lvl 75 < gets pwned by lvl 70 in duel

kesley
kesley Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2009 in Cleric
b:angry < cant beat a cleric 5 lvls below me

reasons:
LA with flawless shards in
has Sakya .. b:surrender
amps me with genie
crits at me like crazy

b:shedtear


V
> arcane with only averages in
> TT70
> doesnt use my genie O.O < no stam
> b:cry looks like im gnna need to cash shop
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  • Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    xD as long as u can take 1 hit from him and not die u can do fine

    first sleep him if u get slept before then sleep him> heal> debuff>double spark and use thunder then a cyclone should end his life also try starting with plumshell on so he wont hit u any crapb:laugh but ur chances are not high due to ur crappy items b:chuckle
  • Magiere - Dreamweaver
    Magiere - Dreamweaver Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Lmao, arcane should pwn a LA cleric.
    Plume shell up, then use cyclone + wield thunder + cyclone and he is dead before he could even scratch you...since you have the higher magic defense.
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  • kesley
    kesley Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands wrote: »
    xD as long as u can take 1 hit from him and not die u can do fine

    first sleep him if u get slept before then sleep him> heal> debuff>double spark and use thunder then a cyclone should end his life also try starting with plumshell on so he wont hit u any crapb:laugh but ur chances are not high due to ur crappy items b:chuckle

    b:surrender plume shell drains my mana like crazy due to her crit hits
  • kesley
    kesley Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Magiere - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Lmao, arcane should pwn a LA cleric.
    Plume shell up, then use cyclone + wield thunder + cyclone and he is dead before he could even scratch you...since you have the higher magic defense.

    b:bye helloo she uses plume shot and razor feathers < a.k.a phys damage. b:angry and yea as i have said plume shell drains my mana like crazy due to her crit hits
  • Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    kesley wrote: »
    b:bye helloo she uses plume shot and razor feathers < a.k.a phys damage. b:angry and yea as i have said plume shell drains my mana like crazy due to her crit hits

    YOU GOT SLEEP RIGHT???? use it then if u sleep her first its pretty much end of duel she can go down in 2 shots and use plumshell before u do anything just incase then if u get slept u got plumshell on just tank 2 hits u will only lose like.... 500 mana?? prob less then sleep HER and its ur win b:dirty arcane almost never loses to la unless the La crits and arcane shell is off which is not common unless ur a lewbie clericb:surrender
  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    b:angry i do i do.. idk what happened, i might have to find her and reduel her again
    b:surrender she gottttt heaps of hp tho for a cleric,.. with all flawless HP shards in

    and oh btwwwwww i cant get on my internet yet b:cry my thingy card burnt out or something >:o

    b:victory just tell destiny i said hi <3
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Rainbow Blessing, you crit as well. And their crit from level 55-75 is only 3 more than other builds. With crit rings and other gear, it's not that impressive a lead. And if you had leveled even one craft skill, stamina on genie isn't a problem.

    Sleep first means you're admitting failure. Get some damage on them, the sleep to prep. Debuff them, and finish with Tempest spike. Them asleep during your long cast time is more useful than wasting the sleep just to wake them up with your first damage skill. Seriously wonder if people who suggest sleep first have ever actually done PvP as a cleric.
    Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura

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  • Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Chiichan - Harshlands wrote: »
    b:angry i do i do.. idk what happened, i might have to find her and reduel her again
    b:surrender she gottttt heaps of hp tho for a cleric,.. with all flawless HP shards in

    and oh btwwwwww i cant get on my internet yet b:cry my thingy card burnt out or something >:o

    b:victory just tell destiny i said hi <3

    xD didnt know it was u lol anyway why dont u shard ur gear with phy stones xD am going to reset to hybrid vit and shard gear with phy stone.
  • Ewings - Heavens Tear
    Ewings - Heavens Tear Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Just get pdef and decent dmg and u can literally bore any cleric to death with Ironheart stalemate. La does have its weakness in magicdef but makes up for it with pdef, so while ull be busy hitting it with magic it will be plume shotting u to oblivion. So here you have to exploit ur strength, Superior heals and larger mana pool in a duel.
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  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands wrote: »
    xD didnt know it was u lol anyway why dont u shard ur gear with phy stones xD am going to reset to hybrid vit and shard gear with phy stone.

    b:victory it is meh <3

    xd and fo thosee who replied b:laugh this topic ends right here b:victory
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Ewings - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Just get pdef and decent dmg and u can literally bore any cleric to death with Ironheart stalemate. La does have its weakness in magicdef but makes up for it with pdef, so while ull be busy hitting it with magic it will be plume shotting u to oblivion. So here you have to exploit ur strength, Superior heals and larger mana pool in a duel.

    For PK or actual PvP, that might work. But duels do not allow charms to tick, so you have to rely on mana pots or lose all your mana and be unable to heal or have plume shell reduce mana. Honestly, I don't see the point in worrying about losing or even fighting duels.

    Also, just killed a cleric in cube room 34. They did as I advised against, and slept me right away. As they debuffed my ele def and sparked, I just started spamming my Dew and Alter Marrow Magical. After that, just beat the heck out of him with fists while weapon swapping for lots of stuns. He died, never had a chance. If they had done a 2 skill cast remove with Cyclone followed by sleep, then gone into debuff and try for spike attempt, they might have actually succeeded since they had surprise advantage. Sleep in the beginning of a fight is very, very amateur and not at all a good idea. Unless you plan on running right after.
    Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura

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  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    For PK or actual PvP, that might work. But duels do not allow charms to tick, so you have to rely on mana pots or lose all your mana and be unable to heal or have plume shell reduce mana. Honestly, I don't see the point in worrying about losing or even fighting duels.

    Also, just killed a cleric in cube room 34. They did as I advised against, and slept me right away. As they debuffed my ele def and sparked, I just started spamming my Dew and Alter Marrow Magical. After that, just beat the heck out of him with fists while weapon swapping for lots of stuns. He died, never had a chance. If they had done a 2 skill cast remove with Cyclone followed by sleep, then gone into debuff and try for spike attempt, they might have actually succeeded since they had surprise advantage. Sleep in the beginning of a fight is very, very amateur and not at all a good idea. Unless you plan on running right after.

    b:victory i kno right PvP and TW < real thing xd

    and btw charms do tick after the duel if u have like 50% or 75% left of ur hp/mp depnding on ur charm

    they do tick after but NOT DURING xd
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Chiichan - Harshlands wrote: »
    b:victory i kno right PvP and TW < real thing xd

    and btw charms do tick after the duel if u have like 50% or 75% left of ur hp/mp depnding on ur charm

    they do tick after but NOT DURING xd

    As i told ya in faction chat, the problem is on: she uses mana pots, you don't. She **** you mana pool draining through you plume shell. When you have finished MP you can't attack and she can 2shot you.

    The reason why her MP lasts much more than yours are prolly cause you use magical hits or more probably cause she uses mana potions.

    Just use mana potions to stand plume shell and your used skills. Let her sleep you first, she will probably doublespark and then use razor. Spam sleep till you can cast it (sleeping her you will make her sparking pretty useless since she just benefitted it with her opening hit), elemental seal, tempest (since you have it at a good level, personally, you know, i would prefer doublesparking-wield thunder, keeping then increased m.atk for cyclone/further nukes or also to improve eventually healing). Until you MP pot yourself plume shell will keep you alive. She hasn't a so good way to defend from you metal nukes being LA.


    I tell this being a LA build. And i **** arcane clerics in duel just because they play really badb:surrender
  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Lenyel - Harshlands wrote: »
    As i told ya in faction chat, the problem is on: she uses mana pots, you don't. She **** you mana pool draining through you plume shell. When you have finished MP you can't attack and she can 2shot you.

    The reason why her MP lasts much more than yours are prolly cause you use magical hits or more probably cause she uses mana potions.

    Just use mana potions to stand plume shell and your used skills. Let her sleep you first, she will probably doublespark and then use razor. Spam sleep till you can cast it (sleeping her you will make her sparking pretty useless since she just benefitted it with her opening hit), elemental seal, tempest (since you have it at a good level, personally, you know, i would prefer doublesparking-wield thunder, keeping then increased m.atk for cyclone/further nukes or also to improve eventually healing). Until you MP pot yourself plume shell will keep you alive. She hasn't a so good way to defend from you metal nukes being LA.


    I tell this being a LA build. And i **** arcane clerics in duel just because they play really badb:surrender

    b:sad our duel lasted like 5 min. becuz both of us were stacking.. and then i was like b:angry wtf i ran out of mana before she did ... b:cry she did prolly use mana pots
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    since when do duels matter?
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    since when do duels matter?

    Since when chii gets sad if she loses xD
  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    since when do duels matter?

    b:bye since i said so b:laugh
  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Lenyel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Since when chii gets sad if she loses xD

    so true b:cute
  • Inias - Heavens Tear
    Inias - Heavens Tear Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lame topic is lame

    LA cleric is gonna PWN u in duel yes
    LA cleric is better in TW too cuz he will get killed less and will kill more ppl then you will


    but then again
    LA cleric won't get into any TT runs FB runs rebirths etc because his heals s*ck balls (LA => gets their power back out of crits /arcane = average good hits)
    so knowing heals don't crit => LA clerics heals s*ck balls so they're only good in PVP
    nobody want's em in PVE :)
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  • Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Inias - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lame topic is lame

    LA cleric is gonna PWN u in duel yes
    LA cleric is better in TW too cuz he will get killed less and will kill more ppl then you will


    but then again
    LA cleric won't get into any TT runs FB runs rebirths etc because his heals s*ck balls (LA => gets their power back out of crits /arcane = average good hits)
    so knowing heals don't crit => LA clerics heals s*ck balls so they're only good in PVP
    nobody want's em in PVE :)

    LOL are u kiddin.... first of all la cleric take **** load of dmg from metal skills and also ok dmg from plumshot >.> they uusaly go down 2 shot after sleep... pop plumshell in pk and its GG for la unless they are fighting a pure int

    btw thats comin from an la user ^^
  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands wrote: »
    LOL are u kiddin.... first of all la cleric take **** load of dmg from metal skills and also ok dmg from plumshot >.> they uusaly go down 2 shot after sleep... pop plumshell in pk and its GG for la unless they are fighting a pure int

    btw thats comin from an la user ^^

    b:dirty wtf b:dirty
  • norjakoul
    norjakoul Posts: 1
    edited September 2009
    I beated alot of lvl 70's cleric when i m lvl 55 now i m lvl 66
    just use plume shot on cleric and sleep u will 3 shot them max
    clerics easy to kill acrane builds and easy to tank barb and bm hits
  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    norjakoul wrote: »
    I beated alot of lvl 70's cleric when i m lvl 55 now i m lvl 66
    just use plume shot on cleric and sleep u will 3 shot them max
    clerics easy to kill acrane builds and easy to tank barb and bm hits

    b:bye hello LA cleric.. why wud i plume shot b:bye
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Inias - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lame topic is lame

    LA cleric is gonna PWN u in duel yes
    LA cleric is better in TW too cuz he will get killed less and will kill more ppl then you will


    but then again
    LA cleric won't get into any TT runs FB runs rebirths etc because his heals s*ck balls (LA => gets their power back out of crits /arcane = average good hits)
    so knowing heals don't crit => LA clerics heals s*ck balls so they're only good in PVP
    nobody want's em in PVE :)

    Quote entirely what said about PvP.

    I'm LA. When i have time i do up to 3 TT run for day. I have started GV gamma when i was 74: none would have brought a lvl 74 arcane cleric, but for a LA is sufficient because of increased resistance and survivability. My honest opinion is that is better a living healer that heals a slighty less than a dead one. Result: under 80 arcane clerics are out of rebirth gamma.

    FB... Every time i see one is sufficient to pm "cleric 7x for FB" and everyone would take me. Never had problems in keeping ppl alive.

    I'm sorry but instead what your being lvl 96 would suggest about you, you are just one of those small arcane clerics that prolly have never tried LA and that prolly have no idea of how much m.atk decreases (and how much small heals are less powerful), and that judges just talking on what they have heard about other builds. b:bye


    Edit: sorry for my english b:cry
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands wrote: »
    LOL are u kiddin.... first of all la cleric take **** load of dmg from metal skills and also ok dmg from plumshot >.> they uusaly go down 2 shot after sleep... pop plumshell in pk and its GG for la unless they are fighting a pure int

    btw thats comin from an la user ^^

    If an arcane sleep first and you have sparks ready, if you are very good in timing your skills you still have very nice chances :)
  • Chiichan - Harshlands
    Chiichan - Harshlands Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Lenyel b:dirty rez me im in wraith gate with 92% b:sadb:sad damn mobs kept paralyzing me when i entered b:cry then dead..
  • Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Lenyel - Harshlands wrote: »
    If an arcane sleep first and you have sparks ready, if you are very good in timing your skills you still have very nice chances :)

    so wat u going to do if the arcane is vit build with more hp then u and plumshell on?b:dirty ur metal dmg wont hit as much as he will so the winner is obviouse unless he is a cleric who never pked in his lifeb:laugh
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands wrote: »
    so wat u going to do if the arcane is vit build with more hp then u and plumshell on?b:dirty ur metal dmg wont hit as much as he will so the winner is obviouse unless he is a cleric who never pked in his lifeb:laugh

    Lately i am having many pvp against arcane cleric like "we fight/heal/spark/sleep for 5 min, **** both hp charm and hp pots. they we jjust say good bye".

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