1/2 Damage while in water ?

huut
huut Posts: 12 Arc User
edited September 2009 in General Discussion
Hi guys,

Location: Swamp of the Wraiths
Enemy: Acephalic Rider (68)

Acephalic stand on the earth/ground while attacking: FULL DAMAGE (around 1400)
Acephalic stand in the water (swamp) while attacking: 1/2 DAMAGE (around 700-800)

Same sit with my BARB and with a CLERIC. Is this a bug or what? Is there any hidden andvantage for Acephalic's while standing in water? Bug?

Thanks for info !
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    this is normal
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  • huut
    huut Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Normal = should be like this or normal = because it's a known bug?
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    normal because its an old issue and wont be fixed even if it is considered a bug.

    PS. Its not whether the mob is on water or not, its whether or not you yourself are in water.
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    this is how the game was designed, not a bug

    still early in the morning, forgive my vagueness b:chuckle


    EDIT: ninja'd
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Normal because it's the same as firing at the ground from the air?

    If you're not in the same zone (both in water, both in air, both on land) then you deal half damage.

    The swamp is just.. particularly stupid for it.
  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If you're not in the same zone (both in water, both in air, both on land) then you deal half damage.

    you have grossly oversimplified it

    here's the actual stats:

    both on ground = 100% damage
    both in air = 100% damage
    both in water = 100% damage

    "A" in air, "B" on ground = "A" does 50% damage to "B", while "B" does 100% damage to "A"

    "A" in water, "B" on ground = "A" does 100% damage to "B", while "B" does 50% damage to "A"
    (i could be wrong, never actually tested this one, will test later)

    "A" in water, "B" in air = erm... unsure how this one works, never been a time where it's come into play
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    No, no it's not normal.

    It was a bug that appeared after the huge patch a few weeks ago. I know this myself because I did roughly 50 oma's on deathknights before and the second the patch appeared this bug popped up.

    Unfortunately GM's have, I quote, decided it's a "minor issue and probably wont be fixed". -.- Obviously they havent tried fighting several agro'd mobs with increased life at half damage.

    Originally if you were submerged (swimming) you got a damage reduction. But thanks to the bug you now get a damage reduction if the water is over a certain height. Like knee depth as opposed to fractionally below knee depth.
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Ah, I had some trouble with the Yayans due to this.
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  • Drazo - Dreamweaver
    Drazo - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,187 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Huh....I was wondering why I was scratching those mobs to death the other day.

    It doesn't help how the ground pets keep on stowing themselves (usually during the most inconvienient time) but if you stay on land, your pet should stay out. Only if you or both you and your pet are in the water might it do it, usually.
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    simple solution: dont be an idiot and fight in the water. (common sense)
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    But most of the swamp mobs are entirely in the water. Unless you want to spend hours pecking around trying find lone wandering mobs who happened to walk onto dry land.
    you have grossly oversimplified it

    here's the actual stats:

    both on ground = 100% damage
    both in air = 100% damage
    both in water = 100% damage

    The swamp water glitch problem is.

    both in water = You deal 50% damage
  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But most of the swamp mobs are entirely in the water. Unless you want to spend hours pecking around trying find lone wandering mobs who happened to walk onto dry land.

    i would strongly suggest you invest in a bow...


    1) hotkey your primary weapon, and your bow
    2) equip bow with hotkey
    3) shoot 1 arrow at mob
    4) switch to primary weapon using hotkey
    5) let mob run towards you
    6) attack it once it's on dry land

    sounds difficult and/or time consuming, but it adds maybe a few extra seconds of time to each kill, and is easy

    if that's too much added time, you seriously need to step outside for fresh air b:chuckle (joke)
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i would strongly suggest you invest in a bow...


    1) hotkey your primary weapon, and your bow
    2) equip bow with hotkey
    3) shoot 1 arrow at mob
    4) switch to primary weapon using hotkey
    5) let mob run towards you
    6) attack it once it's on dry land

    sounds difficult and/or time consuming, but it adds maybe a few extra seconds of time to each kill, and is easy

    if that's too much added time, you seriously need to step outside for fresh air b:chuckle (joke)

    Yeh but....can't they just fix the bug?

    Fortunately I outleveled the swamps a good while back myself anyway.
  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeh but....can't they just fix the bug?

    'course not. lol, that'd be too easy b:laugh
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i would strongly suggest you invest in a bow...


    1) hotkey your primary weapon, and your bow
    2) equip bow with hotkey
    3) shoot 1 arrow at mob
    4) switch to primary weapon using hotkey
    5) let mob run towards you
    6) attack it once it's on dry land

    sounds difficult and/or time consuming, but it adds maybe a few extra seconds of time to each kill, and is easy

    if that's too much added time, you seriously need to step outside for fresh air b:chuckle (joke)

    I'm an archer and I found the area to be annoying, since it's rather crowded and it's pretty easy to run into other mobs and get yourself killed.

    And as far as I know, there's no way to hotkey swapping items without modding the game.
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And as far as I know, there's no way to hotkey swapping items without modding the game.

    1) press "B" to open inventory
    2) click&drag piece of equipment to hotkey bar
    3) use hotkey to switch items instantly

    b:victory
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  • huut
    huut Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Thanks for your answers!
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    This is the one place I'd advise fighting from dragonback.

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