Ideas to Replace Tree of Protection?

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ColdSteele - Lost City
ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
edited September 2009 in General Discussion
Seeing as how the life saver heal isn't there anymore I was wondering if ppl had ideas on a new way to keep yourself all when that 9x attacks so you can run, or tanks to stay alive long enough to get back in cleric range when they pull boss out of rooms, etc. TELL UR IDEAS
It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    This is not being Sarcastic or condescending, but here are some ideas:

    HP Pots

    Immunity to Damage Pots

    Damage Absorption Pots

    True Emptiness (Barb Genie Skill)

    Turtle Skill
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  • Dominatiger - Sanctuary
    Dominatiger - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    There isnt another healing genie skill so powerfull like ToP was if is that what you seek. Yep uncharmed players in pvp = death, unless you use the new HP pots from event the ones that give 3500 HP and like RedsRose told damage absorption pots.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    Dominatiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    There isnt another healing genie skill so powerfull like ToP was if is that what you seek. Yep uncharmed players in pvp = death, unless you use the new HP pots from event the ones that give 3500 HP and like RedsRose told damage absorption pots.

    Tai Chi is kind of similar, but there is one more up in levels.
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  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    I know ur serious. I'm just looking for some ways to stack healing stuff to get the old ToP effect
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

    aryannamage: Not PWE GM's they are all greedy b:angry
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    Uncharmed players in pvp has always equaled death with tree of protection or without lol, especially in a TW.

    Tree of Protection really is used for un-charmed people who are grinding since you don't really need a charm in PVE. Or barbs spamming arma in pvp luls.
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  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    But if I'm getting attacked and don't fight, as a barb at least ToP would usually bail me out for enough time to put on the guns and go
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

    aryannamage: Not PWE GM's they are all greedy b:angry
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    get into the air and use solid shield? or turtle.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    what is turtle plz?
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

    aryannamage: Not PWE GM's they are all greedy b:angry
  • Helr - Sanctuary
    Helr - Sanctuary Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but it looks like essence penetration would work well in place of ToP. It uses the same affinities, and the level 6 costs the same energy and stamina wise as ToP lvl 3.
    Instantly heals a base amount of HP, plus 2% of that base for each genie str.

    I.e. level 6 heals 520 +(520*(str*.02). With only 20 str that equals out to about 728 hp, which is more than enough for my cleric, though a purely str-based genie may be needed for barbs and bms.

    On a side note, its listed in the learn genie skill list as "last stand"
    helr - cleric,7X
    Jaggerjaques - BM, 7X
    blackrobe - Wizard, 6X
    and several others :D
  • Cenminator - Dreamweaver
    Cenminator - Dreamweaver Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    could always try dragging a cleric friend around with you.
  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    Charms.


    That's why the skill was changed, because people were using it in place of an hp heiro.
    The only way to win is to quit. b:bye
  • Bartack - Heavens Tear
    Bartack - Heavens Tear Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    ToP may not be as simple as before, but maxed out at lvl 10 with enough stat points in the right places, it still does the job. Im not saying its nearly as good as it was before, but it works. Oh, and the new low lvl healing skill works pretty good with a str genie as a sort of insta-pot. At lvl 10 with 60 str it heals 1760
    ....sigh...oh well...miss my old genieb:cry
  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    So far for new skills i'm thinking, ToP, last stand/essence whatever, true emptiness, and holy path. what do yall think?
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

    aryannamage: Not PWE GM's they are all greedy b:angry
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    Bartack - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ToP may not be as simple as before, but maxed out at lvl 10 with enough stat points in the right places, it still does the job. Im not saying its nearly as good as it was before, but it works. Oh, and the new low lvl healing skill works pretty good with a str genie as a sort of insta-pot. At lvl 10 with 60 str it heals 1760
    ....sigh...oh well...miss my old genieb:cry

    ToP 10 can still heal 80% just like before, at 60 str 40 dex. It just costs more coin. It's kind of dumb they added 70 stat points (50 if str genie) to what you need to hit max effectiveness though, even though they technically reduced the vit needed by 20 points.
  • ColdSteele - Lost City
    ColdSteele - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    So I have 40 magic points on my genie now. If i take some of that off, can I still have 4 genie skills????
    It's too bad but "free to play, pay to win"-sckye

    These "updates" are seeming more and more like downgrades.

    aryannamage: Not PWE GM's they are all greedy b:angry
  • turtlewax
    turtlewax Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    ColdSteele - Lost City wrote: »
    ... can I still have 4 genie skills????

    Yes, patch notes state 0-50 lucky points have 4 skills, more with increasing lucky points.
  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    I wish they could make a mp version of tree of protection. That would make everyone like a veno! mwhahahahahhahaha I shall be invincible...well until my genie's energy runs out..b:sad
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  • _Vivio_ - Sanctuary
    _Vivio_ - Sanctuary Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    ColdSteele - Lost City wrote: »
    what is turtle plz?

    Press R, look at ur barb skills u see the one that looks like a turtle. Invoke the Spirit.
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  • RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary
    RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    Tree is still good if you know how to use it...you have to max it to 10 now, and alot of strength lets you still arma the sht outta people with it. At level 10 you gain 20% hp every 3 seconds, 5% less than it used to be...and gain 30% more hp...it used to be 60%...but str now increases the max hp increase 1% per 2 points, so if we made a str genie, 80 points of str in that...we hp could be boosted 30 + 40%...70%, giving you 170% hp to arma with, and healing 20% of 170% your total hp each time...not bad really.

    Then look at other skills like solid shield, mire, and true emptyness, all their bonuses run off strength as well...now we are really getting somewhere...True emptyness is like an aerial thunderstorm now vs arcanes now as well if u got that much str on your genie (and that range of 16 meters helps also)...deals like (1400 + 20 * energy consumed) * 3 (the 3 factor is in the air only)....then .8% more of that number per point of strength, all of it physical damage, oh right and u get a roughly 3.3k magic shield as well....so if at 80 str u have 120 energy..u would deal about 18696 damage before pvp reduction and resistance factored in.
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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    If you took that approach, at 5 dex you would have a 68% heal with a hp boost of 70%. If you took it to 90 and 24 you could get a 80.5% heal (.5% above old tree) with a 75% hp boost. Using a str genie you could do that for 129 points.

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