Leg vs Nef... Plus Reg!

Briegg - Sanctuary wrote: »

oh a few things happened

one was a couple weeks or so ago(maybe logner i have trouble remember exact dates)

but when both nef and leg hit a little bump(back when dreaming obtained a territory)

Nef REcovered However leg did not so much

Both were still the strongest factions
But nef began to take territory's away from leg steadily

which was one part

The more recent problem was a combo of the anniversary event
and gradual gold increase before that
and the uhh" game that must not be named" xP
and the change of leader
and the appointment of new officers on not-so-fair rumored terms

which caused alot of higher levels in leg to leave
and migrate to the next TW-ing factions, mainly nef, regi +enelysion, dreaming, lionsoul etc
also make their own original factions
meanwhile Reg has been steadily gaining strength

which led us to just these past two weeks where in which we acquired two territorys

added somethings, possible true or untrue are quoted rumors.
Money related things and losses make a big faction crumble fast.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think a lot of it is simply PWI burnout after lvling char to 90 or 100.Then you go out and TW would really make anyone to burnout.This why lvl cap would be nice.Reg may have territory but whose did they go after yeah the weaker guild.I see others going after Leg. which makes me to believe what really going on.I only see one other guild going after Nef.s Territory as they have no challengers.

I wonder where those who are going after Leg. are getting their coins from?

PWI does have a level cap it's 105

And ofcourse we're going to go after the Weaker guild
If you have a chance to take a land then you take it!

We're not going to attack nef simply because no one else is
this is war and tactics are needed
Nef has proven time and time again that even in the face of three
stronger guilds they are able to defend them all successfully

and are you saying that nef is bribing all of the others guilds?
..
that's sad really..

Ayano-chan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Here's a really short explanation : lots important leg members got bored/fed up with the game and quit while nef and regi ppl kept playing.

QFT. Regi after the recent event and hike in gold prices suffered a total loss of maybe 5-6 individuals, if that. The rest either took semi-breaks, in which they still did dailies and saved up some cash, or took it all in stride and kept charging forth.

Stealthninja - Sanctuary wrote: »

exactly what aya wrote

and ppl moved on to regi from leg bcuz i know theres some of us that still wanna see nef fall and the only way to do it is to join the next powerful guild which happened to be them

And with that movement will come people pointing their fat little fingers, ridiculing these players for playing the game they want to play.


ya'll should get a life and stop concerning yourselves with other people's actions....even if it's the closest resemblance to human interaction you'll probably get b:bye

Stealthninja - Sanctuary wrote: »

exactly what aya wrote

and ppl moved on to regi from leg bcuz i know theres some of us that still wanna see nef fall and the only way to do it is to join the next powerful guild which happened to be them

reg fight nef? lol. that will never happen until all of legendary's lands are gone.
weeeeeeeeeee lets all join reg to fight nef guys since legendarys crumbling! owait why do i see only legendaries in tw b:puzzled b:question

MiStAiSa - Sanctuary wrote: »

reg fight nef? lol. that will never happen until all of legendary's lands are gone.

you're kidding right? up until a couple weeks ago all regi did was fight Nef.. its only bc leg is looking a bit weak that they r going after leg..

Risingdragon - Sanctuary wrote: »

not couple weeks venus they always follow LG's tail to atk us every weeks, they start atk LG now cuz they know LG is falling and weak b:avoid

Well whatever the real reason is, the truth is that they only got a WHOPPING TWO CHOICES to choose from, to attack. Either one. Or the other.
TBH i think Regi switched attack from nef to LG a the time RIGHT BEFORE when YOU guys were wobbling too, really a few months back lucky for you saves the QQing. If alot of things hadnt come together, maybe regi would have still been on you.
LG could be weaker now. But another reason could be fighting LG is more fun? who knows. LG wasnt exactly KNOWN for their steamrolls, and in the end, win or loss, its enjoying the game is what counts. Pple do tend to ignore the ones who dont fit their standards of fun in a game.

Regicide was attacking Nefarious because they were allied with Legendary. So with one of the two factions holding land being an ally, you can only attack the other. However, this alliance dissolved.

Legendary is weak. Yes. No. Obviously, not as weak as everyone thinks it is because they seem to be only losing to Regicide and Nefarious (one week they didn't even bother to show up to defend against Nefarious).

Also, it's hard to keep your members when there is very little respect between them, as quoted from a friend who stayed in Legendary for two days before she couldn't stand it any longer.

It's sad watching your original faction fall so hard. b:surrender

Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »

Regicide was attacking Nefarious because they were allied with Legendary. So with one of the two factions holding land being an ally, you can only attack the other. However, this alliance dissolved.

Legendary is weak. Yes. No. Obviously, not as weak as everyone thinks it is because they seem to be only losing to Regicide and Nefarious (one week they didn't even bother to show up to defend against Nefarious).

Also, it's hard to keep your members when there is very little respect between them, as quoted from a friend who stayed in Legendary for two days before she couldn't stand it any longer.

It's sad watching your original faction fall so hard. b:surrender

We had agreed on a joint attack on Nef after failing to get Milari/Destroyer_X to cooperate with us, but we were far from allies. As soon as Legendary felt they could solo Nefarious we were no longer needed in the equation.. so no further communication from that point, and we went our own way. Sudden leadership changes without warning gave us further confusion on Leg's motives.

Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's sad watching your original faction fall so hard. b:surrender

its a bit sadder watching pple bail so fast too... 'because my friends went there' popular quotes :O

RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary wrote: »

Xoria, do us all a favor and get your facts straight before you start posting random thoughts that enter your head and flow straight through your fingers while typing.

Regicide has never had any ally, since I joined at level 7x. Ever. Just because a faction openly admits to intentionally slot with a stronger faction to gain an advantage does not mean they are allies.

Oh my, a bit of a nasty tongue there. Rumors are rumors and it very well seemed an alliance since the two were scratching one anothers' backs.

Also, Risen, do us all a favor and be a bit more civil? All you had to do was say "No, Xo, Regi never had an ally. It was just a rumor. Thank you." b:surrender They should teach some manners in school, I swear.

Stealthninja - Sanctuary wrote: »

exactly what aya wrote

and ppl moved on to regi from leg bcuz i know theres some of us that still wanna see nef fall and the only way to do it is to join the next powerful guild which happened to be them

That is still not enough to take on Nef and they do have an ally.

tatu3110 wrote: »

"Successful factions don't just emerge from no where. They must be built from the ground up. It takes time, effort, and organization to reach the top." - TheDan



and its seen in the recent past that any guild who tried to merge and build up always had to falll some how ... SW merged with epic. Regi + Rebirth ...... at the end u have to build up ur core no matter what.. and core members cant be found from merges but from the ones who have been there with u ever since day 1....

I seem to be your main topic of discussion even when I'm offline at school lol.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all those merges were successful, and they all had the potential to keep growing up until the leader/founder of the faction quit, and transitioning of leadership didn't go as smoothly as it should have.

Just how I see it, against correct me if I'm wrong:

Shockwave + EPIC - Leader (Godsfear) disappears with guild money

The9Kings + Knightz = Ravenous - Leader (Tekkblade) takes leave, guild crumbled

Amplified + Seppuku - Leader (Nishtara) elects new Leader and disappeared, guild declined slowly

Hybrid + Darkfate = "Rebirth" - Largely successful until Leader (xAsch) had his absence due to RL issues, guild declining slowly

Nef + NWO = Steel - Was successful until a few infamous recruits destroyed their Reputation and mass drama, guild imploded

Amplified + Nef = Nemesis - Was successful until Leader and Officers left due to an in-game Duke Rose exploit, guild imploded

Legendary + Shockwave/Steel - Very successful, no notable problems up until the event packs + coming of new game crippled them. Maybe also leadership disputes

Regicide(old) - Almost died due to Dreamweavor server coming out/Validus created/Rebirth Gamma, went from 200 to 120 members. Recovered back to 200 over 4 months time.

Regicide(present) Regicide + Rebirth - I'll leave this one open to discussion if you'd like to answer this one for me.

Core members can come from anywhere, and normally the old members who have been here since the start, very few still play. New members replace the ones that are gone. Core members can't really be calculated by any quantitative measure, as they are just your opinion by the merit in which they build by contributing to hold together the faction's core.

So a large chunk of Nef Officers actually came from Outlaw, and a large chunk of Leg Officers came from 7Sins/NWO/Regicide/WiccanWay. The truth is, most players from the larger guilds can't say that it was their first and only faction.

Amplified + Seppuku - Leader (Nishtara) elects new Leader and disappeared, guild declined slowly

Never though amplified somewhat merged with sepp as well .

Amplified + Nef = Nemesis - Was successful until Leader and Officers left due to an in-game Duke Rose exploit, guild imploded

Didn't know this amplified merged with some nefs to create nemesis either , the nemesis guys were an interesting bunch , I was usually fighting against them in pk and I was sometimes teaming with nefs against them , sadly when we started talking more and got to know a few better the duke rose exploit took place >< .

Nef + NWO = Steel - Was successful until a few infamous recruits destroyed their Reputation and mass drama, guild imploded

Credit goes to Vert , MissB and the vert-worshipers . If I think about it I used to team up with some nefs against steel too , lulz :P .

Lycanthar - Sanctuary wrote: »

QF an unfortunate T. b:surrender

I wouldnt blame this last change of leadership for the decline of leg. On September 2nd when the packs started coming out about half of the core members quit game right there if not literally than mentally. There was not much left to recover.

Something that was very apparent when I stepped down was that there were few people still interested in putting in work to run the guild after so many stopped caring, including myself. Willow had to act quickly to replace officers and that meant pulling people in. She found those she was able to pull in the quickest.

Also I didn't realize I counted as "a large chunk" since I was the only officer that was once in WiccanWay (though I was in Shockwave for a few weeks as well).