blood bath - yes or no?

SirfFartAlot - Harshlands
SirfFartAlot - Harshlands Posts: 31 Arc User
edited November 2009 in Barbarian
can anyone tell me whether to max it or not?

anyone knows how much hp reduction there is in lvl 10?
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    16% reduce and 200% acc.
    and yes get it to max. if u wanna hit archers b:surrender
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

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  • Gabriil - Lost City
    Gabriil - Lost City Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    level 10 blodbath is 16% reduction in hp for an extra 200% accuracy (10k hp becomes 8,4k hp and 600 accuracy becomes 1800 accuracy). However, I think the hp reduction is not really worth it untill higher levels. I think it's quite easy to solve your accuracy problems with Ambers in your weapon and Misty Forest rings - +50% accuracy each (in 12 levels from yours). I am not a very big fan of bloodbath myself, although it is a must when fighting dex builds like archers and bms.
  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I'm not a fan of Bloodbath either. I very rarely use it. I prefer sharding and equipping for accuracy rather than decreasing HP. With shards and equips I have gotten my accuracy over 1100, which isn't great, but it sure beats seeing "miss, miss, miss" or losing a % of my HP.

    Edit to add: I don't play on a PvP server, so my build reflects that as well.
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  • chesticles
    chesticles Posts: 424 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    If you PvP i would.
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  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    in TW im the guilds armageddon barb, i got about 1.4k accuracy without Bloodbath. i still use it at all times. but thats because i dont like missing with armageddon in tw

    if you can get ur accuracy above 1.3k without bloodbath, its not really needed, even for archers (im talking about demon barbs) as we get 2 no miss skills, and i dont miss too much on archers at all anymore
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • Ganiju - Heavens Tear
    Ganiju - Heavens Tear Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    question. how hard is it to get demon blood bath?
    probably one of the smartest in perfect world
    yet the lowest of level
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    i use bloodbath for grinding, I find it helps speed things up a bit as far as not missing your target as much. for tanking, I go without considering FR is 100% accurate - and its the staple skill you use 99% of the time.

    ive found the following: level 6 Beast King Inspiration = + 22% HP, level 4 Blood bath = - 22% HP. Both at same time = base HP. Higher levels of either (or both) will result in HP being increased above base. grinding with both constantly activated is about the smartest move I can think of. Sure the increased HP is nice to start out with, but once your HP drops below the base HP mark - ive found its pretty much useless unless you pot constantly or wear a charm. (actually I do have a silver HP charm on even with that combination). so - i think its worth it.
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  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I don't think it makes sense using blood bath at that level. I've put an average accuracy shard into my weapon, and I find I hardly miss. Maybe I'm just lucky =)
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  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Ganiju - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    question. how hard is it to get demon blood bath?

    Not hard at allb:victory Allready got it :)

    4.5K Accuracy FTW b:laugh
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  • Ganiju - Heavens Tear
    Ganiju - Heavens Tear Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Not hard at allb:victory Allready got it :)

    4.5K Accuracy FTW b:laugh

    nice lol i am guessing you are PvP or PvPvE build but i like it for its 15% hp reduce for 300% increase in accuracy. question as well for you at what point is your gear +'ed at?
    probably one of the smartest in perfect world
    yet the lowest of level
  • Chefstabs - Heavens Tear
    Chefstabs - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Well don't use blood bath its at lvl 1 use amber shards and i have 2 misty rings
    and hit all the time i dont wht to lose that hp my 90 axes are going to have 2
    100+ amber shards really not worth it
  • Aznchristmas - Harshlands
    Aznchristmas - Harshlands Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    blood bath + amber means your shards are getting 3x their original accuracy

    having BB on is definitely noticeable, but in group PVP, just have someone else kill the archers
  • Dragono - Lost City
    Dragono - Lost City Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I think it depends on what do you want to use it.
    PvP: Very usefull
    PvE: Could be usefull for some Monsters
    As a tank: Unusefull becuase of the HP reduction

    If you have a lot of money you can use shards and Misty Forest Rings.
    On my lvl I have got 2 rings each +3 DEX, Tome +4 DEX and alot more with extra DEX and I hit everything =)

    So next one please for a comment ^^

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  • DaCage - Sanctuary
    DaCage - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Dont need to be rich for misty's I got mine for about 1.1m each. That with 2 flawless accuracy gems on my calamaties gives me 1200 accuracy(55 dex due too gear giving +dex) base. With bloodbath I only get about 2200 accuracy w/ lvl 7 bloodbath loosing 19% hp so I choose not to use bloodbath when PKing atm simply cause I hardly miss at archers without it and more arma damage with more hp
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    there are only a few things i fear in pwi...

    mantavip

    9x wizzies

    gold prices

    and barbs with maxed bloodbathb:shocked
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Ganiju - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    nice lol i am guessing you are PvP or PvPvE build but i like it for its 15% hp reduce for 300% increase in accuracy. question as well for you at what point is your gear +'ed at?

    Well, my gear is +6 atm. Got 20k HP in tiger and i am Demon.
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  • Malego - Heavens Tear
    Malego - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I don't use bloodbath, ever. It's still level 1 and I rarely miss anyway so I don't even need it.
    I am a barb that does not powerlevel, nor cash shop. I may not be the highest level, nor have the best gear. However unlike others, I know how to play.b:pleased
  • xxxdsmer
    xxxdsmer Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    sure. why nawt...

    IF you know when to use it and when not to use it.

    example of a time not to use it: when you're tanking a boss. especially if you're not super higher lvl than the boss, besides.. ur agro skill (flesh ream) is 100% hit.
    i'm pro all classes, and against none in particular..
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  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well, my gear is +6 atm. Got 20k HP in tiger and i am Demon.

    your gear is higher than +6 :) i have 18.5k with +6/+8 gear.
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    xxxdsmer wrote: »
    sure. why nawt...

    IF you know when to use it and when not to use it.

    example of a time not to use it: when you're tanking a boss. especially if you're not super higher lvl than the boss, besides.. ur agro skill (flesh ream) is 100% hit.

    If your HP is high enough you could use it even at bosses. I used to bloodbath bosses like polearm and gaurnob, cause in the sixties my dex was rather low, I had no mistys and I wanted my alclarity to actually hit and interrupt them (remember no genies back then and fleshream wasn't 100% either).
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  • damnation
    damnation Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    i use it to grind also but only on mobs i have under 80% chance of hitting, i hate seein the spam misses
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    your gear is higher than +6 :) i have 18.5k with +6/+8 gear.

    Nope, my gear is +6 Sticky :) You can check it in game if you like :)

    I quess its just a difference in point allocation. :)
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  • _Shalimar_ - Sanctuary
    _Shalimar_ - Sanctuary Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I have level 10 but I hardly use it. I have ambers in my weapon and two Misty rings. Also with my build I can often hit archers without missing too much. It does help against those full dex archers an fist bms who are decently higher level than me though.
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    wait...theres full dex fists above 90 on sanc?

    other fisties...i is not aloneb:pleasedb:pleased

    (str based fist here thoughb:surrender)

    yes barbs im here waching stealing your secrets
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Lycanthar - Sanctuary
    Lycanthar - Sanctuary Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I use it constantly in pvp, most of the time in pve (on mobs, not bosses)... Try to fight an archer or BM relying on only ambers+mistys... "I never miss" just got its **** blown away :P

    Max bloodbath if you ever plan go white name.
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  • Buknoybobo - Sanctuary
    Buknoybobo - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Not really worth getting until higher lvls.
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  • SchwarzeWolf - Lost City
    SchwarzeWolf - Lost City Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    max it as soon as you have extra spirit or money you are not putting into other skills.

    it has almost no pve use as tanking bosses is 100% hit with bite

    pvp it is best to not use it unless you know you will be fighting an archer (or another light armor)

    it will reduce your hp so it is kinda bad for our only finishing move (perdition) but that is why the genie skill tree of protection is so broken for us
  • unkx
    unkx Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    i have it on grade 2 and imo thats enough accuracy. Blood Bath is imo only useful if you fight bosses as second Barb (NOT TANKER) in normal form as supporter (Sunder). Otherwise its only useful to hit Archers in PVP but then you have to max it. So wait until you are 80+ to max it out.
  • Eliteknight - Sanctuary
    Eliteknight - Sanctuary Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    SchwarzeWolf - Lost City wrote: »
    max it as soon as you have extra spirit or money you are not putting into other skills.

    it has almost no pve use as tanking bosses is 100% hit with bite

    pvp it is best to not use it unless you know you will be fighting an archer (or another light armor)

    it will reduce your hp so it is kinda bad for our only finishing move (perdition) but that is why the genie skill tree of protection is so broken for us

    I have to agree with this if you use BB right then it can be a very powerful tool that comboed with ToP and you can still do some decent damage with arrma b:victory
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  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well, my gear is +6 atm. Got 20k HP in tiger and i am Demon.

    I'm a demon barb and have 24k hp =o
    That's with 268 str and 82 dex mind you
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