Lay of the plumpfish freeze attacks.

Swoop - Heavens Tear
Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Suggestion Box
This was originally posted in "Off topic" but was suggested it should be posted here so I did.


I'm sure I'm not the only one who's pulled his/her hair out over this. Thos lvl 80 plumpfish near sanctuary, you know the ones? Yea, the one's who keep freezing you so you can't do anything. wtf? You cant' heal, can't fight, can't move, all you can do is watch them kill you. A man has a better chance of winning a gunfight with a knife. I grow wary of having to squad up to kil something I could wipe out in 3 hits. If only you would at least give us a fighting chance. And, no. The ability to hit them once is not a chance. Being able to purify ourselfs to remove their freeze would be a start.


ok, the 3 hit claim may be stretching it a bit. But you get my point?
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Why are you dble posting on the same thing?

    One thread is enough....b:surrender

    EDIT ---> They closed the other one for this one.
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Why are you dble posting on the same thing?

    One thread is enough....b:surrender

    because i was originaly just ranting about something that annoyed me. Then it was suggested that I post the topic here. Where a thread is posted makes all the difference on what, if anything gets done.

    Spoons has now closed the "off topic" thread in favor of this one
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I think they should display a school behaviour, so when one freezes you, all the other ones would agrro and kill you. That would sooo rock...

    And they really need laser guns mounted on their heads...
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  • Accelerated - Sanctuary
    Accelerated - Sanctuary Posts: 1,048 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Or adding a freeze skill book for veno pets :D.
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    missing then point much? It's not about making them stronger, it's about giving players who like so solo them a fighting chance.

    So giving them "school behavior" would suck, big time
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    This is like asking FB boss to have stats of a normal mobs so that a wizard can solo it.

    Some mobs are meant to be fought in party period. And your chance aren't that low. Bring a genie and some apoth to deal with the freeze.
  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    This is like asking FB boss to have stats of a normal mobs so that a wizard can solo it.

    Some mobs are meant to be fought in party period. And your chance aren't that low. Bring a genie and some apoth to deal with the freeze.

    no its not you simpleminded fool. It's like what it is. Asking level 80 mobs not to constantly freeze you so that even lvl 79 - 80+ players can fight them without the need to waste loads of money on charms or squad, just to kill a normal mob that they could easily beat in just a few hits. All I'm asking is for them to reduce the duration of the freeze. So we at least have a chance. Instead of it being like taking a knife to a gunfight, savvy? So no, it's not the same as weakening a fb boss.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    In my opinion, they still could use laser guns on their heads....
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Meh - they aren't really that bad.
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    In my opinion, they still could use laser guns on their heads....

    yea, then it would be like tying your hands and feet and jumping in to a pirhanna tank, that does sound awesome. Incase you can't tell, I'm beind sarcastic. b:shutup.
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Your basis for weakening it is so that people can solo it. I already undermine it by giving the FB boss example. Unless you have better basis, this suggestion is worthless.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    Your basis for weakening it is so that people can solo it. I already undermine it by giving the FB boss example. Unless you have better basis, this suggestion is worthless.

    No, you are just being stupid. There is a massive difference between a normal monster and a boss.
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ilystah wrote: »
    Your basis for weakening it is so that people can solo it. I already undermine it by giving the FB boss example. Unless you have better basis, this suggestion is worthless.

    ok try reading before you reply to a post. It's not about making them weaker. it's about making the duration that their freeze lasts less. so that we can at least hit them more than once. Y'know, making it fair? How is it so hard for you to get the point?
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    No, you are just being stupid. There is a massive difference between a normal monster and a boss.

    couldn't have put it better myself b:laugh
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ilystah wrote: »

    Some mobs are meant to be fought in party period. And your chance aren't that low. Bring a genie and some apoth to deal with the freeze.

    one more thing i wanna add to this comment. You say bring a genie or some apoth to deal with the freeze? That proves you haven't fought these fish. Because you can't to anything once they freeze you. You can't heal. you can't fight. you can't move. you cant purify. genie skills are not strong enough to counter act the freeze, and hp pots do not heal faster than then take you hp. Savvy? You actually have a better chance at soloing an fb boss. Both are impossible but at least an fb boss allows you to use your skills.
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Can I just repeat my comment that they really aren't that hard anyway?
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  • Viper_girl - Heavens Tear
    Viper_girl - Heavens Tear Posts: 541 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Can I just repeat my comment that they really aren't that hard anyway?

    Please make your post useful by explaining why you find them easy and what techniques you use to counteract the problem.

    Otherwise it seems like an empty boast or post count filler.
  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Please make your post useful by explaining why you find them easy and what techniques you use to counteract the problem.

    Otherwise it seems like an empty boast or post count filler.

    Thankyou for posting this Viper_girl

    Yes, as Viper said a little info would be nice. Because these fish are far from easy. How do I know? I can solo FB29 but I can't beat these.
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Can I just repeat my comment that they really aren't that hard anyway?

    repeat your comment? to repeat a comment you first have to post the comment before you can repeat it. This is your first time posting this comment, so how can you repeat a comment that you have only posted once which was the comment that you said was repeating the first comment which this was, Savvy?
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  • Absoluth - Heavens Tear
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    They should add more mobs with tough skills like plumpfish in game, not remove. You want a pansie game, go play 'barbie in dreamlands'.
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    They should add more mobs with tough skills like plumpfish in game, not remove. You want a pansie game, go play 'barbie in dreamlands'.

    ok how many times to I have to say this before it sinks in? Its not about making them weaker, or making the game less difficult. And I'm not asking them to remove them or stop them freezeing. I'm asking then to reduce the duration of the freeze, so that when we do finally unfreeze we have enough hp to fight back.



    IT'S ABOUT MAKING THE GAME FAIR!!!!!!!!



    I'll explain it once more for those of you who are stupid.


    Sending a man to a gunfight with a knife = unfair.

    Giving him a gun = fair.

    Being frozen constantly so you can't fight back = unfair

    Being able to purify so you can cancel the freeze so you have a fighting chance = fair.

    GOT IT NOW? OR DO I NEED TO REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN.
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  • Absoluth - Heavens Tear
    Absoluth - Heavens Tear Posts: 764 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lol. Swoop, since you're clearly mentally challenged, i wont even bother argueing. You fail in reading comprehension. Whats worse is that you make it sound like nobody understood what you were trying to say, yet all you said so far is "My char fails, therefore i demmand change. Please make it easier for me so i can go from lv1~100 with zero challenges". You dont need to repeat that. Everyone here knows exactly what you meant, even though you yourself havent yet.

    The plumpfish IS solable. Just because you fail to do so, doesnt mean others cant. Besides, even if you cant manage to kill it alone, SO WHAT? Its exactly the same as complaining about not being able to solo your own FB or quest boss. You ask for help, and you get things done. Its called 'cooperative gameplay' and it makes the game alot more interesting. The game should have more of it, not make everything solable. PWI already fails big time for letting the venomancers do nearly everything solo. Dont try to **** over the few decent mobs we got in game, 1 of which being mr plumpy. He's not even that hard.
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  • Swoop - Heavens Tear
    Swoop - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lol. Swoop, since you're clearly mentally challenged, i wont even bother argueing. You fail in reading comprehension. Whats worse is that you make it sound like nobody understood what you were trying to say, yet all you said so far is "My char fails, therefore i demmand change. Please make it easier for me so i can go from lv1~100 with zero challenges". You dont need to repeat that. Everyone here knows exactly what you meant, even though you yourself havent yet.

    The plumpfish IS solable. Just because you fail to do so, doesnt mean others cant. Besides, even if you cant manage to kill it alone, SO WHAT? Its exactly the same as complaining about not being able to solo your own FB or quest boss. You ask for help, and you get things done. Its called 'cooperative gameplay' and it makes the game alot more interesting. The game should have more of it, not make everything solable. PWI already fails big time for letting the venomancers do nearly everything solo. Dont try to **** over the few decent mobs we got in game, 1 of which being mr plumpy. He's not even that hard.


    You know you have issues when you need to keep trying to convince yourself of something.

    it's amazing how everytime you open your mouth you prove you're an idiot. I never once said my char fails. In fact my char rocks. And I never complain about not being able to solo fb's cos I can. You're right plumpfish are not that hard, I could wipe em put in 3-4 hits. IF the game was fair. Normal mobs should be solable by chars of the same lvl or 2 below. It's the bosses that should require squads. Dont **** on Venos they rule, you're just jealous cos you don't have a pet.

    And F**k cooperative gameplay. To quote Tarja Turunen "I walk alone"
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  • Sadie_Doll - Heavens Tear
    Sadie_Doll - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lol. Swoop, since you're clearly mentally challenged, i wont even bother argueing. You fail in reading comprehension. Whats worse is that you make it sound like nobody understood what you were trying to say, yet all you said so far is "My char fails, therefore i demmand change. Please make it easier for me so i can go from lv1~100 with zero challenges". You dont need to repeat that. Everyone here knows exactly what you meant, even though you yourself havent yet.

    The plumpfish IS solable. Just because you fail to do so, doesnt mean others cant. Besides, even if you cant manage to kill it alone, SO WHAT? Its exactly the same as complaining about not being able to solo your own FB or quest boss. You ask for help, and you get things done. Its called 'cooperative gameplay' and it makes the game alot more interesting. The game should have more of it, not make everything solable. PWI already fails big time for letting the venomancers do nearly everything solo. Dont try to **** over the few decent mobs we got in game, 1 of which being mr plumpy. He's not even that hard.


    You know you have issues when you need to keep trying to convince yourself of something.

    You say "I'm not going to bother argueing" yet here you are, argueing. Seems to me like you're the mentally challanged one here. Not Swoopy b:laugh
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  • Sin_Doll - Heavens Tear
    Sin_Doll - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    You say "I'm not going to bother argueing" yet here you are, argueing. Seems to me like you're the mentally challanged one here. Not Swoopy b:laugh

    b:chuckle Maybe he'd understand better if we got Suey or Dottie to tie him down and bitchslap him. Just because we know how much he loves Venos. He wont be able to do anything but lie there and get beaten, but it would still be a fair fight. Right? b:laugh
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  • Drazo - Dreamweaver
    Drazo - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,187 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    The EXP reward you get from that plumpfish quest at the level it's given: About 2 - 3%.

    The amount of EXP you lose from dying at that level: About 2 - 3%.

    Actually, I think it could be less. But even if you die just once, the reward you'll get will only cover up that you lost so you'll be in the same place as when you began. Even for the SP and rep (which doesn't get reduced), it's still debatable wherever it's worth it or not.

    It would be nice for a bit more rewards for such quests, that are more difficult than the usual.
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  • Abi_Crane - Heavens Tear
    Abi_Crane - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    They should add more mobs with tough skills like plumpfish in game, not remove. You want a pansie game, go play 'barbie in dreamlands'.

    is that what you play then? while listening to "Baby one more time" on your hello kitty radio? b:shutup
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2009
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