Decided to go 3★

Gregen - Lost City
Gregen - Lost City Posts: 174 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Wizard
Well after enough time of seeing how difficult it was to get tt80 armor and hearing enough trash talk about it, I'm going to go with 3★ armor.

I'm planning on sharding everything fully with average citrine shards, better if I can find them (like a beautiful shard I have). My question is: will that be enough HP? People's opinion of "enough" on these forums seem to be considerably higher than what I have for my level (77).
I have 1995 HP (unbuffed). I have citrine shards in there as well as a garnet shard and sapphire shard. I didn't think of it at the time of sharding, I was just using what I had. I have, however, been complemented on my high survivability with low HP.

EDIT: Light armor, btw.
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Well after enough time of seeing how difficult it was to get tt80 armor and hearing enough trash talk about it, I'm going to go with 3★ armor.

    I'm planning on sharding everything fully with average citrine shards, better if I can find them (like a beautiful shard I have). My question is: will that be enough HP? People's opinion of "enough" on these forums seem to be considerably higher than what I have for my level (77).
    I have 1995 HP (unbuffed). I have citrine shards in there as well as a garnet shard and sapphire shard. I didn't think of it at the time of sharding, I was just using what I had. I have, however, been complemented on my high survivability with low HP.

    EDIT: Light armor, btw.

    You must have terrible gear to have HP that low. b:shocked Anyways, don't get HH80 gear, just get the 78 mould chestplate, the 69 mould leggings, and give them decent refines/sharding.
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
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  • Levoden - Heavens Tear
    Levoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I don't know...but that seems extremely low in my opinion (especially for LA).

    I'm the same level as you and I've got 2670 HP unbuffed and I'm pure mag.
    I didn't add a single point to Vit, and the only vit I have is from equips. Rest of the HP is from shards and a few refines. I've only refined some of my gear to +1 or +2 too.

    and my HP is only considered average.
  • Gregen - Lost City
    Gregen - Lost City Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I don't know what I'm doing wrong then. I have tt70 chest and pants, 3★ boots and bracers that add +3 vit. Everything except wepaon, pants and bracers have a citrine shard in them.

    Anyways, what I wanted to know is if sharding all my 8x gear full with average citrine shards will give me enough HP.
  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    What grade hp shards on your gear, and what gear exactly do you have?
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
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  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wizards who get 3 star usually are arcane armour. If you're a la wiz get the 69 pant mold and 78 mold top and 78 mold wrists
  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I have pants of hades (70 leg leggings), steppenwolf (77 leg shirt), 3* boots and an arcane helmet that gives + hp. I have 3080 hp unbuffed. Just refine your legendary stuff a bit and put some shards in it. I dont know if you are planning on doing rebirth, but I noticed having 4k hp buffed really helps alot.
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  • Hizaki - Dreamweaver
    Hizaki - Dreamweaver Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    What would you guys recomend to get as a torso peice? I'm a level 54 arcane. right now I'm using a 2* sacred tortoise
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  • Levoden - Heavens Tear
    Levoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Usually anything is fine under lv 70.

    You'll be fine if you stick with +phys res and +vit bonuses. I used the lv 52 Legendary Pants of dragon scales until lv 70 and stuck with mainly quest gear at around lv 50-60.

    Also, get protection necklaces/protection belts as opposed to elemental or ethereal if you're arcane. It helps if you can get +vit or +hp on those too.
  • HunnyBunny - Harshlands
    HunnyBunny - Harshlands Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Try to get something like that: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=2238207a4aa834d2

    It's most likely the gear I will have at level 80 (lvl 73 atm). Ornaments/helmet could change if I find better ones, the rest is pretty much fix. Cape of Tauran is nice but pretty expensive, so try to get a cape with +hp/pdef bonuses and at least 3 sockets if you wanna be cheap.
  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Take note:

    Get mold gear it's cheaper and better

    Shard everything with g7 since they're same price as g6 now

    I had 3.5k hp unbuffed from 80 with bad refines and only died in rebirth when double wave came and I was watching a film

    2k hp is laughable, period

    @ awful pwicalc person

    Necklace of legion over equine talisman for mdef - no.

    HH pdef belt sucks since you have enough pdef, just use sundown pendant

    cape is waste of money get double hp mods

    /endtopic
  • Ikens - Harshlands
    Ikens - Harshlands Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Take note:

    Get mold gear it's cheaper and better

    Shard everything with g7 since they're same price as g6 now

    I had 3.5k hp unbuffed from 80 with bad refines and only died in rebirth when double wave came and I was watching a film

    2k hp is laughable, period

    @ awful pwicalc person

    Necklace of legion over equine talisman for mdef - no.

    HH pdef belt sucks since you have enough pdef, just use sundown pendant

    cape is waste of money get double hp mods

    /endtopic

    Agree on ornaments, though he posted he will change them if he gets better ones. Cape isn't that much of a waste anymore. Saw one +3 with 4 slots and flawless shards in AH for 6-7kk 2 days ago (yay BH and anni packs). On the other hand I didn't see any lvl 40+ cape with 2 +hp mods and at least 2 sockets within the last 4 weeks.
    So at least on Harshland it's atm a choice of patience/cash b:shutup

    Maybe you can upload your old gear from lvl 80 (if you remember)? Would be nice to see
  • Fluffi - Harshlands
    Fluffi - Harshlands Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Take note:
    @ awful pwicalc person

    Necklace of legion over equine talisman for mdef - no.

    HH pdef belt sucks since you have enough pdef, just use sundown pendant

    cape is waste of money get double hp mods

    /endtopic

    I like the -3 channeling and +5 magic more than the +30 hp and +1 decr. phy and 63 pdef, that's why I'd rather go +3 on the necklace of legion to make up for the tiny bit mag. def lost ,though I don't think that bit is worth the effort.

    I haven't looked that much into the belt-question (using the token of seven belt atm) but I have at least 66% mag def everywhere fully buffed whereas my pdef with sundown pendant would be 63% and with belt of earth 65%. Is the +110hp what makes it the better choice or is sundown way cheaper?

    Got tired looking every day since 4 weeks into catshops and auction house not finding any suitable cloak, that's why I decided on the cape now. Money isn't a problem for me right now.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I really don't get it, why people spending money on gear which they "trow it away" when they pass the level. It wasting the money. I'm using 3* and just weapon is TT. + super cheap -6% channeling. armlet made from mold. I will do refine armor at my last 99lv end game armor. From level 90 I will use TT armor which I decompose at level 99, because you need soul from this armor. Till level 90 I have just normal gear. I didn't spent 1 coins for refining. Wait for your level than refine and fill up with shard.b:pleased
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  • Levoden - Heavens Tear
    Levoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I really don't get it, why people spending money on gear which they "trow it away" when they pass the level. It wasting the money. I'm using 3* and just weapon is TT. + super cheap -6% channeling. armlet made from mold. I will do refine armor at my last 99lv end game armor. From level 90 I will use TT armor which I decompose at level 99, because you need soul from this armor. Till level 90 I have just normal gear. I didn't spent 1 coins for refining. Wait for your level than refine and fill up with shard.b:pleased


    You don't really "throw it away". You can sell refined gear as well. You probably won't be able to get all of the money that you spent on the refines back, but it'll be enough, assuming that you make some money along the way.

    Also, I don't wanna know how much HP you have if you never refined anything before...

    Getting from lv 80 - 90 is takes longer than getting from lv 1 - 80.


    To be honest, I have a harder time selling 3* items on the AH than if I sold some refined legendary or TT gear.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    You don't really "throw it away". You can sell refined gear as well. You probably won't be able to get all of the money that you spent on the refines back, but it'll be enough, assuming that you make some money along the way.

    Also, I don't wanna know how much HP you have if you never refined anything before...

    Getting from lv 80 - 90 is takes longer than getting from lv 1 - 80.


    To be honest, I have a harder time selling 3* items on the AH than if I sold some refined legendary or TT gear.

    I don't want to sell 3*. I will decompose it to 3 mirages. Also I didn't buy my 3* gear. Everything is just drop from Bounty hunter. I was saving money for TT 90. And I have all material for manufacturing armor right now. Now I just maximizing my skills and buying shard and dragon balls.
    And my HP is 2350 I'm almost arcane in vitality aj have 31 points. Gears is filled up with citrine shard what dropped from mobs. So maximum level of shards is common. And also not every slot is filled, just 1/3.b:pleased
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  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Agree on ornaments, though he posted he will change them if he gets better ones. Cape isn't that much of a waste anymore. Saw one +3 with 4 slots and flawless shards in AH for 6-7kk 2 days ago (yay BH and anni packs). On the other hand I didn't see any lvl 40+ cape with 2 +hp mods and at least 2 sockets within the last 4 weeks.
    So at least on Harshland it's atm a choice of patience/cash b:shutup

    Maybe you can upload your old gear from lvl 80 (if you remember)? Would be nice to see

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=acb837192aa5ac54

    Yes majority of gear is bad: G5 shards since i was a poor hobo, helm was cheap, rank ring sucks too as do boots, but as you can see its pretty easy to get over 3.5k hp with mold stuff

    Can all be resold nice and easy though and since up to 86 is really quick is rebirth then fish to 90
  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I really don't get it, why people spending money on gear which they "trow it away" when they pass the level. It wasting the money. I'm using 3* and just weapon is TT. + super cheap -6% channeling. armlet made from mold. I will do refine armor at my last 99lv end game armor. From level 90 I will use TT armor which I decompose at level 99, because you need soul from this armor. Till level 90 I have just normal gear. I didn't spent 1 coins for refining. Wait for your level than refine and fill up with shard.b:pleased

    Better armor = for me more fun in the game. Im not going to suck **** by having bad gear during 80's and have like no fun till I am 90. But I am not a fast leveler, so I enjoy my gear longer than average.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Better armor = for me more fun in the game. Im not going to suck **** by having bad gear during 80's and have like no fun till I am 90. But I am not a fast leveler, so I enjoy my gear longer than average.

    Look we are too weak for PvP so for PvE we need just normal 3* gear. Is much better to maximizing skills because they are so expensive. If you are pure you don't have problems with normal mobs anymore. Mobs even don't touch me, barely just 1 hit. Better is saving money for end game gear. But it your decision. b:pleased
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  • Levoden - Heavens Tear
    Levoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Look we are too weak for PvP so for PvE we need just normal 3* gear. Is much better to maximizing skills because they are so expensive. If you are pure you don't have problems with normal mobs anymore. Mobs even don't touch me, barely just 1 hit. Better is saving money for end game gear. But it your decision. b:pleased

    WTF?

    WE aren't weak at PvP at lv 70-80, YOU are. b:shocked
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Look we are too weak for PvP so for PvE we need just normal 3* gear. Is much better to maximizing skills because they are so expensive. If you are pure you don't have problems with normal mobs anymore. Mobs even don't touch me, barely just 1 hit. Better is saving money for end game gear. But it your decision. b:pleased

    speak for yourself i kill ppl all the damn time 8x/9x doesnt matter. yes 9x kill me easily but unless it's a charmed barb it's fairly simple to kill someone as a wizard
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  • Hizaki - Dreamweaver
    Hizaki - Dreamweaver Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Not even that weak at level 60 pvp, just play your cards(spells) right. I dropped iFind_You (archer around level 58) yesterday at level 54
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    WTF?

    WE aren't weak at PvP at lv 70-80, YOU are. b:shocked
    You didn't get it. Every pure mage is weak to PVP till lv 90+. From these levels we starting gain power. If you are pure I bet with you, that you will lose 90% of your duels with comparable levels players.b:laugh
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  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    You didn't get it. Every pure mage is weak to PVP till lv 90+. From these levels we starting gain power. If you are pure I bet with you, that you will lose 90% of your duels with comparable levels players.b:laugh

    Please get off the wizard section

    "duels" b:shutupb:shutupb:shutup
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Please get off the wizard section

    "duels" b:shutupb:shutupb:shutup

    Sure. Because you wanted it? b:laughb
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  • Cryxtal - Sanctuary
    Cryxtal - Sanctuary Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Depending on how strong u wanna be at ur late 70s all the way to 90. I used dark pants of hedes , 3* boots, armor of grieving sorrows, blood bracers of fang (something like that). Some are average cit, some are beau, and only about 3 flawless throughout. Some refined to +4, some +3. Hp around 3.45k Unbuffed.

    From 70-78 just use 3* serendipitous plate with good hp stats. 3* LA wrist with good hp stat too. Use these 2 until ur lvl can use the legendary ones.

    With 3.45k HP unbuffed u wont ever have problems with gamma, unless ur Barb is sucky
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  • Biggymad - Lost City
    Biggymad - Lost City Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Always good to build a mage to get hit, I mean, with skills like sunder,and Armageddon. what else are mages for, other than tanking Drum Bosses, or even an fb89 b:cuteb:shutup