Any point to having random -3% chan items?

Nigrosity - Heavens Tear
Nigrosity - Heavens Tear Posts: 116 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Wizard
If you dont' really have anything else that gives channelling, is it a good idea to have a ring that's just -3% chan, or should i go for a +vit + mag attack ring instead?

Pure magic btw
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    id just get the magic atk / vit ring instead, -channeling is kinda pointless if you dont stack it past -10%
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If you dont' really have anything else that gives channelling, is it a good idea to have a ring that's just -3% chan, or should i go for a +vit + mag attack ring instead?

    Pure magic btw

    could you please keep your **** in the same place pls? You can ask more than 1 question in a post, you know?

    A mod can u please merge the two topics?

    Now back on topic: 3% channel is nothing if that's all u have.
    You are lvl 80. Probably the best weapon for a mage at lvl 90 is the wheel of denied fate ( TT90 glaive). Stats on that glaive improve something we're already good at: dmg. If u want some ballance get the Conqueror, the added HP is nice but the dmg output won't be that big. Depends on play style.
    I think both are having -3 channel.

    Channel becomes visible when u have over 15%. Some will say 20, but I can tell u , at 15% the difference is there, u can see it clearly.
    For PvP stacking -channel is not a good deal unless u can stack about 30% at least ( I have venos in my guild that are around and over 40%). Otherwise, better stack +crit + HP or +attk +HP

    I currently have 15% channel and in PvE helps a lot. I have a -3 elem neck, -6 elem belt and -6 from lvl 77 sleeves. With this amount of channel I can kill mobs 1-3 lvl above me (even non elementals) without depending on FoW to avoid hits (true, I use WotP). Both rings are lvl 88 ones with +21+24 attk options on both. Twin brothers b:chuckle
    In PvP I switch to Sky Demon Perl/ OHT reward belt and I have a +130HP+1% crit on 1 ring and +80HP+1% crit on the second.

    Attk is dropping a little bit, but I get about 200 HP more from rings only. In total, with the bonuses from necklace and belt, I get +400HP more in this configuration, plus almost double pdef (even more now with sage SB).

    So yeah, although probably expensive for some players, I found it very very usefull to have a set of max dmg ornaments and a set of max pdef&HP ornaments. I switch them according to the sittuation I'm in.
    Having one ornament that fits both needs is nice but insanely expensive at least for me.
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  • Marshmallows - Dreamweaver
    Marshmallows - Dreamweaver Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm a lvl 48 veno and I want to heal faster... I have the highest pet heal I can for my level and -6% chan on my gear, but I still can't seem to heal my pet fast enough to solo qingzi. Any tips? Maybe I should have a Wheel of Fate....?
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    MAYBE??????????????

    get that WoF ASAP.

    Well wait, you're 48. U need to buy 5 gold at 50 to open the box and get the General Summer Magic Sword. And at 400k/gold that's 2 mil easily.

    so....GET THAT WoF ASAP... lol :D. Get a 2 socket one, +3 refined at least, u will change it only when u hit 60. Ask around in archos, u can get a nice WoF at around 1.3-1.6 mil.

    Good luck!
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  • Marshmallows - Dreamweaver
    Marshmallows - Dreamweaver Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Yikes! I have nowhere near that much money ;__; I guess I need to money farm more somehow..
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    farm something with good DQ drops. Foxwing Supremes or somethign...dunno, check the sticky guide for grinding.
    Veno is a cash making machine. My lvl 27 veno has 500k+ in the bank and I never farmed anything. I just lvled doing the culti quests. At 48 u can pretty much make about 300k/hour as a veno, so farm 2 days and get that WoF.

    ...ah...memories...Mine I think was between the first 10 manufactured on Dreamweaver...lol
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  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I did absolutely fine without that weapon till lvl 60. If you dont wanna spend so much money dont do it because someone else says you must.
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  • Nigrosity - Heavens Tear
    Nigrosity - Heavens Tear Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Thanks for the replies, the reason I made two different topics is because they are two different subjects IMO.

    One is about channeling, one is about rings.

    I am lvl 90 btw, and I went for the Requiem Blade (2.5 million) vs the Conqueror (20~ million) b/c the only difference is a few magic and vit and the channeling.

    What is this OHT reward belt you speak of? I haven't gotten anything yet...
  • Hisuna - Sanctuary
    Hisuna - Sanctuary Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    farm something with good DQ drops. Foxwing Supremes or somethign...dunno, check the sticky guide for grinding.
    Veno is a cash making machine. My lvl 27 veno has 500k+ in the bank and I never farmed anything. I just lvled doing the culti quests. At 48 u can pretty much make about 300k/hour as a veno, so farm 2 days and get that WoF.

    ...ah...memories...Mine I think was between the first 10 manufactured on Dreamweaver...lol

    I....don't really agree with that at all. It's true venos are capable of making a lot of coin in game, in comparison to other classes. I can make 300k+ an hour now easily (but why grind when other things like TT are available at this level), but at level 48? I just don't see that happening.
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    well, sorry for you.
    I was making that much cash with my wizard at that lvl.
    I remember very clearly that at that time a MP gold charm was 300k. And I was making that cash grinding 1h outside Sundown Town at Ramshackle Rocs.

    A veno starts making real money at 63, when solo TT becomes possible.
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2009
    -3% is useless by itself. i had 2 rings from 88-95 that i always had on:

    -3%, -3%, -3% chant ring, and a +2% crit, +3 vit ring. I also had the frostwalk hat for -3% chant, and my 90 green quoit had -3% chant. my 90 gold sleeves had -6%. -21% for pk, but whenever I killed mobs I had a -6% belt and necklace, which gave me -33%.

    now i have -24% without the accessories, because i got both of my cv rings. will go to -27% when i get my -6% weapon, and then -30% when i get to 99
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Getting rings/belts/necklaces because they have 3% is a stupid idea, there's always a better alternative. But If you have some other channeling gear, like 77 sleeves, certain weapons or other -6% channeling gear, -3% can help making it noticable.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Oichii - Dreamweaver
    Oichii - Dreamweaver Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm a lvl 48 veno and I want to heal faster... I have the highest pet heal I can for my level and -6% chan on my gear, but I still can't seem to heal my pet fast enough to solo qingzi. Any tips? Maybe I should have a Wheel of Fate....?

    Wait till you are Lv 55 to take on Quinzhi. I took him on at Lv 55 easily With Magmite, With a Pure Mag Build and a crappy NPC Wpn. With Herc, Hmph, Probably possible at 25 b:shocked

    Anyways, Why would you want to farm FB29 ? Its got the crappiest drop rate compared to other FBs. Wait till you are Lv 60 - 70 and go farm FB39 & 49, I can say those 2 FBs have a comparatively higher drops than 29, mainly 39 b:dirty I think I made like 10 3*s a day and a mold every 3 - 5 Days at Lv 60s there.

    FB39, FB59, FB79 are the best FBs to go FB Hunting =) Rest just suck balls and drops aren't so good all of the time.
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    tried veno....too boring for me just cant handle the idea of not doing nothing and not having to think to kill..that and i dont really have time to get bored.
    Is Back once more.

    sorry med school needs some time.