Get Smart & buy cheapest Herc using COINS
chelseacraft
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Simply go to any Auctioneer NPC & select Gold Trade... buy gold at the lowest price you can. Now use that gold to buy battle packs.
You will average 25 SoF or Nix feathers per pack. That means if you bought 20 packs & add all your SoF & Nix up & divide by 20 it will be approximately 25 SoF or Nix per pack that you got.
CLUE: U can trade Nix feathers for Source of Fource at PET MANAGERS.
DO THE MATH!!! Get out your calculator & work it out.
Do NOT pay 8k or 10k per SoF
I've gotten SoF for as little as 3k each this way... & the most I've paid is 5.8k so far. I still have a long way to go but this is the cheapest way to buy SoF.
You will average 25 SoF or Nix feathers per pack. That means if you bought 20 packs & add all your SoF & Nix up & divide by 20 it will be approximately 25 SoF or Nix per pack that you got.
CLUE: U can trade Nix feathers for Source of Fource at PET MANAGERS.
DO THE MATH!!! Get out your calculator & work it out.
Do NOT pay 8k or 10k per SoF
I've gotten SoF for as little as 3k each this way... & the most I've paid is 5.8k so far. I still have a long way to go but this is the cheapest way to buy SoF.
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while OP's numbers might be pretty off, and prices of gold vary from server to server, what he says is fairly true.
i cringe whenever i see people buy sof/feathers for 8k each0 -
5.8k is still to high considering a new (un lvld) herc/nix if worth between between 25mil and 30mil (last I checked) I wouldn't advise buying for over 3k.
The whole thing is player driven supply and demand, as long as people are willing to pay that 5K - 10k then prices will remain there. I think what may be needed is a pet pack sale to bring the prices back to their lower price at least for a little while since I highly doubt people will use their heads and stop paying higher and higher prices.0 -
umm... I don't think there needs to be a sale on anything actually. If you have a sale on one thing - it'll drive the price of another thing up. and here's the reason -- if a CS item goes on sale, people immediately want to buy it at the lower price. So what happens is the gold sellers will up their prices in anticipation of increased demand for gold... the people wanting X item that is on sale may still be getting it cheaper than before, coinwise, but typically not. however, the items that are not on sale also now cost more coin to purchase.
if you really want a CS item and can't sling upwards of 300k (dreamweaver gold prices) for one gold, and don't have the RL money to spend... do some of the free zen offers.
now, battle pet packs currently cost 50 silver - if you average 25 sof/nix feathers per pack, then 1 gold will yield 50 on average. If gold sells for 300k, your paying that times 1.02 (gold trading fee) = 306k. This brings unit price (coinwise) to approx.. 6120 coins. Thats "on average" according to OP's figures. half that if you are lucky and get 50 per pack. 15.3 k apiece if all you get is 10 per pack.I'm a man0 -
Yea, I thought the same about those crazy prices. And it's even better, if I didn't make some mistake.
You can get 10 to 50 SoF/Feathers per pack, so it's
(10+20+30+40+50)/5 = 30
I'm not quite sure if the chances are even, but you should calculate with 30 per pack in average.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Calculate all you want - the distribution isn't even, and over 20,000 total feathers/SoF you get a pretty clear demonstration that the average is something like 26.5 (Or maybe I got lucky, I'm willing to believe it is actually 25, it's certainly in the range 25-27)
Gold has dropped back to 330-350k on my server, making a 'rational' price for a SoF/feather around 7k.
Paying more than that would indeed be a mistake.0 -
I sure wished I had the coins to do this with.You might want to tell Veno's how to earn coins as well.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0
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Now, at Sanctuary server, Gold price is around 300k - 1Gold u can buy 2packs and S/F each unity are at 7k -10k u must drop more than 30S/F to get a profit.
Then sometimes will worth and sometimes u lost coins during the Gold price didnt raise again.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Arshies - Sanctuary0 -
Absolute cheapest is to wait for a pet-pack sale. They come often enough that I would, in fact, advise never buying petpacks except during a sale.
(And if you're charging zen, wait for a sale to do that as well)
But yeah - the rise in the price of gold has really made the legendary pets a lot less affordable. For raising money until then... kill things and take their stuff. Or farm mats, I guess. (Ult subs are going back up again now the anniversary event tokens are rarer)
You can get decent profits from celstones too - which means farming TT11 solo-mode can be just barely profitable, and you can do that with a non-herc pet. I'm not sure I seriously advise that over just grinding out DQ items though. The ones needed for quests sell pretty well.0 -
Xegeth - Dreamweaver wrote: »Yea, I thought the same about those crazy prices. And it's even better, if I didn't make some mistake.
You can get 10 to 50 SoF/Feathers per pack, so it's
(10+20+30+40+50)/5 = 30
I'm not quite sure if the chances are even, but you should calculate with 30 per pack in average.
It's not an even distribution, the average is 26.8 per pack. I'm not sure what gold is right now, someone was telling me 340k. If that's the case you're looking at 340000*1.02/26.8/2=6470.149254 coin per SoF/Feather for the break even point, or 6471+ on a catshop is more expensive than you would pay just buying gold.
Oh, if you buy gold with coin to get a pet, don't bid at a price with more than 10 gold on it (maybe 15), this includes the bids you place as well. If you go above that people will simply bid over you, and the end result is a temporary increase in gold prices. Staggering bids is your friend, you'll pay less for the gold and less in listing fees.0 -
Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »Absolute cheapest is to wait for a pet-pack sale. They come often enough that I would, in fact, advise never buying petpacks except during a sale.
How much was it the last time they had a pet-pack sale?0 -
Sales make it 30 silver rather than 50 silver per pack.0
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Guess I should update the chart. If you calculate the probabilities, the packs average 26.8 each according to pwdatabase. My experience matches the pwdatabase figures (26.9 and 26.7 for my herc and phoenix).
There's a 2% transaction fee for buying gold. So the average cost per feather/SoF works out to:
(gold_price * 1.02) / (2*26.8)
For the following gold prices, the corresponding feather/SoF price is:
200k 3806
210k 3996
220k 4187
230k 4377
240k 4567
250k 4757
260k 4948
270k 5138
280k 5328
290k 5519
300k 5709
310k 5899
320k 6090
330k 6280
340k 6470
350k 6660
360k 6851
370k 7041
380k 7231
390k 7422
400k 7612
410k 7802
420k 7993
430k 8183
440k 8373
450k 8563
460k 8754
470k 8944
480k 9134
490k 9325
500k 9515
510k 9705
520k 9896
530k 10086
540k 10276
550k 10466
560k 10657
570k 10847
580k 11037
590k 11228
600k 11418
610k 11608
620k 11799
630k 11989
640k 12179
650k 12369
660k 12560
670k 12750
680k 12940
690k 13131
700k 13321
710k 13511
720k 13701
730k 13892
740k 14082
750k 142720
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