead.

I've been hit for 6.7k by an EP'd BiDS, but in the same breath, downed an arcane wizard 4 times in a row, with less than 5-6 attacks each. Including FoW., etc.

The 6.7 was LA, for the records, which, for all it's con's, does increase survivability - at the cost of reducing damage. Most wizards do have their own little combinations, and if you can interrupt them - great, now see if they can react fast enough. If you land a stun after a sutra, they're going to hate you - and vice versa.

As an archer, your main problem would be the fact - most don't have enough hp to withstand a sleep + sutra, or a high damage skill after a poke.

I say it could go either way. Personally. Depends on path, etc. A good wizard can DS and HP away from a lot of your skills, including Aim Low (Which, might I add, is highly irritating when they blink while frozen).

*Shrugs*

Could go either way, an LA wizard will have basically the same p.def as a similar level BM, with hp shards and a bit more crit. An arcane wizard will have around the same p.def as you (speaking from an archer's perspective), but will hit considerably harder. Sutra's a killer in 1v1, if you can't bypass their charm and down them fast enough.

Massimus - Heavens Tear · October 2009

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

mmm i want tips on fighting 9x wizzies. their pdef is like 2-3 times my pdef (ya we're talking about robies), their force of will casts much faster than stunning arrow, and their distance shrink is like 25 meters v.v

all they do is force of will, dist shrink in for sophoric, then undine + sutra + bunch of nukes and it's like over. theres no way i can take down a 9x wiz before he takes me down w/ nukes esp with undine on me.

it's different if i get the stun in beforehand (since you still...more or less, outrange 9x wizzies by 2 meters unless they get sage/demon versions of a skill and you dont have demon/sage winged blessing), but if im in SZ and they're around SZ targetting me, then theres like no hope of getting out :-/

or maybe it'll get better when i have tt90 and better than +2 refines b:chuckle

Just use Wings of Grace when the counter for the duel is running. Then you're immune to stuns. But this requires one spark of course.

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