boutique item refund

Amandalion - Heavens Tear
Amandalion - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Suggestion Box
if you bought an item from the boutique, like clothes or something, and changed your mind and dont want it anymore, wouldnt it be cool if you could refund it to the boutique or a boutique agent for the correct amount of gold? that way you could buy something else with it
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    No ---> Buyer Beware

    Just sell for in-game coins.
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  • Amandalion - Heavens Tear
    Amandalion - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    what if you cant find somebody that will buy it? what then?
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Than sucks to be you..... All sales are final. Next time, don't buy something you do not want.
    A little personal responsibility will really not hurt you....
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Then you try harder or keep the item.

    This gold refund will ruin the balance of coin to gold even more. For example a panther, normally costs 800k-900k (not sure of current gold prices). But, mounts are never the price of gold x amount of gold. It is often cheaper same as fashion items and items that go on sale. (ex. esos, charms). This means that a player can easily buy tons of cheap esos/mounts during sales/when its cheap, then refund it a for heck load of gold. Or, it will just bring gold prices/mount prices even higher.
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  • Ikurei - Dreamweaver
    Ikurei - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Then you try harder or keep the item.

    This gold refund will ruin the balance of coin to gold even more. For example a panther, normally costs 800k-900k (not sure of current gold prices). But, mounts are never the price of gold x amount of gold. It is often cheaper same as fashion items and items that go on sale. (ex. esos, charms). This means that a player can easily buy tons of cheap esos/mounts during sales/when its cheap, then refund it a for heck load of gold. Or, it will just bring gold prices/mount prices even higher.

    You forgot to mention the obvious.
    1) Pay $50 for 50 gold.
    2) Buy mount/fashion.
    3) Use mount/fashion until new mount/fashion comes out.
    4) Refund gold.
    5) Buy new mount/fashion.
    6) Repeat steps 3 to 5 until PW dies.
    Meh, saw a couple other people doing this so...
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    CS have a lot of lottery ticket and durable too, and I never see anyone IRL let you refund a lottery ticket that have been opened, or refund a durable after a few years.
    (lottery ticket are dye, clothes, perfect hammer, etc.)
    (durable are clothes, aerogear, etc.)
    Conclusion: bad suggestion, you might want to scrap this or modify this suggestion.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I know a game that had this feature. You had 24 hours to return the item to get your cash shop money back or you were stuck with it.
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  • Amandalion - Heavens Tear
    Amandalion - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    actually that might be a better idea, give you a certain amount of time to refund it, like if you accidentaly bought the wrong thing, then you could refund it and buy what you wanted to, but it has to be in exactly the same condition, and make the refund time like 30 minutes or near that, otherwise you are stuck with it forever
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    actually that might be a better idea, give you a certain amount of time to refund it, like if you accidentaly bought the wrong thing, then you could refund it and buy what you wanted to, but it has to be in exactly the same condition, and make the refund time like 30 minutes or near that, otherwise you are stuck with it forever

    WHAT??? Then people would keep buying and refunding lottery ticket, essentially make it pointless to have the chance element.
    If you want to allow refunding, the game need to change the system for lottery ticket too.
  • KotaroX - Dreamweaver
    KotaroX - Dreamweaver Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I don't know how, but my gut tells me that this will be severely abused.
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  • ChesireLeo - Dreamweaver
    ChesireLeo - Dreamweaver Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    what i'm thinking is that you could only refund mounts or clothes withing a set period of time.. as for randoms or consumables... sorry your stuck... socket stones are to be kept so are charms.. only mounts and clothing... even a wedding outfit should be returnable... or if you wanna get technical... always can buy it in the actioning!! :3
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  • Ryo_Hazuki - Lost City
    Ryo_Hazuki - Lost City Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Of course not. This would bankrupt PWE.
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  • Amandalion - Heavens Tear
    Amandalion - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i meant like only clothes and mounts similar items, not other stuff like charms and everything that can be abused
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    What's to stop someone from buying an article of clothing and returning it over and over until it came in the exact color they wanted?
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    What's to stop someone from buying an article of clothing and returning it over and over until it came in the exact color they wanted?

    The game would record what color the fashion/dye was when you got it and no matter how many times you return it, force you to have the same color no matter what
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    The game would record what color the fashion/dye was when you got it and no matter how many times you return it, force you to have the same color no matter what

    Good idea . . .

    Still voting no on the poll though - the 'all sales are final' policy is well known, so it's 'buyer beware.'
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  • BeingHope - Harshlands
    BeingHope - Harshlands Posts: 5,013 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    You forgot to mention the obvious.
    1) Pay $50 for 50 gold.
    2) Buy mount/fashion.
    3) Use mount/fashion until new mount/fashion comes out.
    4) Refund gold.
    5) Buy new mount/fashion.
    6) Repeat steps 3 to 5 until PW dies.

    b:sad so true.... the game would die if that happened
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  • Amandalion - Heavens Tear
    Amandalion - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    you guys are right, this is a bad idea
  • exent
    exent Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i meant like only clothes and mounts similar items, not other stuff like charms and everything that can be abused

    People would buy and get a refund of their clothes until they get the color they want. That would kill the dyes bizness...

    However, a renting system... For a lower price, you get a mount or a piece of clothing for like a week. That way, no abuse.

    Edit: just saw Zoe's suggestion on fixed color, that could work...
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Charm returning could not be abused. Once equipped you cannot take it off. Impossible to return.

    As for other consumables, you'd have to return the entire group of them if you got them in a bundle. They'd have to be the EXACT ones that you bought from the cash shop yourself.

    Each cash item, when bought, would have a timer labeled on it,and for bundles of consumables, a quantity as well. That timer is how long of a time you have to return the item to the cash shop. Once the timer is no longer displayed, the item is unreturnable.

    Certain rules would be used to avoid abuse of course.

    If the item with the timer ever changes from the posession of one player to another, the time runs out instantly.

    If you got a bundle of consumable items, if the quantity that you have with the synchronized timers (showing they are from the same bundle) ever goes below the amount you bought, the timer instantly runs out. Charms cannot be returned once equipped because they are bound.
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  • exent
    exent Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Charm returning could not be abused. Once equipped you cannot take it off. Impossible to return.

    As for other consumables, you'd have to return the entire group of them if you got them in a bundle. They'd have to be the EXACT ones that you bought from the cash shop yourself.

    Each cash item, when bought, would have a timer labeled on it,and for bundles of consumables, a quantity as well. That timer is how long of a time you have to return the item to the cash shop. Once the timer is no longer displayed, the item is unreturnable.

    Certain rules would be used to avoid abuse of course.

    If the item with the timer ever changes from the posession of one player to another, the time runs out instantly.

    If you got a bundle of consumable items, if the quantity that you have with the synchronized timers (showing they are from the same bundle) ever goes below the amount you bought, the timer instantly runs out. Charms cannot be returned once equipped because they are bound.

    Yea, if they make it so that no one can take advantage of it, yes, that would be nice...

    But then again, that would mean more work for them, with no upside. They will probably just tell us ''be careful when you buy something from the boutique''.

    Or... They will introduce a ''get 90% back refund'', and not a 100%.
  • Amandalion - Heavens Tear
    Amandalion - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Zoe just said what i meant to originally say in the first place, but in a much clearer way, that is exactly what i meant, ty for making it clearer than what i said
  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I suggest an improvement to the OP suggestion.
    Make all clothing/dye purchase from CS to be purchasing ticket instead (for example if you buy a wingspan top you will get a wingspan top ticket). This ticket once open will give the item of a random colour. Implement this ticket to anything from CS that are random. You can only refund the ticket not the item.
    For comsumable, make it so that only fully unconsumed item can be refunded. If you even lose 1 HP from a HP charm for example, it won't be refundable anymore.
    Now change currency for CS to platinum where 1 Gold=1000 Platinum. The purpose of this is to help to handle tiny transaction.
    Now for every thing you bought and want to refund you will get back platinum equivalent to refunded_platinum=floor(original_price*(1-1/(1+exp(-time/24)))).
    refunded_platinum and original_price is measure in platinum, time is amount of hour between purchasing and refunding (not necessary an integer).

    This meant that the item reduce in value quick enough that people won't do the wait and see method to see if they should sell it to someone or refund it (since the economy in-game flunctuate easily within hours), yet someone who purely make mistake should get almost all money back, yet still have lose some money so that they won't make purchase carelessly.