Need advice on lvl80ish equipments please

Oichii - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Honestly I think Glaive > Swords in M Atk since Lv 90 Glaive > Lv 90 Sword by +1000 or more MAtk but then again its your preference. If you are going with -Channeling Gear might as well get the TT80 Magic Sword which further adds -3% Channeling.

Here's something I was playing around with ^^ A Set with Full Channeling Gear well, it has reasonably sane and obtainable -Channeling Gear on it but has very low Physical Defense x.x

Lv80 Channeling Equipment Setup
Note : Requires Rank 4 Robe + Channeling Gear with -3% Chan (-3% Chan is Quite Easy to obtain unlike its -6% Chan Counterpart)

But most importantly, PDef is the main stat that any Robe User Veno would need past 70s as Physical Mobs tend to hit harder and harder. Dont ever get TT80 Green Leggings and Armlets, they suck balls.

The BEST gear you could have at 8x is the TT set, but honestly its not worth the cost of farming it (unless you really just love to do TT for some reason).

A good substitute would be the lvl 77 Steppenwolf Lord's Cape (+1350 mdef, +4 mag) with the lvl 70 Dark Pants of Hades (+1075 mdef, +5 vit, +1% damage reduc). Comes out to probably a quarter of the price of the TT set.

Also since you plan on tanking with herc, try the lvl 77 mold wrists (-6% channeling). -3% rings are ok, but you really wont notice them until they combine with other channeling gear. May want to grab the demon heart ring until you can find -6% channeling

As for Pdef, its not something you can really fix if you stay strictly arcane. Sharding hp is a better option, or you could consider going arcane/heavy and have the best of both worlds.

Oichii - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Dont ever get TT80 Green Leggings and Armlets, they suck balls.

Your right, the +7 magic, +7 dex, +6 vit that comes with the HH 80 armlets really does suck b:chuckle . Take my advice, there AWESOME, especially if you decide to go heavy/arcane

Oichii - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Gains with -Chan Eqp :
1> -Chan Effect of course
Surely useful for faster Healing. -Chan Effects are noticeable only after -10% Channeling, Anything below that and you don't even notice the effect.

Losses with -Chan Eqp :

1> Very Low PDef
-Chan Eqp mostly exists on MDef Accessories. Note that most of Robe Class's PDef can be obtained from Refined PDef Accessories (Belt + Necklace).

2> Loss of Magic Atk
Most Equipment that have -Chan are low on M Atk like the TT80 Magic Sword with -3% Chan for instance. This varies for TT90 though since all TT90 Green have -Chan, but I'm mostly referring to normal Rings with -Chan Bonuses with nothing else.

So the question is
Would you be ready to lose MAtk + PDef for -Chan ?
Its upto you. Surely I wouldnt want to. I would rather be choosy and pick the Eqp that give me -Chan without compromising my PDef & MAtk.

(-Chan Effects are quite noticeable above -10% I believe. To be honest, though -Chan seems to be a really good way to go, you have more to lose.. )

2> Yea well, there isn't a "Golden Rule" that so much "PDef" is necessary since various people have various opinion about how much PDef they think is necessary but I think, I would agree with Refining your Lv 90 PDef Belt & Necklace to as high Refining Levels as possible.

I think you would know what I mean when you look at this ^^ This is somewhat my ideal PVE/PVP Pure Magic Veno at Lv 90.

Lv90 Pure Magic Venomancer
(Note : I haven't included the recent Frost Valley Equipment or High Refines since most players cant afford all those. But this setup, i believe with a little effort is quite possible )

-ch can't be done with refines / imbues, but pdef / survivability can. You waste pdef on citrines: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b538974174efd3e8 . Garnets are much cheaper. Ornaments are swappable as needed, and can provide vit (better than straight hp).

_Lyra - Lost City wrote: »

Your right, the +7 magic, +7 dex, +6 vit that comes with the HH 80 armlets really does suck b:chuckle . Take my advice, there AWESOME, especially if you decide to go heavy/arcane

+7 dex is worth? You can get vit and mag from tomes that you don't have to get rid of when you level up. You can also compensate with ornaments/imbues/refines with the coin saved from TT.

+m/s can't be added easily either. -%ch may not be noticeable, that doesn't mean it's not effective. Do note though that it only affects channeling: not casting.

Lolite - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I forgot to mention that both of my rings have -3% chan and magic + 4 >_< Will the extra magic + 6 (combined) on demon hearts rings be that noticeable in my heals?

It depends on your balance between magic score and equipment magic attack. Your overall magic attack score goes as:

m.atk = (1 + mag/100 + bonus) * (weapon_mag_atk + ring_mag_atk)

bonus is the % increase from things like sparks.

So if you have 200 mag, adding +6 increases the left side of the equation from (1 + 200/100) to (1 + 206/100), or from 3.00 to 3.06, which is a 2% increase.

Basically, if your mag score is low, adding mag makes a bigger difference. If your weapon attack is low, adding equipment attack makes a bigger difference. I'm too tired to calculate tradeoff points on this tonight. You'll have to plug in your own stats to figure it out.

@ tweakz
Now I'm confused... casting vs channeling? b:sad

Channeling delay is the time from when you push the button to when the spell fires.
Casting delay is the time you have to wait after the spell fires, before you can push another button.

e.g. Level 10 pet heal has a 1.5 sec channel delay, and 1.0 sec cast delay. So you push button, 1.5 sec later the heal lands, 1.0 sec later you can push the button again. So you're healing once every 2.5 sec.

If you have -21% channel, that reduces the channeling time from 1.5 sec to 1.185 sec (call it 1.2 sec). So you push the button and 1.2 sec later the heal lands, 1.0 sec later you can push the button again. So your reaction time (when you push the button to when the spell effect lands) is lowered from 1.5 sec to 1.2 sec which is pretty significant. But if you're spam healing, the heal rate only drops from once every 2.5 sec to once every 2.2 sec. Not as big an improvement.

So channeling is more important for being reactive, like PvP or if you're mixing up spells as you need them. Not as important for spam healing (although still very helpful - if you can get your heal rate to be quicker than the boss' attack rate, you are golden).