Seals: WHat seals actually work on Boss's

__Cherry__ - Dreamweaver
__Cherry__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 15 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Cleric
I'm wondering what seals work on boss in the areas of
World
FB
TT (1-2. 1-3. 2-1 with special consideration)

other than that I have all of them unlocked at lvl 1 & am wondering which one to max out first.

Thank you cuties
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  • Eremedy - Dreamweaver
    Eremedy - Dreamweaver Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    In TTs the Elemental and Dimensional Seal are VERY effective! Especially when they are maxed.

    How I usually use them in between heals. Lets say the tank is 3rd in the squad list and I'm healing him with IH. Then for a sec I switch to the boss (with the assist attack shortcut which I have placed under nr 5), quickly cast both seals on the boss and then quickly switch back to the tank (Ctrl + 3 (as he is 3rd in list) and continue healing :)
    Mostly it is possible to do it each time the seal wears off, just depends on which boss you are fighting at and if there is another cleric - for some you just might have not time to use it.

    However, Elemental Seal is only useful, if there is a wizard in the party or a venomancer that uses magic on the boss.

    They will love it!

    As far as I know, these two should work on anything! Any boss, any TT-boss, World-Boss, FB-Boss... They reduce the defence of the mob and the attacks of the attackers will get notably greater!

    Chromatic Seal (maxed or not, idk, I have it at level 3 - it is sooo expensive) is good for PvP.
    As for the fourth one (don't even recall the name) I'm not sure - Silence Seal? Something like that - should be useful on PvP as well. Haven't tested these on bosses, but I don't think they'd save much anyway.
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  • XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver
    XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I agree with Elemental...but Dimensional? How, aside from using light/heavy armor or VERY good shards would this be useful?

    Curious, since I'm Arcane myself, with most of my efforts going into increasing HP over Phys Def. b:puzzled
  • ShadowOfLife - Dreamweaver
    ShadowOfLife - Dreamweaver Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I agree with Elemental...but Dimensional? How, aside from using light/heavy armor or VERY good shards would this be useful?

    Curious, since I'm Arcane myself, with most of my efforts going into increasing HP over Phys Def. b:puzzled

    Eremedy is refering to using the seals on bosses, therefore your not getting hit (unless it has aoe) thus it does not matter what equips you have on? Your obviously not going to use them if your being hit by a mob.

    The reason they are useful is that you are essentially causing the DDs in your group to do more damage.
  • XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver
    XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I know I'm still a rookie Cleric...but even I'm not THAT much of an idiot. =_=

    I was referring to this...
    Manipulate one's energies to form the Seal of Dimensions. Reduces your own
    physical defense by 12% of equipment value to reduce enemy's
    physical defense by 12% of equipment value. Lasts 11 seconds.

    Read...the reductions on BOTH parties, the target and the casting Cleric, are based on the physical defense values generated by the CASTER'S EQUIPMENT.

    What was asking was...even with a maxed Dimensional Seal, where you'd take 30% of that value out of your target, how is that of any help when one is wearing Arcane and has little physical defense to base that number off of?

    Especially in comparison to Veno or Barb skills that drop Physical Defense? b:surrender
  • Miasora - Lost City
    Miasora - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm wondering what seals work on boss in the areas of
    World
    FB
    TT (1-2. 1-3. 2-1 with special consideration)

    other than that I have all of them unlocked at lvl 1 & am wondering which one to max out first.

    Thank you cuties

    Seals?

    1) World/ PvE
    use the appropriated/ correct seals, depend on the current mobs you kill.

    --> Use Elemental Seal to attack any melee/ archer (physical) mobs.
    physical mobs do physical attack and has low magic def, so it's best to make his magic def even lower and keep attacking him with cyclone or thunder. anyway even it's also low your own magic def, it doesnt matter, since he only deal physical damage.

    --> Use Dimensional Seal to attack magic mobs.
    it's just the opposite of above, lower they're phys def even more and attack them with razor feather and plume shoots.


    2) FB/ TT
    --> Silent Seal and Chromatic Seal are USELESS against boss... they're resistance to this!
    so, also use Elemental/ Dimensional Seal (depends on boss type/ attack) here as well.
    you can also use it varies depends on your squad... either Elemental to help barb, bm, archer or pet's attack... or Dimensional to help veno and wiz. and DON'T worry about your own def... as long your not tanking the boss.


    3) PvP
    --> Chromatic Seal FTW!!!
    if you're into PvP... try to max this skill.
    on level 10, you can sleep your target for about 33.6 sec... that's very long!
    you can heal yourself, de-buff, spark, cast plume shell or even run away in that time

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  • Pr___johnny - Sanctuary
    Pr___johnny - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Miasora - Lost City wrote: »
    Seals?

    1) World/ PvE
    use the appropriated/ correct seals, depend on the current mobs you kill.

    --> Use Elemental Seal to attack any melee/ archer (physical) mobs.
    physical mobs do physical attack and has low magic def, so it's best to make his magic def even lower and keep attacking him with cyclone or thunder. anyway even it's also low your own magic def, it doesnt matter, since he only deal physical damage.

    --> Use Dimensional Seal to attack magic mobs.
    it's just the opposite of above, lower they're phys def even more and attack them with razor feather and plume shoots.


    2) FB/ TT
    --> Silent Seal and Chromatic Seal are USELESS against boss... they're resistance to this!
    so, also use Elemental/ Dimensional Seal (depends on boss type/ attack) here as well.
    you can also use it varies depends on your squad... either Elemental to help barb, bm, archer or pet's attack... or Dimensional to help veno and wiz. and DON'T worry about your own def... as long your not tanking the boss.


    3) PvP
    --> Chromatic Seal FTW!!!
    if you're into PvP... try to max this skill.
    on level 10, you can sleep your target for about 33.6 sec... that's very long!
    you can heal yourself, de-buff, spark, cast plume shell or even run away in that time

    ^.^

    PVP : Go demon and u can use dimensional seal in pvp too !!! cos it has no damage reduction on u !!!! this is the real FTW
  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Pr___johnny - Sanctuary wrote: »
    PVP : Go demon and u can use dimensional seal in pvp too !!! cos it has no damage reduction on u !!!! this is the real FTW

    Wrong. Demon Dimensional Seal has damage reduction.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    You are both talking about Silent Seal.
    And yes, demon version does not cut your attack by 50%
    b:dirty
  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    LOL
    ...ok, Silent Seal... true... I thought he's talking about the reduction that Dimensional Seal causes. b:beatupb:surrender
  • Meryel - Lost City
    Meryel - Lost City Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    As stated earlier in this thread, Fb & TT-bosses are affected by Elemental Seal and Dimensional Seal.

    What I normally do is cast a few IHs on the tank, debuff the boss, land a few hits on the boss and cast a few IHs on the tank again. Then the same loop goes on until the boss dies.
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  • __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver
    __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    next question:

    Can any seal stack like IH?
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    next question:

    Can any seal stack like IH?

    I am unsure what you mean by that....
    But, if you cast lets say Elemental Seal, and recast it again, it will last the full length of the last recast.

    But if you mean that you want to stack yours and other classes debuffs, it wont work, same type of debuff just overwrites each other.
    b:dirty
  • Sangodoc - Dreamweaver
    Sangodoc - Dreamweaver Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Assuming this counts, the genie debuff/curse skill "Extreme Poison" specifically says that it can stack with Heaven's Flame (lvl 59 Blademaster skill). Both skills cause target to take more damage from attacks.
  • __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver
    __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    again. Venos have armour break down spell, can it take with with our Deminsonal seal as well as Genie skills.
    If so the the total out come could pass 50% of a boss's defense. Thus saving us MP.
    I'm akinda suprized to have not seen this question asked before, but its asked now.
    Well that you all for your answers and please don't PK me

    laterz cuties
  • Miasora - Lost City
    Miasora - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    as Nelae said...

    same type of seals/ de-buffs from different classes/ casters, at the same target, just gonna OVERWRITE each other...

    so, yeah... you can't stack de-buff like Ironheart... but you can combine it with genie skills ^.^
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Especially in comparison to Veno or Barb skills that drop Physical Defense? b:surrender

    Not tried it against the barb debuff, Nana - but in my experience partnering with our lovely venos, a maxed ironwood does seem to be more effective. The only time I can really see using ours is if the veno is spam healing her pet and cant afford an ironwood cast.

    Depending on the tank, I often forgoe the usage of the magical defense debuff at bosses soley because I've partnered with one too many suicidal wizzies. With a good tank or a considerate magic DD, I'll toss it out as often as possible. If the tank is having trouble holding aggro I don't even consider it.
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  • __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver
    __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I think its time to close this one
  • ExELFine - Heavens Tear
    ExELFine - Heavens Tear Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I think its time to close this one

    b:chuckle

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