Wich pet is better?
fatestayjedi
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Crystalline Magmite or Volcanic Magmite?
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I use volcanic ^^ hehe....as for which is better.....1 gets 3 skills while the other only gets 2...also one starts at a lower level so it's stats are slightly better as it levels
I'm just not sure which is which lol. I know my volcanic has 3 skills though0 -
Doesnt really matter much. They are both pretty similar. Crystaline gets lvl 2 bash, and lvl 1 sandblow, while volcanic gets lvl 1 bash, tough (I think) and sandblow.I was early taught to work as well as play,
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As a rule of thumb the lowest level pet in its class turns out to be the strongest stat wise.
However, for money savers the higher levels usually come with higher level skills.0 -
Higher level starters tend to be faster. The stats for ones that are close are often negligible especially for disposable pets such as magmites.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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I'm using Crystaline Mag not Volcanic Mag coz:
Crystaline Mag stats are better if u lv it the same as volcanic mag - lowest lv pet of that class always wins stats wise.
Volcanic Mag comes with Toughness skill. All pet skills can be selected at pet window using the mouse right click. With Volcanic Mag u can select 3 skills instead of Crystaline Mag's 2 skills.
Personally I only use my crystaline mag's 2 skills as the cooldown timer for 1 skills always co-insides with the other so it's spamable.
1 thing to take note. All pets comes with 4 pet skill slots (i think). U can go to the pet manager to "forget pet skills" or "learn pet skills". In other words, if u don't like Volcanic Mag's TOUGHNESS skill, u can remove it and chose another. How that is done exactly, i do not know.
What is most important is to look at the pet's stat chart. The magmites class have greater phy and mag defence and better attack. If this fits what u want in your pet, then start with crystaline mag. Only go for Volcanic mag if u think u need the extra skill - Toughness.
*This applies to other pet classes as well
*I love my petite sawfly [u can get it at lv 8]0 -
slimebubble wrote: »I'm using Crystaline Mag not Volcanic Mag coz:
Crystaline Mag stats are better if u lv it the same as volcanic mag - lowest lv pet of that class always wins stats wise.
How many hits per kill does it save you on the average mob combined with hit interval (how much time does it save)? -*probably none! What can a Crystalline tank that a Volcanic Mag can't. -*probably nothing! Does it save you on the frequency of heals? -*not likely. What's their difference in speed? -*.1m/s Which one is faster? -*Volcanic Magmite. Which one saves you from skills cost? -*Volcanic Magmite.Volcanic Mag comes with Toughness skill. All pet skills can be selected at pet window using the mouse right click. With Volcanic Mag u can select 3 skills instead of Crystaline Mag's 2 skills.
Right clicking sets it to auto. Left clicking will activate the skill.1 thing to take note. All pets comes with 4 pet skill slots (i think). U can go to the pet manager to "forget pet skills" or "learn pet skills". In other words, if u don't like Volcanic Mag's TOUGHNESS skill, u can remove it and chose another. How that is done exactly, i do not know.
A very expensive practice and wasteful on disposable pets like Magmites/ Sawflies.What is most important is to look at the pet's stat chart. The magmites class have greater phy and mag defence and better attack.
-Than? There are many pets with better mag def, and a Scorpion out damages them.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
The difference in short are 100k and a few statpoints.
The Crystalline Magmite comes on level 17, with the skills:
Bash (2) and Sandblow (1).
The Volcanic Magmite comes on level 18, with the skills:
Bash (1), Sandblow (1) and Tough (1).
If you want the Pets to have equal skills, that would cost you:
300 k to get tough for the Crystalline Magmite and
200 k to get Bash to level 2 for the Volcanic Magmite.
So the Volcanic would be 100 k cheaper.
As for the stats:
Since the Crystalline comes on level 17, its stats will turn out a little better,
than that of the Volcanic caught on 18, though it's got a slightly lower speed.
On level 90 that difference would be:
(Crystalline/Volcanic)
HP: 2934 / 2931
P-Def: 8792 / 8782
M-Def: 5861 / 5855
Atk: 3240 / 3234
Acc: 1354 / 1352
Eva: 1003 / 1002
Atk.Sp: 0.6 / 0.6
m/s: 6.2 / 6.3
Phew, I guess thats everything that can be said about these two. b:pleased
Now pick your poison.
(Stats taken from Ecatomb)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Venofficial - Dreamweaver wrote: »As a rule of thumb the lowest level pet in its class turns out to be the strongest stat wise.
However, for money savers the higher levels usually come with higher level skills.
This is true but I find the Togirns lvl faster as i just a C-Mag to 42 from 17.I would say if you are going up vs a a timer use a Torgirn.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »This is true but I find the Togirns lvl faster as i just a C-Mag to 42 from 17.I would say if you are going up vs a a timer use a Torgirn.
I'm not really sure what you mean with that.
If you get Magmite when you're already level 42, of course a
Torgirn Puppet (starting level 29) or a Torgirn Brave (starting level 32)
will become lvl 42 quicker than a C or V Magmite.
But who gets his/her first Magmite on level 42?
If you get a Crystalline oder Volcanic Magmite when you're around level 20,
it will be level 42 just as quick as you are.
Aside from that, the xp needed for one pet level is the same for any pet.
So for example, getting a C Magmite from level 32 to level 42 will take the
same amount of mobs of a certain level as getting a Torgirn Brave,
Sawfly, Tortoise or whatever pet to level 42.
The only differences really are the stats and the skills that come with
the pets caught at different levels.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Naquia - Dreamweaver wrote: »The difference in short are 100k and a few statpoints.
The Crystalline Magmite comes on level 17, with the skills:
Bash (2) and Sandblow (1).
The Volcanic Magmite comes on level 18, with the skills:
Bash (1), Sandblow (1) and Tough (1).
If you want the Pets to have equal skills, that would cost you:
300 k to get tough for the Crystalline Magmite and
200 k to get Bash to level 2 for the Volcanic Magmite.
So the Volcanic would be 100 k cheaper.
As for the stats:
Since the Crystalline comes on level 17, its stats will turn out a little better,
than that of the Volcanic caught on 18, though it's got a slightly lower speed.
On level 90 that difference would be:
(Crystalline/Volcanic)
HP: 2934 / 2931
P-Def: 8792 / 8782
M-Def: 5861 / 5855
Atk: 3240 / 3234
Acc: 1354 / 1352
Eva: 1003 / 1002
Atk.Sp: 0.6 / 0.6
m/s: 6.2 / 6.3
Phew, I guess thats everything that can be said about these two. b:pleased
Now pick your poison.
(Stats taken from Ecatomb)
I really love your answer
May I ask, can i chose to learn other pet skills for my crystaline magmite if i do not want TOUGHNESS?
If I have a volcanic Magmite and i want to UNLEARN toughness skill, will be be expensive?0 -
100k to forget a skill, the price of the skill tome (AH or Zoologist) plus spirit to learn a skill.0
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I really love your answer
May I ask, can i chose to learn other pet skills for my crystaline magmite if i do not want TOUGHNESS?
If I have a volcanic Magmite and i want to UNLEARN toughness skill, will be be expensive?
well chances are, you probably won't want to unlearn Toughness = 30% dmg reduction - you just can't find anything wrong with that0 -
Naquia - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm not really sure what you mean with that.
If you get Magmite when you're already level 42, of course a
Torgirn Puppet (starting level 29) or a Torgirn Brave (starting level 32)
will become lvl 42 quicker than a C or V Magmite.
But who gets his/her first Magmite on level 42?
If you get a Crystalline oder Volcanic Magmite when you're around level 20,
it will be level 42 just as quick as you are.
Aside from that, the xp needed for one pet level is the same for any pet.
So for example, getting a C Magmite from level 32 to level 42 will take the
same amount of mobs of a certain level as getting a Torgirn Brave,
Sawfly, Tortoise or whatever pet to level 42.
The only differences really are the stats and the skills that come with
the pets caught at different levels.
I have Torgirn Brave lvl 42 as well but it kills and moves faster than C-Mag.I find that C-Mag or just as durable.I would probably keep the C-Mag if I got a Herc and to use for grinding on normal mobs and keep the loyalty of the Herc. up.This when I get one 9719 Sof to go.
I was wondering if we upgrade the skills on golems will they be worth more?How much if so?Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
There doesn't seem to be much demand for resale of levelled pets.
Don't really know why not, I guess most veno's keep the pets they've levelled up themselves.0 -
Rares will resell at a higher level and for a higher price.0
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Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »There doesn't seem to be much demand for resale of levelled pets.
Don't really know why not, I guess most veno's keep the pets they've levelled up themselves.
This depends on the type, air/water pets can't be cubed. Land pets can, which detracts from their resale value.0 -
What do you do when you fineshed with a pet that has upgraded skills on it?You have no more room in your bag except the one spot it is taking up.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0
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You can unhatch it and stick it in the bank.
If you really need that bank slot, you can pass it on to younger veno's in your faction.
Which is actually kinda annoying, since they can't be THAT younger or they won't be able to use it. Would like some way to delevel a pet.
Other than that - I've only seen one trade request for a non-rare pet in all the time I've been playing. There just doesn't seem to be a market.
You could try tossing it into the auction house I guess, but I don't think anyone checks that section.0 -
Leveled Magmites and Petite Sawflies (~L60) can sell for some good coin. A lot of venos mistakenly think they made a huge mistake by not getting these disposable pets.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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Volcanic, its much stronger and it has more health my tabby plumdrop can own them tho >:D0
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Go drive your car.
Now get a 1 gallon jug of milk (4 liters for those on metric). Put it in the seat next to you. Go drive your car again.
Do you notice any difference in how the car handles due to the additional weight of the milk? No?
The milk makes a bigger difference in your car's handling than the stat difference between the Crystalline and Volcanic magmite. If you can't tell the difference between your car with and without the milk, then don't worry about the stat difference of the two magmites. Base your decision on the different starting skills.0 -
It depends on the car and the suspension.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0
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Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »Go drive your car.
Now get a 1 gallon jug of milk (4 liters for those on metric). Put it in the seat next to you. Go drive your car again.
Do you notice any difference in how the car handles due to the additional weight of the milk? No?
The milk makes a bigger difference in your car's handling than the stat difference between the Crystalline and Volcanic magmite. If you can't tell the difference between your car with and without the milk, then don't worry about the stat difference of the two magmites. Base your decision on the different starting skills.
Did you take into account the weight of the jug itself?Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
in answer of the original question
(gotta love that spelling)Wich pet is better?
the crystilline magmite is better, period
if you plan on getting a herc, you wont have any land pet for long, as you'll keep getting newer ones as they are available (since you need to save the money that would otherwise be spent upgrading the pet's skills) so worrying about "which is better" is a moot point
for the long-term magmite user, the crystilline offers better stats, and since you're going to be keeping it until endgame, you're going to be upgrading its skills/adding additional skills
so in effect, by getting a volcanic magmite and using it all the way to endgame, you're selling yourself short and using an inferior pet, because both magmites will have the same 4 skills maxed out at endgame, but the crystilline magmite will have better stats, and therefore be stronger (regardless of how small the difference is)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Hell hath no fury like Alexeno trying to prove his point" -Mizuoni0 -
ehm coz it sems like the c-mag will be the best in the end wish leads me to the question... where do you find the c-mag?0
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ehm coz it sems like the c-mag will be the best in the end wish leads me to the question... where do you find the c-mag?
cmags are scattered around Timberfield, which is North (and slightly East) of Etherblade
and btw, tweakz is a kiss-**** supporter of herc users, and will denounce all other pets in favor of hercs as a tank. don't let him fool you, many other pets work just as well as hercs for what you normally need pets for.The Cmag is useless in the end. Magmite at Lv.80+ = Fail
as far as your opinion goes.
i personally know many venos with cmags, vmags, and torgirn who do perfectly well endgame.
the ONLY things hercs enable you to do that you can't otherwise, is aoe-grind with ease, and solo your own bosses and TT[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »cmags are scattered around Timberfield, which is North (and slightly East) of Etherblade
and btw, tweakz is a kiss-**** supporter of herc users, and will denounce all other pets in favor of hercs as a tank. don't let him fool you, many other pets work just as well as hercs for what you normally need pets for.
as far as your opinion goes.
i personally know many venos with cmags, vmags, and torgirn who do perfectly well endgame.
the ONLY things hercs enable you to do that you can't otherwise, is aoe-grind with ease, and solo your own bosses and TT
And the cmags, vmags and poopmags allow you to do nothing troll.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
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Personally i find the crystaline mag much better. i've been using mine ever since i was level 17, still use it now. They dont start with as many skill as volcanic but i find its stats are better, anyway you can always teach your pet more skills and level the ones it currently has ^^0
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