End game bow? Which one truly is the best?

hmmmmmm i think the lunar bow

In PvP, the CV bow is the best there is. Its special( removes enemies positive debuffs) can be a real life-saver. If you are fighting a person with all positive buffs, thats a massive increase in the difficulty to kill them. The bow+12 , has 2100-2900 roughly attack, and that against an un-buffed enemy, you can probably guess what happens. If you will be doing pve alot, the hh99 or hh100 crossbows are a good choice. With the anniversary packs not out any more, the hh100 is going to cost a nice 250m+, so I wouldnt really suggest it. With the +175 or so attack on the hh99, it almost comes out to the hh100's base damage.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Raw damage wise, the gold 100 x will always be better then cv. And if you ever used a cv you would know that the debuff doesn't proact that often. Its really stupid to count on something that most likely is NOT going to be there.

My lunar bow rarely debuffs in pvp, nearly useless in pve. Only thing I like is the aoe purging in barrage, which has a significantly higher chance to purge.

The faster attack speed is good but not really that helpful unless you had stacked - interval gear.

I hated the anniversary event, but glad I was able to purchase this bow w/o having to spend months of farming lunar mats. I wouldn't have been too happy with the results after all that trouble.

Cbastor - Lost City wrote: »

i know u said besides jun8 but...just get the jun8,its possible and jun8 plus 1 is better then a plus 12 cv bow i think, or pretty close xD

CV bow doesn't compare with 8jun... The only real advantage that the CV bow has V.S. a HH99 bow is that its a higher grade bow and the interval increase. However, compared to a 8jun, it doesn't have any exceptional advantage but the purge proc(which as someone already posted, is useless).

If it's for raw damage and speed, there's always the option of trying to craft a gold100 OHT Bow with a -.1 interval add-on. Since it'll have higher raw damage output and the same advantage that the CV bow has in the first place.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I am going to see a warsoul before an old ht level 100 bow with -.1 int. I think i went through 2 whole stacks of 1k tears making the bracer and only got 1 gold lvl 100 bracer.

b:chuckle

I've gone through about 1000+ tears on wrists and have only seen ONE two star -0.05 second interval with pdef. It wasn't even 5 res either. b:cry

Thought I'd see a warsoul axe before I saw gold level 100 axes with beserk but then comes along calvin.

Zhadou - Heavens Tear wrote: »

CV all the way
other than the fact that the adds are awesome and the grade is very high..

it just looks so sick b:victory

another fan boy caught up in the hype...

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And for the record: a +12 cv doesn't have "2100-2900" in damage.

CV Base: 822-1527
+12: 1050
Total: 1872-2577

It does have 2.1-2.9k dmg at +12. Look for Shinzoko on LC (these days trying to vend his cloudcharger for 120mil @ 1k) and you'll see that pwdb is *gasp* incorrect.

lol @ the people calling this bow useless. If you're on a PVP server, CV bow is one of the best, but you just need to fully understand how it works and the fastest way to proc (which is basically aoe and/or quickshot).

Check out my most recent TW with CV bow in action (lost city ofc):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u5TRP2ZtfA

Watch for 1:15 as I zhen on cata teams. If you notice around the targets, debuff procs quite a bit (I counted 3 times during the first zhen). In that same scene, I debuff an archer attacking me as I ream him with quickshot. I then open up zhen a second time to about 2-3 debuffs during the first zhen tick. AOE is where the debuff shines, as it's sporadic with single targets. When it does proc on say, high level mages fully buffed with insane gear, it's over for them.

With both bows at +10, I would go for CV bow b/c it's as fast as a sling, G13, and yes, debuff. Demon stun + quickshot, gives me a 41% crit rate at 1.10 atk/sec with only hh90 gold wrists (1.18 if I also use the lvl60 rank chest).

Bottom line is that I wouldn't trade CV bow for anything except warsoul and/or rank8

not only is the level 105 xbow unobtainable realisticly in any server, it's weaker on both high and low spikes compared to rank 8. the hh100 xbow, also, fails in comparison to the strength of rank 8.

105 xbow: 1923-2986 - 2% crit, 80~ patk, 13 agi
hh100: 1984-3129 - 4% crit, -.1 interval
rank 8: 2432-3456 - 4% crit, -.1 interval, 15 agi

if you even have to think about which 1 is better, you're doing something wrong.

hh99 is not impossible to get. get to a level that matters and try it yourself.

@cv bow:

2134-2839 at +12.

http://pwcalc.ru/my/?char=ccbd878a58f0b6d7

a g13 gold weapons is obviously not going to be better than a g14 orange weapon.

Transcend - Lost City wrote: »

It does have 2.1-2.9k dmg at +12. Look for Shinzoko on LC (these days trying to vend his cloudcharger for 120mil @ 1k) and you'll see that pwdb is *gasp* incorrect.

lol @ the people calling this bow useless. If you're on a PVP server, CV bow is one of the best, but you just need to fully understand how it works and the fastest way to proc (which is basically aoe and/or quickshot).

Check out my most recent TW with CV bow in action (lost city ofc):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u5TRP2ZtfA

Watch for 1:15 as I zhen on cata teams. If you notice around the targets, debuff procs quite a bit (I counted 3 times during the first zhen). In that same scene, I debuff an archer attacking me as I ream him with quickshot. I then open up zhen a second time to about 2-3 debuffs during the first zhen tick. AOE is where the debuff shines, as it's sporadic with single targets. When it does proc on say, high level mages fully buffed with insane gear, it's over for them.

With both bows at +10, I would go for CV bow b/c it's as fast as a sling, G13, and yes, debuff. Demon stun + quickshot, gives me a 41% crit rate at 1.10 atk/sec with only hh90 gold wrists (1.18 if I also use the lvl60 rank chest).

Bottom line is that I wouldn't trade CV bow for anything except warsoul and/or rank8

i may be wrong about the cv refine since i gave it up after the fail proacts. the debuff might works in zhen when you have like 10 targets. but how often do you zhen? vs... normal shots. speaking from experience, debuff have like a 2-3% chance of proacting. and when using cv, i lost well over 1k in damage.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

yep... glad you figure it out sooner rather then later.

well if i'm wrong or not, i'll be happy
i already have my CV and i'm just waiting to hit that lvl to use it
2 bad we're not in the same server

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i may be wrong about the cv refine since i gave it up after the fail proacts. the debuff might works in zhen when you have like 10 targets. but how often do you zhen? vs... normal shots. speaking from experience, debuff have like a 2-3% chance of proacting. and when using cv, i lost well over 1k in damage.

Considering the frequent use of quickshot, it happens more often than you'd expect. I don't "expect" it to happen on every person I fight, but it's awesome when it does, especially on the first shot. Since most people I target (robes and some LA) are down relatively quickly, they are either killed or debuffed and scurrying away from the battle.

I'm usually on base defense during TWs, I've been able to use qs to debuff cata pullers quite often. Using only gold hh90 wrist, I lob off 1.10 atk/sec (1.18 with lvl60 chest) during quickshot, and even if it doesn't proc on the first qs, I can stun/freeze the target long enough to debuff them.

It's a great bow if you have the right skills (pun) and logic to get the most out of it.

o_O I um..like the lunar/cv slingshot xD Im all about speedy attacks + I like the seal effect