Foxform skills for arcane users

Lolite - Heavens Tear
Lolite - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Venomancer
Hi all. I am an arcane veno and I am interested in getting some foxform skills. So far I have amplify damage updated to my current level. I have around 800k spare skill points and would like to get some foxform skills.

So I am wondering what foxform skills are good for everyday grinding and possibly on bosses? Thanks a lot b:thanks
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Purge, you'll need it for later bosses.
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  • Lolite - Heavens Tear
    Lolite - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Do I need to keep upgrading purge or lvl1 is okay? I've heard that Purge is only necessary for TW and I don't really intend on joining any TWs...
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  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Amp and Purge most especially for bosses. Crush Vigor is supposed to be good in PvP and you can couple that with the Demon Skill you get that causes a target to lose 50 chi. I'm unsure if it's a curse though. I don't remember. Aside from that... Some have thought that Soul Degeneration would also be good in PvP or leeching bosses.

    I'd say at some point you want to max them all out. I've been working on that myself. Purge and two of my curses are maxed and two of the melee attacks are maxed out. The others are L6 or L8.

    Purge - maxed out has a 30 second cool down which is very useful in 2-2/2-3 because the ape boss buffs himself every 15 seconds or so.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Max amp dmg, purge, foxform and the -accuracy skill.
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  • Vidalaire - Heavens Tear
    Vidalaire - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    And leech. Leech is one of the most useful fox form skills.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Do you still get the +hp from leech if you miss?
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  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    No, it only works if it hits.
  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No, it only works if it hits.

    Wrong. You do. :p
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  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Leech, Befuddling Mist, Amplify Damage are what you need right now. Have max purge by the mid 80's, level 1 is sufficient for now. Also don't forget Myriad fox at 79. I like having Consume Spirit as well, but it's by no means necessary, and it's very expensive to make it effective.
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No, it only works if it hits.

    Consume/Leech both work even if you miss.
  • Vidalaire - Heavens Tear
    Vidalaire - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Although Leech only has an 80% chance to steal HP. Stunning Blow is also something to consider getting. Helps with those mobs that like to kite.
  • Foxx - Heavens Tear
    Foxx - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Leech is good for those long fights where you take slow aoe damage, like room 6 in the cube or feng. Saves using potions.
    Purge is useful in pve, but I find most bosses recast their buffs faster then purge's cooldown. Maxing purge will reduce your cooldown but its still too slow.
    Of course having 2 veno's solves that problem. You need it for cosmoforce and its useful for some world bosses.
  • Grayroses - Heavens Tear
    Grayroses - Heavens Tear Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    If you're arcane type the only skills you need for foxform are:
    -amplify damage (maxed);
    -purge (maxed if possible, for later belial runs and not only);
    -leech (optional, I don't find it too useful if you're mostly magic);
    -myriad rainbow (for TW, rebirth).
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  • Lolite - Heavens Tear
    Lolite - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Thanks for all the suggestions b:thanks You guys are awesome!
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Grayroses - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you're arcane type the only skills you need for foxform are:
    -amplify damage (maxed);
    -purge (maxed if possible, for later belial runs and not only);
    -leech (optional, I don't find it too useful if you're mostly magic);
    -myriad rainbow (for TW, rebirth).

    Why does everyone want to kill the faction I'm in? Even if they are on another server? Or is it that none of you know how to read? Since when does Ancient Evil spell Belial? Go back to school.

    On topic, I maxed every fox skill even though I'm arcane. I've made good use of them all and am even getting the sage versions right now.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'd probably skip stunning blow if I did over. Kiting is predictable, and SB uses a spark, and has a cool down of 15s.

    Purge may be arguable. I like the greater patk on the boss for better reflect dmg. It's good that Herc's have a buff that keeps bosses from missing. Even Sage Purge also has a 30s cool down, while the boss mentioned buffs every 15s. Purge is awesome for TW though.
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  • Lolite - Heavens Tear
    Lolite - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Just got my leech and I am loving it xD It makes me use my pots even less b:laugh
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    tweakz wrote: »
    I'd probably skip stunning blow if I did over. Kiting is predictable, and SB uses a spark, and has a cool down of 15s.
    You need to get at least one rank in Stunning Blow to get Leech. It's only 12k spirit so no big deal. And even if you don't plan to use it, it can be handy on occasion. Like when you're pulling a mob which tends to run in tight quarters. Hit it with SB when it comes in and it'll usually stay put.
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Why does everyone want to kill the faction I'm in? Even if they are on another server? Or is it that none of you know how to read? Since when does Ancient Evil spell Belial? Go back to school.

    A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

    As for skills, I agree with the majority here. Amplify and Purge especially.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    My foxform is at lvl 1 still as I do't use that often but I have some skills lvled up to 3 or so.I am an Arcane user myself I guess lvled up foxform would help if I wanted to use it.How much protection does this provide to Arcane users like Tigerform provides to Barbs?

    My purge is at 1 still.
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Fox form level 3 is real useful for running away from whatever. Also, it is useful for long boss fights with physical AOEs and you're healing so you basically stay in fox form. It adds a good 15-20% physical defense unbuffed (for me) if I remember correctly.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    How do you heal in foxform though unlike tigerform?
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  • shlomo2
    shlomo2 Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How do you heal in foxform though unlike tigerform?
    leech is great to it.
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  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How do you heal in foxform though unlike tigerform?

    Leech heals you, pet heals (and everything in that column... heal pet, revive pet, tame pet, summer's sprint, soul transfusion) work in fox.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Leech does all that.What would be the best pet to use for foxform?
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Herc or nix.

    EDIT: also, could you please put a space after the punctuation marks? Makes it easier to read.
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    I dropped the worry on the way-
    And God was good to me everyday.
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    No, Leech heals you. Heal pet is heal pet. The best pet would be a tank pet if you want it to tank, a dps pet if you want it to dps, same as arcane really.
  • Belial - Heavens Tear
    Belial - Heavens Tear Posts: 972 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I got all the standard FoxForm skills (albeit, it was probably later level than you).

    I find myself (largely a PvE player) needing the following the most: FoxForm, Amplify Damage, Leech, Stunning Blow, Purge. The latter two are quite specialised (i.e. runners or bosses that self buff), the former three help me greatly in most fights (i.e. FoxForm saves my butt in most AoE fights or accidental overaggro, Amplify makes my battles go quicker, Leech helps with my HP/MP management).

    I would recommend getting at least level one of those skills - it doesn't cost much and gives you the opportunity to play around with all of them and see what you enjoy using.

    Soul Degeneration has a cute animation - unusual for a veno! b:chuckle
  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I have only seen my Leech actually leech once. Thus, it is a fail skill in my opinion, but I prefer caster form to fox form and I will be biased. As an arcane veno your points are largely accumulated in magic which makes your caster form skills better (strength wise) than the fox form ones. As far as being "useful," a veno really only needs Amp and Purge for bosses. If they like to spend some time fighting in fox form, so much the better if they get all the skills and try to keep them all leveled up. Adding STR will add greater damage to your fox form skills.
  • shlomo2
    shlomo2 Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have only seen my Leech actually leech once. Thus, it is a fail skill in my opinion, but I prefer caster form to fox form and I will be biased. As an arcane veno your points are largely accumulated in magic which makes your caster form skills better (strength wise) than the fox form ones. As far as being "useful," a veno really only needs Amp and Purge for bosses. If they like to spend some time fighting in fox form, so much the better if they get all the skills and try to keep them all leveled up. Adding STR will add greater damage to your fox form skills.
    the fox form attack tree is 100% melee. means missed skill = null effect.
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  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I rarely use fox form, only for amp and purge and to run faster, but when I do use it, I don't miss. (At least I don't recall seeing a miss, but my damage in fox form is insignificant.)

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