Lvl 90 Demon Barb - Stats

SteelStar - Heavens Tear
SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Barbarian
This is my plan for when I hit lvl 90 -
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=d433a96153874eea
Any advice/input, Besides get a Ring of Mastadon's Strength?

EDIT: Thanks for all of your input, I want MORE though =P!
EDIT: YAY! LVL 90!
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8066/55269807.jpg
I need to change my axes, and make my armor +5 but pretty much the same.
It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2009
    bacon axes

    you chose to have the worst hh90 green axes willingly?

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14829
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14830
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/8287

    if you don't have 1 of those, just hang your axes up and use a sword
  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    prof wrote: »
    bacon axes

    you chose to have the worst hh90 green axes willingly?

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14829
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14830
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/8287

    if you don't have 1 of those, just hang your axes up and use a sword

    I see a fail in the last one, calamitys arent good for 90+, damage is a bit low, and the only way to deal a good damage is with zerk but you need to sacrifice HP for that. Now the level 90 zerk axe is much away better, even without the zerk the damage output is awensome.
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  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Any advice/input, Besides get a Ring of Mastadon's Strength?

    dont get one of those. they come with 2 add-ons when u make them, and there is only a 33.33% chance for an individual add-on to be on it when u make it. i wouldnt gamble on the first one i make having the crit i want.
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2009
    I see a fail in the last one, calamitys arent good for 90+, damage is a bit low, and the only way to deal a good damage is with zerk but you need to sacrifice HP for that. Now the level 90 zerk axe is much away better, even without the zerk the damage output is awensome.
    your attacks tickle and a zerk is the only way to make it not. besides, you wont be killing anything without perdition. using lower axes allows more con to make perdition better.
    dont get one of those. they come with 2 add-ons when u make them, and there is only a 33.33% chance for an individual add-on to be on it when u make it. i wouldnt gamble on the first one i make having the crit i want.
    false. it has all 3 mods, pwdatabase is wrong. even then, they're not worth making. get 2 misty forest rings and use them until 95 when you make your cv rings.
  • Gorsin - Dreamweaver
    Gorsin - Dreamweaver Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    less vit, more str, and get either star axes or zerk axes. if you
    got 80 dex ditch then misty get a 2nd heavenly



    you dont need misty forest rings, you've got blood bath. with 80 dex your acc should be 750+ so with bb thats 2k+ (more then enough imo)
  • Gorsin - Dreamweaver
    Gorsin - Dreamweaver Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    prof wrote: »
    your attacks tickle and a zerk is the only way to make it not. besides, you wont be killing anything without perdition. using lower axes allows more con to make perdition better.


    false. it has all 3 mods, pwdatabase is wrong. even then, they're not worth making. get 2 misty forest rings and use them until 95 when you make your cv rings.

    ive got a bit more str and my damge doesent tickle. ive jus
    t come to realise my class is best suited for killing arcane and light armor b:surrender


    arma isnt as good as everyone spouts out. its good but horrible vs heavy. and even with 10k in human (9k with bb) and lvl10 arma, you will 1 shot alot of arcane/light armor
  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I see a fail in the last one, calamitys arent good for 90+, damage is a bit low, and the only way to deal a good damage is with zerk but you need to sacrifice HP for that. Now the level 90 zerk axe is much away better, even without the zerk the damage output is awensome.

    Pretty sure I still use XS because I'm full vit Demon wb and I'm pretty sure I have killed barbs with more hp and better gear than you.

    XS are more than adequate if you refine them properly.

    Hell I've perditioned other 9x wb for more than your hp you showed in your link.



    arma isnt as good as everyone spouts out. its good but horrible vs heavy. and even with 10k in human (9k with bb) and lvl10 arma, you will 1 shot alot of arcane/light armor

    You're doing it wrong. You have low hp that is why perditon sucks for you against other heavies.
    Half health perdition is the easiest way I've found to kill 9x wrs just use your 79 anti-stun skill beforehand
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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Pretty sure I still use XS because I'm full vit Demon wb and I'm pretty sure I have killed barbs with more hp and better gear than you.

    XS are more than adequate if you refine them properly.

    Hell I've perditioned other 9x wb for more than your hp you showed in your link.




    You're doing it wrong. You have low hp that is why perditon sucks for you against other heavies.
    Half health perdition is the easiest way I've found to kill 9x wrs just use your 79 anti-stun skill beforehand
    How much HP are you pushing?
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
    My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • Lycanthar - Sanctuary
    Lycanthar - Sanctuary Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    74 dex... so random.

    60 or 80, don't be lazy!
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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    74 dex... so random.

    60 or 80, don't be lazy!
    74 actual dex with +6 dex from armor = 80 dex =P
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
    My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    prof wrote: »
    bacon axes

    you chose to have the worst hh90 green axes willingly?

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14829
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14830
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/8287

    if you don't have 1 of those, just hang your axes up and use a sword
    I got a great deal on them so I thought I would use, also from my understanding demon barbs are all about crits. This being said whats wrong with my axes? A lot of HP + 1% crit. Then again maybe i'm under the wrong impression.
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
    My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    How much HP are you pushing?

    23k

    10 chars >_>
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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    23k
    Nice! *Kind of jealous =P*
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
    My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • Gorsin - Dreamweaver
    Gorsin - Dreamweaver Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Pretty sure I still use XS because I'm full vit Demon wb and I'm pretty sure I have killed barbs with more hp and better gear than you.

    XS are more than adequate if you refine them properly.

    Hell I've perditioned other 9x wb for more than your hp you showed in your link.




    You're doing it wrong. You have low hp that is why perditon sucks for you against other heavies.
    Half health perdition is the easiest way I've found to kill 9x wrs just use your 79 anti-stun skill beforehand


    maybe :( since lvl81 ive been pure str ( was vit build beforehand) so the only thing that changed my hp was my gear. though i guess its a trade-off. i splatter arcane and LA easily without arma. and ive only got 10.2k h in human 9k with bloodbath b:surrender. though you're making me want to switch it up and say **** crit, throw all my dex and crit rings into misty and go that route. who knows! im not even sure what im doing right now, lol.
  • Untamedchaos - Sanctuary
    Untamedchaos - Sanctuary Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    prof wrote: »
    bacon axes

    you chose to have the worst TT90 green axes willingly?

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14829
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14830
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/8287

    if you don't have 1 of those, just hang your axes up and use a sword

    Fixed that up for ya bud, this is PWI not some other **** version of it
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  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    maybe :( since lvl81 ive been pure str ( was vit build beforehand) so the only thing that changed my hp was my gear. though i guess its a trade-off. i splatter arcane and LA easily without arma. and ive only got 10.2k h in human 9k with bloodbath b:surrender. though you're making me want to switch it up and say **** crit, throw all my dex and crit rings into misty and go that route. who knows! im not even sure what im doing right now, lol.

    Your build isn't terrible for killing other heavies or any other class for that matter but yours I feel involves more work since you have to keep them still and stay un movement debuffed so you can beat their hiero.

    However with that said having lower hp also comes with the downfall of greatly hindering your survivability in mass pk or tw if you're ever focus fired, also you're more susceptible to other classes getting a crit or a high end ulti to bypass your heiro (primarily mages)

    You will undoubtedly crit more than me (although I've gained 4% through hell shape shifting intensity and the 95 crit boots) But the SSI is only applied in tiger form. You also probably have quite a bit more patk I would imagine. Mine is only 5.7k top end. I just am more about the one shot than the constant damage.
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  • Gorsin - Dreamweaver
    Gorsin - Dreamweaver Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Your build isn't terrible for killing other heavies or any other class for that matter but yours I feel involves more work since you have to keep them still and stay un movement debuffed so you can beat their hiero.

    However with that said having lower hp also comes with the downfall of greatly hindering your survivability in mass pk or tw if you're ever focus fired, also you're more susceptible to other classes getting a crit or a high end ulti to bypass your heiro (primarily mages)

    You will undoubtedly crit more than me (although I've gained 4% through hell shape shifting intensity and the 95 crit boots) But the SSI is only applied in tiger form. You also probably have quite a bit more patk I would imagine. Mine is only 5.7k top end. I just am more about the one shot than the constant damage.

    pretty much yeah. ive come to accept all of those flaws, lol. but i dunno, i may restat later on. like you said, the only demon skills i have so far is garrote and true form(new server no books). but yeah once i get my crit passives and onslaught, and a number of other skills. i may switch it up. but for 1v1 with arcane and leather i destroy pretty much anything, most wizzy here arent that skilled to kite. archers are pure dex so no vit to survive.

    and yeah, my phys attack right now is 4011-7029 (only lvl8 str buff though)

    my crit is 9% @75 dex, at 92 i am 99% sure im going 5 dex to have 40 more acc and 1% crit.
  • Untamedchaos - Sanctuary
    Untamedchaos - Sanctuary Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Atm I have 10k hp in human form, 1.1k accuracy base, 8% crit, and 3k-5.8k phys attack. Would anyone say thats pretty good? xD I destroy any class that doesn't use Heavy Armor
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  • Umeru - Heavens Tear
    Umeru - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    @ destroyer tokyo, sounds nice with your HP, but doesn't amaze me because you didn't show screenshot b:chuckle.
    And on top of that, relying on only berserk (especially from outdated axe) and perdition is a bad idea imo.

    Sure, it may 1 shot light / arcane users, i saw. But against heavy, it sucks. I wanted to see a barb do perdition on me in a duel (I don't like PVP, I just test out things) and he was almost LVL70 and yes, a PKer type (red name), he done about 1.6k (rounded) damage to me and I was in human form (4.2k HP - 1.6k HP = 2.6k HP) that sounds. Judging from the maths, perdition is only good for a FINAL attack at the right timing. Also, berserk may be a good PVP weapon, but not to rely on all the time. At worst, outdated gears would fail you.

    And I was pretty tough to beat in duels, I had my ways of testing, not only they take long to take me down, but I was giving them punishment as well (updated skills to the max ftw b:cute). I did lose to a BM, due to cleric buffs on her disposal as well and I didn't get any haha. She kept me stunned, I actually almost beaten her with normal attacks alone when she was down to lower than half HP (ran out of MP... And her HP/MP regen buff were strong I think, unless she used MP pots so she kept using skills).

    I don't have the screenies to back up on my statement, and no I don't care about PVP or duels, because of what you see on my sig.
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  • Saveless - Harshlands
    Saveless - Harshlands Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I see a fail in the last one, calamitys arent good for 90+, damage is a bit low, and the only way to deal a good damage is with zerk but you need to sacrifice HP for that. Now the level 90 zerk axe is much away better, even without the zerk the damage output is awensome.

    I use to use XS before I quit at 9x. Only +4'ed with 2 flawless garnets in it (Was give to me for free, so yeah....lawl @ garnet). Was too lazy to re-shard. And honestly, I still got compliments from many for my damage...with or without zerk.
  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    @ destroyer tokyo, sounds nice with your HP, but doesn't amaze me because you didn't show screenshot b:chuckle.
    And on top of that, relying on only berserk (especially from outdated axe) and perdition is a bad idea imo.

    Sure, it may 1 shot light / arcane users, i saw. But against heavy, it sucks. I wanted to see a barb do perdition on me in a duel (I don't like PVP, I just test out things) and he was almost LVL70 and yes, a PKer type (red name), he done about 1.6k (rounded) damage to me and I was in human form (4.2k HP - 1.6k HP = 2.6k HP) that sounds. Judging from the maths, perdition is only good for a FINAL attack at the right timing. Also, berserk may be a good PVP weapon, but not to rely on all the time. At worst, outdated gears would fail you.

    And I was pretty tough to beat in duels, I had my ways of testing, not only they take long to take me down, but I was giving them punishment as well (updated skills to the max ftw b:cute). I did lose to a BM, due to cleric buffs on her disposal as well and I didn't get any haha. She kept me stunned, I actually almost beaten her with normal attacks alone when she was down to lower than half HP (ran out of MP... And her HP/MP regen buff were strong I think, unless she used MP pots so she kept using skills).

    I don't have the screenies to back up on my statement, and no I don't care about PVP or duels, because of what you see on my sig.

    Duels =/= pk lol. I can one shot wbs my own level with a berserk crit perdition and My regular perdtiion drops most everything robe or la without zerk. Zerk is the overkill for the big numbers it isn't something I rely on.

    I did the whole your hp can't be that high bit before on LC forums, if you want me to prove it take 5 minutes to make a LC account and pt me.

    I don't think you quite understand the logistics of why XS work better than any other weapon for high hp wbs who abuse perdition.

    If you want to see some of my dmg logs on every class including other heavies it's posted somewhere in this Barbarian section.
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited September 2009
    I got a great deal on them so I thought I would use, also from my understanding demon barbs are all about crits. This being said whats wrong with my axes? A lot of HP + 1% crit. Then again maybe i'm under the wrong impression.

    dark wb doesn't stack crit, and this is why:
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/9578
  • Paigrande - Harshlands
    Paigrande - Harshlands Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sage barbs ftwb:victory even though im sage barb I still kill alot since i dont relay on any of my skills apart from perdition to kill other opponents xD But star axes would b better then beacon axes lol
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  • Xnastyx - Lost City
    Xnastyx - Lost City Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    b:laugh dt changed so much.ust to do more then 1 skill lol.Calamities r only good 9X+ if u wanna base urself off the one shot. What is it 212 requirement str for calamites, and 227 for hh90 gear.-hints- Alot of extra attribute points u can dump in vit.

    p.s. orbs 2 over over priced for me to refine and get my expected hp....b:sad
  • Umeru - Heavens Tear
    Umeru - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Duels =/= pk lol. I can one shot wbs my own level with a berserk crit perdition and My regular perdtiion drops most everything robe or la without zerk. Zerk is the overkill for the big numbers it isn't something I rely on.

    I did the whole your hp can't be that high bit before on LC forums, if you want me to prove it take 5 minutes to make a LC account and pt me.

    I don't think you quite understand the logistics of why XS work better than any other weapon for high hp wbs who abuse perdition.

    If you want to see some of my dmg logs on every class including other heavies it's posted somewhere in this Barbarian section.

    I am not too sure about duels =/= PK mode (and don't care about PK, duel b:chuckle). But what I bold is 100% hard to believe you 1 shotted a wb, though you are a demon barb, and I saw damage log, and wasn't that a squishy person or barb using LA (or AA LOL?) or your equipment refined nicely and the others not so much? Just saying.

    Why I don't believe you did 1 shot wbs around your level? HA armors are best for physical defense. I even actually warded a barb almost 70. his perdition didn't hit me by half and I was like almost 30 LVLs lower than him (and yes, my gears are refined, by like +1-+3 lol)... Maybe I do believe you with your HP. But perdition vs. HA build doesn't fit.
    Even if that guy critted me, its still not a one shot... However he did one shot a veno in the duel... which did more damage to her. So perdition is pretty much useless against HA, you just lose more HP than the other (hunch why people use charms o.o).

    Maybe I don't understand too much about zerk or XS, I would never even get that to use ^^.

    I saw damage log though, neat damage.

    I'll see your HP later on then, see you on.
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  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    All 9x heavies from Lost City.
    No Dragons were included this is purely just me and my own debuffs

    Some wb's some Bms.

    Now mind you wrs self buffed have more def than a human form wb does self buffed.
    I put the level besides the players I knew for certain.

    I'm not saying it happens every time, but just that it can be done.

    WB ixw4mu.jpg
    WR 2uj1d78.jpg
    WRk54tw0.jpg
    WR(98) 30tjw1v.jpg
    WB(99) mtm7gn.jpg
    WR 243f7g4.jpg
    9x WB
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  • Umeru - Heavens Tear
    Umeru - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    All 9x heavies from Lost City.
    No Dragons were included this is purely just me and my own debuffs

    Some wb's some Bms.

    Now mind you wrs self buffed have more def than a human form wb does self buffed.
    I put the level besides the players I knew for certain.

    I'm not saying it happens every time, but just that it can be done.

    WB ixw4mu.jpg
    WR 2uj1d78.jpg
    WRk54tw0.jpg
    WR(98) 30tjw1v.jpg
    WB(99) mtm7gn.jpg
    WR 243f7g4.jpg

    Seems accurate enough b:shocked rounded to 14k DMG at most. Yeah, I think I'll see your HP in a half a day later if your on. That barb must of had bad damage then on me then b:surrender
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  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    like tokyo said. go vit. min str for axes. 80 dex is what i recommend. then full vit

    im only at 15.5k hp in human, and 18.5k in tiger (i dont cs) and my damage is completely OP...

    OO.jpg
    Esemeli = 99 bm
    Leonardo = 90 bm
    OnexLove = 99 veno
    munarc = 96 archer

    *yes these are my guildies*

    OOdamage.jpg
    szanti: level 100 veno

    another guildie

    http://s410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/hellx12/?action=view&current=damage2.jpg
    QueenBii: level 99 archer buffed

    http://s410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/hellx12/?action=view&current=Owned.jpg
    ty: level 100 wizad with 12k pdef...


    http://s410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/hellx12/?action=view&current=pwnedagain.jpg
    FiendishKit: level 90 veno


    http://s410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/hellx12/?action=view&current=pwned.jpg
    KoRaNubis level 96 ish cleric FULLY buffed.


    FYI. none of these are flames. most arent even zerk + crits.
    devour + ToP + armageddon + zerk/crit. its all it takes
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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    like tokyo said. go vit. min str for axes. 80 dex is what i recommend. then full vit

    im only at 15.5k hp in human, and 18.5k in tiger (i dont cs) and my damage is completely OP...

    That actually was my plan. (If you look at the link in my first post =P)
    Thanks for the input/advice.
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
    My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Seems accurate enough b:shocked rounded to 14k DMG at most. Yeah, I think I'll see your HP in a half a day later if your on. That barb must of had bad damage then on me then b:surrender

    Well, chances are it's 2 things....

    A) You said the wb was 7x... You cannot even purchase lvl 10 Perdition until I think 86? So he was missing 4-6 levels of that skill.... which is quite a huge chunk of damage.

    B) Because of my vit build I have more hp than most wbs do in tiger I mean hitting someone with 19k hp in human let along 28k with a TOP Perdition coupled with Extreme Poison (20% dmg increase) is going to hurt anything.
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