/sigh

As with any class, I think we need a little more information about your build ^^

What types of weapons do you use, how are your stats placed, do you prefer to tank or just DD?

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hel-eaven.

DO IT.

YOU DO IT. Newb b:bye

BelleFemme - Harshlands wrote: »

So no one ever told me... heaven or hell ?

Hell. Bad girls FTW!b:laugh

More phys def?! If u go Sage Aura of golden bell wll give u 90% phys def, Hell will give u 75% so decide which is more.Sage Axe and Hammer mastery will raise ur weapon attack with 90%, Hell will give u 1% crit. It depends on u... I will chose sage

I am going hell. The effects from skills i find to be more useful then heavens chances of saving chi.

I use Axe main/ Fist secondary. (Lately I use fists more though..sigh.)

Filet - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hell gives 75% phys def, and another extra 75% phys def boost for 15 sec. Yeah sage mastery is better, and sage highland cleave is better, but that's about it. I'd go hell

hell is better if you want to be annoying as ****! roar has 5 second cooldown instead of 6 and never misses so you can spam alot more against a large amount of people and always get everything in range stunned. demon spark + fists = max speed attack so you can take aggro if a boss every gets on your squishies or your barb sucks at aggro holding and your bored or something (i do alot of the second option ^_^). Filet is right about the sage highland cleave im sad to say though... it gives you alot of crit while demon only gives you a small chance to increase attack rate b:sad BUT if you get heaven's flame sage version sucks (increase fire damage >.>) while demon version gives you 9 seconds of amp damage instead of 6 (b:dirty ohhhh mama) sages think OH YEAH i get better survivability with my spark and i get lots of chi! *gets ganked by wiz* no chi or HP left for you poor sage BM b:sad our alter marrow magic + phys buff can keep you a non squishy at all times in PvP (although it costs alot of MP but you should have an MP charm and we change those like every month if used alot anyway vs HP charm which is gone every 3 days if you grind every now and then >.>) so go sage if you feel like your lacking in chi or you want to actually have a use for your spark to keep you alive in PvP or TW. go demon if you want to be a prick in TW and **** everyone off as you go around stunning noobs all smushed together. and if you still cant decide go look on ecatombs or on lydura's guide and warmachine's guide on the front page.b:cute GL

RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary wrote: »

In general demon favors...attack speed, crit rate, better stunning, more defense for a short time if you wanna spend tons of mana to do it, additional moves that stun/moves that add aoe effects to them, 9 second heavens flame, myriad with stun chance...pretty nice pvp stuff. Demon is less efficient than sage, but if your willing to spam skills more often, drink down more chi pots, waste tons of mana....the bonuses are very powerful.

Sage favors more long term defense, as well as longer term effects, and pve combat...the marrows are great for pve, sage skills deal more damage....farstrike and aeolin in particular, sage has many chi gaining/saving moves (the chi gain skill is so nice imo), then of course there is the nice mastery effect. Sage is in general much more efficient than demon.

Considering you enjoy your pking I would definitely suggest demon.

ty, u just hlp'd prove y demon is better lol, and to anyone at 90+ that doesn't have an mp charms for a bm when pvping in the first place should leave the game. also, faster attack speed = faster chi gain, so in pve (as u say sage is good for) demon doesn't need chi pots for sparks, just cyclone kick and let the numbers fly, and watch the chi go up ^^

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

Your analysis is not true for Sword BM's. b:surrender Heaven is better for them in PvP

Since she is axe though, it holds true b:shutup

Usually most bms go multi-path by 89.