Worst idea ever - safetylock

AzureBeast_c - Harshlands
AzureBeast_c - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Suggestion Box
So the safety lock keeping you from dropping items was a pretty horrible idea. takes alot of the fun out of pking now that anyone can put it on and not drop. i think that the safety lock should only keep you from dropping from mobs. or at least increase the percentage of shattering from 1% to like.. 50% because this is just rediculous.
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  • daphkate
    daphkate Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I never turn on safety lock, whether I'm pking or not.
    For one, I think i's simply ridiculous to turn it on so you don't drop, that's a risk when you PK. If you don't wanna drop, buy Guardian Scrolls.
    For two, you never know when you might come across a piece of armor better then the one you currently have equipped.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands wrote: »
    So the safety lock keeping you from dropping items was a pretty horrible idea. takes alot of the fun out of pking now that anyone can put it on and not drop. i think that the safety lock should only keep you from dropping from mobs. or at least increase the percentage of shattering from 1% to like.. 50% because this is just rediculous.

    Can you drop weared equipment? If yes then safety lock is good idea, because I cannot imagine, If I lost TT90 armor+6 refined, which cost me millions. If you cannot drop wearing equipment, then is bad idea.b:laugh
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  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands wrote: »
    So the safety lock keeping you from dropping items was a pretty horrible idea. takes alot of the fun out of pking now that anyone can put it on and not drop. i think that the safety lock should only keep you from dropping from mobs. or at least increase the percentage of shattering from 1% to like.. 50% because this is just rediculous.

    safety lock prevent from droping stuff in order people can pvp/pk. If safety lock get chance to drop stuff, then you will QQ cause PVP will die and PKing as well. Besides you are the one in PVP server if safety lock have more chance to drop stuff people will start to not pvp at all.
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  • Peritia - Lost City
    Peritia - Lost City Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I'm surprised the devs havent realized that adding a -90% HP -90% P/M.Atk debuff while Safety Lock is active would both allow the safety lock to function as intended, and also pretty much completely eliminate potential for abuse.
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  • AzureBeast_c - Harshlands
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    safety lock prevent from droping stuff in order people can pvp/pk. If safety lock get chance to drop stuff, then you will QQ cause PVP will die and PKing as well. Besides you are the one in PVP server if safety lock have more chance to drop stuff people will start to not pvp at all.

    umm, wth are you talking about? all of my equip is bound and i have dolls. do you not realize safety lock hasnt always been around or something? i believe there shouldnt be safety lock in a pvp server. maybe you should read what i put instead of making rediculous assumptions k?
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Can you drop weared equipment? If yes then safety lock is good idea, because I cannot imagine, If I lost TT90 armor+6 refined, which cost me millions. If you cannot drop wearing equipment, then is bad idea.

    This is true if there was no other way to keep your equipment from dropping. but the thing is they implemented dolls to prevent any equip from dropping as well as allowing you to bind your equipment so they cannot be dropped. this feature certainly negates the effects of binding your equip and renders dolls almost completely useless.
  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands wrote: »
    umm, wth are you talking about? all of my equip is bound and i have dolls. do you not realize safety lock hasnt always been around or something? i believe there shouldnt be safety lock in a pvp server. maybe you should read what i put instead of making rediculous assumptions k?

    if you have bound gear and still you use dolls I can say only one thing...

    EPIC FAIL

    If you arent happy with safety lock, dont put it on. Safety lock is there for people that LOVE to PK, that enjoy being RED NAMED without dropping they gear. And a TT 80, 90 or 99 weapon dont cost 1 million like your TT 70. It took us weeks of working to get it, and we shouldnt drop it so easy.

    Besides your dumb complain is all about reward in pvp, for that make a suggestion to add arena with good rewards, messing again with safety lock only will put more players away for others games.

    Dolls are used only for players with unbound stuff and with safety lock off... oh wait.. but you bound your stuff and still use dolls...
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  • AzureBeast_c - Harshlands
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    if you have bound gear and still you use dolls I can say only one thing...

    EPIC FAIL

    If you arent happy with safety lock, dont put it on. Safety lock is there for people that LOVE to PK, that enjoy being RED NAMED without dropping they gear. And a TT 80, 90 or 99 weapon dont cost 1 million like your TT 70. It took us weeks of working to get it, and we shouldnt drop it so easy.

    Besides your dumb complain is all about reward in pvp, for that make a suggestion to add arena with good rewards, messing again with safety lock only will put more players away for others games.

    Dolls are used only for players with unbound stuff and with safety lock off... oh wait.. but you bound your stuff and still use dolls...

    Ok captain obvious, lets be smart. you bind your equip THAT YOU WEAR so it doesnt fall. but hey guess what? sometimes you pick up some nifty things that you wanna keep but you can't keep in your bank cause its filled with some other nifty things you want to keep. or you pick up some pk drops that you cant put in your bank right away. now lets take a wild guess as to what you would use so they dont drop. For everyone else but you id be guessing they would say you use dolls. woohoo logic!

    now as to the reward in pvp, there has to be some kind of incentive in pvp. its just how it kinda needs to be otherwize pvp gets boring. now i know what your saying.. Im not a true PVPer right?? no i have to say your wrong because jsut pure pvp has to get boring after a while just like anything else. its just how things work in general.
  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ok captain obvious, lets be smart. you bind your equip THAT YOU WEAR so it doesnt fall. but hey guess what? sometimes you pick up some nifty things that you wanna keep but you can't keep in your bank cause its filled with some other nifty things you want to keep. or you pick up some pk drops that you cant put in your bank right away. now lets take a wild guess as to what you would use so they dont drop. For everyone else but you id be guessing they would say you use dolls. woohoo logic!

    larger inventory? bank extention? creating alts to keep stuff and use mails to send back?

    Next time... waste your money and time on something usefullb:bye


    and you can sell your bound stuff to NPCs
    now as to the reward in pvp, there has to be some kind of incentive in pvp. its just how it kinda needs to be otherwize pvp gets boring. now i know what your saying.. Im not a true PVPer right?? no i have to say your wrong because jsut pure pvp has to get boring after a while just like anything else. its just how things work in general.

    in general people love to do pvp, if they had a reward or daily with a nice reward I bet people wouldnt give up so soon.
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  • AzureBeast_c - Harshlands
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    larger inventory? bank extention? creating alts to keep stuff and use mails to send back?

    Next time... waste your money and time on something usefullb:bye


    and you can sell your bound stuff to NPCs


    in general people love to do pvp, if they had a reward or daily with a nice reward I bet people wouldnt give up so soon.

    well i didnt spend my money on binding charms, they were given to me. and the dolls ive had since before the safety lock option came into place. so i dunno where i had wasted any money on anything that wasnt useful
  • bawksy
    bawksy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Peritia - Lost City wrote: »
    I'm surprised the devs havent realized that adding a -90% HP -90% P/M.Atk debuff while Safety Lock is active would both allow the safety lock to function as intended, and also pretty much completely eliminate potential for abuse.

    The devs should do this.
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    bawksy wrote: »
    The devs should do this.

    put it in a suggestion thread in the suggestion forum b:question
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  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    safety lock have been always here, recently safety lock have now new PENALTYS with is called shatter gear. a few months ago "the inteligent" were using safety lock in that time gear didnt shater and they didnt dropped stuff. they pked for free.

    all high levels know guardian angels arent usefull anymore...

    this is my lost post on a thread without head

    adding more penaltys to safety lock will only put more people away from the game.
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  • bawksy
    bawksy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    safety lock have been always here, recently safety lock have now new PENALTYS with is called shatter gear. a few months ago "the inteligent" were using safety lock in that time gear didnt shater and they didnt dropped stuff. they pked for free.

    all high levels know guardian angels arent usefull anymore...

    this is my lost post on a thread without head

    adding more penaltys to safety lock will only put more people away from the game.

    learn2bindgear&GA
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  • AzureBeast_c - Harshlands
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    safety lock have been always here, recently safety lock have now new PENALTYS with is called shatter gear. a few months ago "the inteligent" were using safety lock in that time gear didnt shater and they didnt dropped stuff. they pked for free.

    all high levels know guardian angels arent usefull anymore...

    this is my lost post on a thread without head

    adding more penaltys to safety lock will only put more people away from the game.

    safety lock has always been there, correct. but it didnt protect you from losing your gear. it just made sure you wouldnt attack certain types of players. now i know i am correct about this, it was in a patch update. check it yourself if you dont believe me.
  • Centetric - Lost City
    Centetric - Lost City Posts: 1,528 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    LOLZ they put the safety lock in the game to protect ur acc >.> (wat a GM said)

    AND

    WTF not every1 can afford the GA's and bind gear >.>.................( even tho im a cash shopper) im supprised you'd be so one sided about safety lock >.>

    ........they are human like u its not like they WANT their stuff to drop no1 wants to go back and regain ALL their TT gear or they could have dropped somethin that a friend wanted them to hold >_>
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  • AzureBeast_c - Harshlands
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Centetric - Lost City wrote: »
    LOLZ they put the safety lock in the game to protect ur acc >.> (wat a GM said)

    AND

    WTF not every1 can afford the GA's and bind gear >.>.................( even tho im a cash shopper) im supprised you'd be so one sided about safety lock >.>

    ........they are human like u its not like they WANT their stuff to drop no1 wants to go back and regain ALL their TT gear or they could have dropped somethin that a friend wanted them to hold >_>

    you dont need to be rich to bind gear or get guardian angels... so no im not really being one sided or nothing. just give the gear to a friend or dont pk if you cant afford a guardian angel.. seriously..
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands wrote: »
    safety lock has always been there, correct. but it didnt protect you from losing your gear. it just made sure you wouldnt attack certain types of players. now i know i am correct about this, it was in a patch update. check it yourself if you dont believe me.

    You made the mistake of mixing up safety lock and PvP lock. b:surrender

    Safety lock is that thing that goes off for a minute after you log on. If you set it to longer, it will keep a person from dropping your items if they **** you....a side effect was that you couldn't drop items when PKed.
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  • AzureBeast_c - Harshlands
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    You made the mistake of mixing up safety lock and PvP lock. b:surrender

    Safety lock is that thing that goes off for a minute after you log on. If you set it to longer, it will keep a person from dropping your items if they **** you....a side effect was that you couldn't drop items when PKed.

    WAHAHAHA my bad holmes. im totally drunk and tired. wish they had a facepalm emote b:laugh
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands wrote: »
    WAHAHAHA my bad holmes. im totally drunk and tired. wish they had a facepalm emote b:laugh

    It was such a big mistake when shattering was released that they made a sticky confirming the difference, so it's understandable b:cute

    Also, yes. A facepalm emote would be very useful.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Can you drop weared equipment? If yes then safety lock is good idea, because I cannot imagine, If I lost TT90 armor+6 refined, which cost me millions. If you cannot drop wearing equipment, then is bad idea.b:laugh

    It is best to get it bound so it won't drop.The safety lock is good for hackers as well.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    AzureBeast_c - Harshlands wrote: »
    So the safety lock keeping you from dropping items was a pretty horrible idea. takes alot of the fun out of pking now that anyone can put it on and not drop. i think that the safety lock should only keep you from dropping from mobs. or at least increase the percentage of shattering from 1% to like.. 50% because this is just rediculous.

    If you're red, and someone happens to log your account, with a "safety lock", they wont be able to take off gear right? If what you're saying is true, they can just move your char out of safe, get your char pk'd, and have that gear drop instead, would you really like that? Of course not. PWI over the past year has dealt with many account high jacking, and in the process people lost their gear (I've known at least 3 friends that had their gear stripped off, and had to resume to a long ticket and investigation process, I believe this has happened many many times....).

    Though, I do think it's kinda unfair for people to abuse the safety lock system, but face it: shattering your gear when PK'd SUCKS, sometimes you can lose 5+ mirage calestones....

    Only thing I can suggest is if someone is blood red WITHOUT Guardian Scrolls or bound gear, the shattered gear rate should go up tremendously.
  • Legendadry - Harshlands
    Legendadry - Harshlands Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    no offense but i dont see why you have a problem lol. remember not all of the ppl who play pwi on pk servers are smart. Saftey lock has a lot of drawbacks. #1 when ur blood red u have a higher % of shattering ur gears (including ur tomes and flys). #2 u cant sell things w/ SL on, or trade w/ cat shops or trade w/ other players or decomp gear, etc. the list goes on. Yes you can PK madly and insanely and for as long as u want until ur sl runs out. however if ur in a pk war and ur dieing alot, there's a higher chance ur going to shatter gear. most ppl started using sl more when gold peaked to 500k a piece. who wants to pay 150k-200k for a guardin scroll? guardian scrolls are usefull for pveing when u die. SL has a ton of disadvantages w/ really just 1 advantge. also most ppl still dont know how to use sl even higher lvls so theres still ppl who drop pickaxes out there ^^
    I dont level Slow I just enjoy the game b:surrender
  • Q - Dreamweaver
    Q - Dreamweaver Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    <3 safety lock
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    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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