Advice on sharding

Tisa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hello!

I'm approaching level 90 and currently using a pure mag build. After playing with PWI calc a bit i came up with 2 sets of numbers for HP and Pdef with TT90 armors. I'd like some opinions what you guys think looks better or would work better for my veno. All stats are basic.

Mostly citrine sharding:

5480 HP - 2525 Pdef (5828 Pdef Foxform)

Garnet sharding:

4745 HP - 3364 Pdef (7780 Pdef Foxform)

On a sidenote, i don't pvp much (almost never) if that makes a difference.

Thanks for all your replies! b:thanks

if you dont pvp, then go full hp i would say since most of the time your pet will be tanking :P

Garnet = cheaper, arcane/mag covers mag def. Lower HP =easier/ cheaper to fill.

Cenminator - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hp is good against all types of dmg

And higher defense will effectively increase the number of hits per amount healed heal or, in other words, lower the amount of healing required to compensate for getting hit.

5480 hp, 41% physical, 61% physical fox
vs
4745 hp, 48% physical, 68% physical fox

That's 5480 hp and taking 59%/39% damage or 4745 hp and taking 52%/32% damage.

So you would be trading off 15.5% hp to take damage 12%/18% better. How often are you using foxform? It's one of those buffs where as arcane you don't need to be in it often defense wise (outside of the usual 20% to maximize effectiveness) but when you do, it helps a ton.

If it helps with your decision at all, I'm planning to go garnets, I would rather have the higher defense against physical ae's than a few more hp. A lot of the armor I get already has some hp and refines add more. There's not all that much reason for me to go citrines too when I can get a good benefit out of the garnets.

I don't know what types of squads you run with, but some quick estimating for those gear sets (I'll be off a bit since I can't tell exactly how much physical resist is on the gear), I'm coming up with around
7398 hp 3848 def/7151 fox def
6176 hp 5126 def/9542 fox def

This would work out to
7398 hp 51%/66%
6176 hp 58%/72%

Which would mean
7398 hp 49% taken/34% taken
6409 hp 42% taken/28% taken

That's still a 15.5% hp gap for 14%/17% less taken. That might alter your opinion since the range changes from 12/18 to 14/17 which makes garnets more appealing if you're not in fox very much, and less appealing if you're in fox a lot.. Anyways, like I said, I plan to do garnets, the logic basically being, it's easier to heal 5000 hp that takes 50% damage, than 10000 hp that takes 100% damage, since small heals are effectively worth more.

I use fox a lot as arcane for extreme conditions, and still go with garnets. Fox multiplies on the garnet's defense. If I need better mag defense instead for extreme conditions: I equip some +mag equips which also come in handy for boss tanking / pet healing.

Don't know why I share this advice, because I'd prefer to keep Garnets cheap.

And yeah, as Brael points out: HP comes from refines. Better is +vitality which adds defense as well as HP.

While that's true Solandri, I haven't been a big fan of that argument since genies came out, the reason is because tree of protection is a percent heal, and even after the recent change is still cheaper healing for the coin than normal potions, by far even with relatively few hp though there is a minimum hp pool/tree level for it to still be the case. It would apply to essence penetration though.

Hi I'm curious as to the number of sockets and refines you are calculating as well as what cape, hat, ornaments will be used. At 91 with TT90 arcane set(+3 refine 3 sockets all flaw cits) I have 4700 hp 1800 pdef 7800 mana unbuffed.

Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »

720 stamina each. At 60 str 60 dex (I'm using these values because those also happen to be the str/dex amounts necessary for blinding sand to be a 100% debuff) ToP provides an 86.4% heal at level 10 (side note, the old one capped at 80%),

Don't have the skill, but from what I hear, ToP is 700 stamina at level 1. At level 10 it's supposedly around 1000 stamina.

Second Wind at level 10 gives 800 hp + 2% per str for just 320 stamina. So with 60 str it would give 800 + 120% = 1760. That's 5.375 hp per stamina. Downside is it has a 60 sec cooldown.

For ToP to be as efficient, at 1000 stamina it would need to restore 5375 hp. So with an 86.4% heal, you'd need to have 6221 hp. Less than that and Second Wind is more efficient.

If I'm wrong and ToP only uses 700 stamina, it would need to restore 3762 hp. You would have to have 4354 hp or more for ToP to be more efficient.

Note that these numbers only apply to both skills at level 10 and 60 str. The way the skills are set up, you pretty much have to calculate each case by yourself. With 4 variables (skill level, str, dex, and your hp), it's impossible to make any sort of plot of this that's viewable on a web page.